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Trailer brake controller

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by Ted4311, Jul 21, 2017.

  1. Jul 21, 2017 at 1:35 PM
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    Ted4311

    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    So I bought a controller and panel from a fellow tundras member. Went to install, not see any connector that fits... I found a couple of connectors electrical taped up... Only one that will reach it doesnt work, Do I have to buy a harness? Worse case I'll sell the package deal

    2014 tundra sr5 4x4 5.7

    Hopefully I can get it to work
     
  2. Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM
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    I believe the '14's harness is on the left side. The '15's and newer are on the right side.
     
  3. Jul 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM
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    The plug should be up by the foot brake. You may need to buy a pigtail, they are cheap.
     
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  4. Jul 21, 2017 at 1:43 PM
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    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    Ok I'll check there. Any other tips greatly appreciated
     
  5. Jul 21, 2017 at 1:47 PM
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  6. Jul 21, 2017 at 2:55 PM
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    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    The back of the controller doesn't look like this... Probably gonna need help guys

    20170721_175031.jpg
     
  7. Jul 21, 2017 at 3:25 PM
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    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    Screw it... Put the word out help me make my money back. Sell it to break even
     
  8. Jul 21, 2017 at 5:30 PM
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    Ted, You need to purchase the pigtail as described above. Once purchased it takes about 15 seconds to hook up and 5 minutes to locate and attach brake controller and it's bracket. Don't give up yet
     
  9. Jul 21, 2017 at 5:57 PM
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    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    I can't find it for the OEM man... I've searched... Anyone find one? Or do I have to go to toyota?
     
  10. Jul 21, 2017 at 5:58 PM
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    Ted4311 [OP] Don't Sweat The Small Stuff

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    I posted that biznitch man... Someone help me find the pigtail and I'll make it happen. I couldn't find it dude... Makes me mad because I want it
     
  11. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:03 PM
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    Is it an OEM Toyota brake controller or an after market (Tekonsha or Draw Tight)?
     
  12. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:07 PM
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    It's the OEM. I seriously can't find a damn wire harness
     
  13. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:14 PM
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    If you really want to keep it OEM you'll probably have to go to a junk yard and see if you can yank a part or wait to see if someone on the forum can scrounge one up for you. Your question's only been up for a day and not everyone here visits daily. I know several Toyota parts guys and service guys frequent the forum and are loaded with info and can get you nearly anything you need. If you don't mind after market, go to Etrailer.com and they'll hook you up with anything you want. I personally picked up a mid range Tekonsha controller for my 26ft trailer. It set me back $200 for everything, harness included. The thing works like a champ!
     
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  14. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:24 PM
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    Time will tell.... Either gonna find a harness or sell the kit (one stop shop for 2015+ TUNDO's who need the controller)
     
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  15. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:25 PM
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    Sean266 knows everyone on the planet Tundra.......he can definitely point you in the right direction.
     
  16. Jul 21, 2017 at 6:26 PM
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  17. Jul 24, 2017 at 6:41 AM
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    I have burnt my self out trying to find a way to connect the factory setup i have... Can anyone point me in a direction to buy a pigtail that will make this work. Sucks I should have did my homework before dropping money on this controller...
     
  18. Jul 25, 2017 at 6:15 PM
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    Hey Sean266, can you point Ted in the right direction here?????
     
  19. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:16 PM
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    The factory controller will not work on a 2014 no matter what you do. If you want to install a brake controller and make it look factory, buy the Tekonsha P3, the wire harness and our P3 brake controller mounting kit. You can find the mounting kit on our website at www.esptruck.com.
     
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  20. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:24 PM
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    Yup^^^^^^

    Sell it, it sucks but you shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
     
  21. Aug 29, 2017 at 7:15 AM
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    Trying to sell it :thumbsup: live and learn, hopefully I make my money back...
     
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  22. Aug 29, 2017 at 7:18 AM
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    Yes Sir! I hope so, good luck with your sale!
     
  23. Sep 20, 2017 at 3:45 AM
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    Does anyone have a pic. of the TekonshaP. With esp's mount kit installed?.
     
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    Thanks for the pic. I'll contact you.
     
  26. Oct 7, 2017 at 3:22 PM
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    Update. I got the brake controller software fix and am just back from towing a 25' Airstream 300 miles. Brakes are good. Our tech. at the trailer dealership said that manual gain was the way to go and started me at 5.5 setting. At 5.5 the brakes stopped and felt good, no pushing. I progressively dialed it up to 9.5 and honestly felt zero difference on highway or city. Good news is that the brake controller is good. If I reach down and clamp the ears together I definately get alot of brake from the trailer....not enough to skid the tires but alot more. I'm happy. This is good enough
     
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  27. Oct 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM
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    I have a P3 with the right connector and ESP controller mount kit that I’m not going to use, since I upgraded to a 17’ CM. Let me know if you’re interested in it.
     
  28. Nov 9, 2017 at 12:14 PM
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    2016 with factory brake controller <<
    *The etrailer link below is what you need + the Tekonsha.

    Well...update. The software flash really is just ok. I have a Tekonsha P3 1/2 way installed and for life of me can not find the alternate plug?

    FWIIW I *believe* that the incorrect harness adapter is being referenced.

    This is the adapter that looks like it is a direct adapter for the plug you unhook from the factory brake controller eg you simply plug into the factory harness that you JUST unplugged from the factory brake controller and done. Am I correct?

    https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Tekonsha/3017-P.html

    Also:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu7_fnJD4TI
     
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  29. Nov 14, 2017 at 2:49 PM
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    Just installed the CORRECT wiring harness for 2016 Tundra (with factory brake controller) and it was a 2 min. job.
    Headed out tomorrow for a test and tune, I'm expecting good things.
    Any tips for tuning the P3?
     
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  30. Nov 15, 2017 at 11:46 AM
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    Last and final update ;)
    The Tekonsha P3 is alot better, for my situation, than the 2016 factory brake controller even with the factory software upgrade.
    The P3 brakes stronger when it needs to and modulates as in the factory brake controller barely modulates if at all. Mind you I love the Japanese and everything they do seems to be done better than it needs to be done so hey the Tekonsha is icing on a cake the way I see it.
    Easy install...once you get the right parts...my bad.
    FWIIW Setting up the Tekonsha for my elect. brake 25' travel trailer ~ 5500 lbs was a matter of choosing factory recommended default settings and blue or pink screen.
     

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