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tranny flush

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by handwerk, Feb 3, 2023.

  1. Feb 3, 2023 at 3:34 AM
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    handwerk

    handwerk [OP] New Member

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    I have a 2005 DC 4x4 with 150,XXX I have had it a year and doubt the previous owner has done anything with regards to transmission/fluid. Is it a good idea flush the system and put new fluid in at this mileage?
     
  2. Feb 3, 2023 at 4:20 AM
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    Drain and fill only, no flush.
     
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  3. Feb 3, 2023 at 5:30 AM
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    Flush is fine as long as it's not a pressurized flush where a shop is aggressively pumping fluid through. A handless person could count on their fingers how many times a person has come here saying, "I flushed my transmission at XYZ miles and then it died!" The tranny flushing urban legend/old wives tale exists for two reasons: People with serious transmission problems use flushing as a "fix", and people flushing transmissions use tools that push fluid too forceful/aggressive and break something.

    Toyota originally said the '05-'06 Tundra sealed transmission had "lifelong" fluid. Now they're saying change fluid every 80k or something? (it's either 60k/80k/100k, I forget). You'll be fine. Either have a dealer do the process, or do it yourself after watching the ample videos on the topic, some I linked below. Or drain and flush if you want to be simple. Don't bother changing the filter, it's not a traditional filter.

    Sealed drain/fill (no dipstick, 2005-2006 Tundra, 2005-2007 Sequoia, IIRC)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej_6BZpK3gg

    Sealed flush (no dipstick, 2005-2006 Tundra, 2005-2007 Sequoia, IIRC):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx5dU3UVcRs

    Non-sealed flush (w/dipstick, 2000-2004):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RumPXivBlk8
     
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  4. Feb 3, 2023 at 8:03 AM
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    I’ve flushed my 05 Sequoia tranny regularly. 270k and going strong.

    Just gave my Tundra a flush last month. Will do so again in 30k.
     
  5. Feb 3, 2023 at 9:12 AM
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    To add to what Shifty said:

    I suggest querying your local dealer with open ended questions as to how they would do it.

    One of my local dealers will only drain and refill.
    The other has a proper process to let the transmission pump do the cycling to pump out the old stuff while new stuff comes in.

    I paid that dealer to do it. Not worth the mess or smell or risk IMHO.
     
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  6. Feb 3, 2023 at 10:40 AM
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    I would do a an ATF filter change and pan cleanup. If the pan is free of clutch material and metal flakes, you can proceed with flush or drain/refill as you see fit. Otherwise, don’t do a flush. I do a flush every 60-70K and replace the ATF filter every other flush.
     
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  7. Feb 3, 2023 at 1:36 PM
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    shifty`

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    Please inform us why you say to change the filter in the '05-'06 Tundra. I'm curious to understand the logic when it's a piece of metal, with no cloth or similar disposable element.
     
  8. Feb 3, 2023 at 7:53 PM
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    I see conflicting opinions about the transmission filter. But it’s not like an oil filter so why change it??
     
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    I changed the tranny filter on a '98 4runner with 230k original miles. Responsiveness got better after that.
     
  10. Feb 5, 2023 at 10:35 AM
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    I question your sincerity …. The OP is the second owner of a truck with 150K miles with no noted history of previous tran maintenance. If this were my truck, I would not hesitate to replace the filter, cleaning out the pan and taking a good look for metallic contamination and clutch material in the process. The filter is a fine wire mesh and it can clog with clutch material and other crud if the vehicle was not previously taken care of properly. And I didn’t say to change it, I said this is what I would do.
     
  11. Feb 5, 2023 at 10:55 AM
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    I agree with that perspective @Chuy! it makes sense. You don’t know what’s been done so you want to start fresh with proper maintenance.
     
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    I would agree, but metal filters, fine mesh or otherwise, don't load up or clog the way a cloth or similar non-metallic filter does.

    The fact that Toyota doesn't - at least not that I could find for my later model 1st gen - have a maintenance indication for checking/changing the transmission filter, that tells me all I need to know, and with no internet speculation. If it had 300k+ hard towing miles, I'd say hell yes.

    Likewise, if this were any other truck, like any of myriad of GM trucks I've had with a 4lx0e transmission using paper/cloth based filters, I'd say "hell yeah, change it". But it's not. Some here on the 1st gen forum are 500k-600k miles on the original transmission w/no filter change. What you're saying doesn't jibe with that and I think flies in the face of Toyota's maintenance schedule.

    Of course, if someone can find something showing Toyota indicates this is a thing 1st Gen owners should be doing, I'll apologize and eat my words.

    I think if most commenting on this actually saw what the filter looks like, and how fluid passes through it, it may be a bit more clear why I'm saying what I'm saying.
     
  13. Mar 27, 2024 at 2:01 PM
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    got a dealer doing my tomorrow :D (Flush)
     
  14. Mar 27, 2024 at 4:25 PM
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    Not a tundra and not even a toyota, but what’s specified for a 2008 honda odyssey is a “3x3 drain”...
    -Drive around and get the tranny fluid hot.
    -Drain the oil pan (which holds about 3 quarts).
    -Add three new quarts of oil.
    -drive around for about 5 minutes.
    -Drain the oil in the pan again.
    -Repeat for a total of 3 times, or 4 if you’re OCD.

    By doing that it gets most of the oil out of the torque converter. It’s pretty darn quick and easy. Especially with two people. One person to drain and refill, and a second person to take the vehicle for a short spin. While one person is working, it frees up the other person to waste time on their phone scrolling around on their favorite forum.
     
  15. Mar 27, 2024 at 5:13 PM
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    We need to return to transmissions with dipsticks and torque converters with drain plugs.
     
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    Yeah I've heard of Ford recommending this as well. Seems like a good option to me over a flush if you're concerned that the fluid is very bad. Then from there you can start doing one drain and fill on regular intervals.
     
  17. Mar 29, 2024 at 8:53 AM
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    I’ve been doing that exact procedure on my mom’s 2008 odyssey about every 30k (she bought the van brand new).
     
  18. Mar 29, 2024 at 9:49 PM
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    Been a long time since I've seen a torque converter with a drain plug
     

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