Toyota Tundra 22

Can't see it clearly, but is it just CV separated? If there's no damage done to CV, just clean, grease and reassemble it back using a new CV boot.

 

I wouldn't bother removing the leveling kit unless you really want to. If you didn't see my other post, I've run a cheap 2" leveling spacer up front for about 10k miles while I wait on my suspension lift. I've also wheeled my truck quite a bit (though I'm careful to know the limitations of wheeling with a spacer lift). I wouldn't blame the spacer. If you like it, leave it. Get a new axle slapped in. I've dropped in new front axles quite a few times.

If you have to pay for it out of pocket:
If it's expensive, it'll be because the truck is so new and the axles aren't readily available yet. Usually, once parts start being produced by the aftermarket then the overall price competition brings things down somewhat. Front axles themselves, generally, aren't too too expensive unless you tore something else up. Labor might be the pricy part with a Toyota dealership. You might also have to wait a bit on parts.

^^ This is your answer ^^

 

This is why I think he should be prepared to pay for it. I'm not sure warranty covers blatant user error that goes against proper usage outlined in the owners' manual.

@Altoyota I don't think it's a good idea to attempt to deceive the dealership by omission of the facts. You messed up, and that's fine. Personally, I'd own up to exactly what I did, and I would be prepared to pay for it if necessary.

I think probably every person in this thread has at least once in their lives forgotten that 4wd was engaged and chirped their tires on the pavement without damaging anything. I have done so, in the past. Makes me wonder if OP drove for a very long time on pavement in 4wd, and the final straw was backing into a parking spot at full lock.

 

so you were backing into this spot and it broke?

if so, there is 100% no need to be in 4wd from what I see in the photo, a car wouldn't get stuck there.

sorry if Im missing something.

Im not so sure I would try and cover up the facts to get them to pay for it, just pay it and learn from it. it has to be pretty damn slippery to use 4wd in a part time system.

good luck!

 

What did the part time CV axle say to his boss, when he wanted him to go full time?

 

Is this where it happened? Wheels should skid on dirt

 

Thats dry dirt right off the pavement. lol

 

The lift should be fine just don’t use your 4x4 on dry ground when turning sharply and forcing it!

 

Torsional overload.

Either stick slip or a hard turn ( wheel lock and ps pump begging for mercy with bypass hissing)... combined with added stress from lift...

You need to check or replace the other axle while you are at it.

 

I didn't know that I had it in 4x4. The first time I owned a 4x4.

 

those conditions are no where near enough slip for a part time system, especially with good tires

 

shit happens man, sometimes lessons get expensive, we have all had them at one time or another.

make sure you learn how to use and shift a part time 4wd system and you'll have smooth sailing from now on.

if you feel any binding at all, IMMEDIATELY stop, straighten out and take out of 4wd, do not try to make the truck power through it.

 

We live and learn. I picked my truck up from service recently and as I turned from the dealership onto the street the front end was binding and I thought WTF? The service department had put my truck in 4X4 and gave it back to me that way and I didn't notice.

 

Ok, the Dealer said that the leveling kit cause the problem, and will take about two weeks to get the Parts. Can I drive my truck back home with out one axle.? The axle is off the truck now

 

I am taking back to the place that performed the lifting

 

It happens. I have done that. Was in 4WD going into a wet property. Decided mud was too deep, so backed up onto the asphalt road while turning. Truck started bucking and complaining. Fortunately nothing broke, but that's when I learned not to do that again.

 

at this point being new to trucks and 4x4s, etc and having this kinda problem, I would advise just going back to stock and move on whether it caused it or not. this won't be cheap and the lift guys are going to say we didn't cause it and arent going to pay and you'll be chasing your tail in a circle.

it will ride and perform much better with the stock set-up anyways

good luck man, not fun.

 

Dealer is of course blaming the lift. Lift installer will blame OEM, when really this is 100% user error. I'd plan on being 100% out of pocket on this, and if you get any help from one party or another call it a major win.

 

I would say it may not be 100% user error though, depending on what was installed and how it was installed there could be extra load on the drivetrain with the lift. who knows how much, but it could be enough that if it was stock maybe it barks at him a lot but doesn't snap.

 

Given his admitted inexperience, it could be completely bound up and he continues applying throttle, wouldn't matter if it was lifted or stock. It's hard to know for sure, and unfortunately we just won't know because of his inexperience.

 

ya, that was my point, I don't think we can say its 100% user error, the lift may have contributed, but we don't know.

it didn't help, thats for sure

 

I’d be very surprised if they cared at all. They’ll tell you to go back to Toyota. You might as well just pay out of pocket as a lesson like others have said.

 

Zero surprise that the dealership blamed this on the aftermarket part. If dealerships could blame a faulty tailgate or a bad radio on a spacer lift...believe me, they would.

The dealership would always rather have you pay full price for parts & labor instead of performing warranty work at the reduced Toyota rates. They make no money on warranty work. They profit from full price. Nuff said.

The $hit part of this is they know they've got you between a rock & a hard place and there's basically nothing you can do.

 

I get the feeling that you suspect it has more to do with the leveling kit and less to do with binding while on pavement in 4WD.

This is from being in 4WD. It doesn't mean that there wasn't some defect in the shaft or joint that contributed, but bottom line is that you cannot do what you were doing and expect the drive train to last a long time.

Keep your leveling kit, if you like it. Use 4WD only when the road surface is loose enough to allow slippage.

 

Since you have to pay to fix anyway, just leave the lift and don’t do the same thing again. You’ll be fine and youll be happy with the truck the way you want it.

 

That sucks, happens to the best of us. I was 17 and bought my first car, 2003 Jeep Liberty Renegade for $6,000. It was snowing outside and I decided to try out the 4x4. Snapped it in the parking garage before I even hit the snow lol. Live and learn. Good times, that was 15 years ago, but I still remember it to this day since no one ever taught me. Sucks that it happened on your 60k truck. And as others have said, your lift was not the cause. 100% user error, but we don't judge.

Friendly Tips:
Don't engage 4x4 unless one of the wheels can slip.
If you're driving faster than 30 mph, you probably don't need 4wd.
That binding feeling you felt when backing up/turning was a warning to stop what you were doing lol.

 

USER ERROR… It was not the shop who installed the leveling kits fault and it was not Toyotas fault but as said before toyota will automatically blame the leveling kit. Backing up while the wheel is turned in 4x4 is the number 1 cause of broken axles on any machine on anything from truck to 4 wheelers.

 

@X42069 never had a 4x4 truck, and didn’t know that the 4x4 was active Now that this happens I need to be clear not to do that again.

 

I will be removing the leveling kit and doing it the right way. Now I may be lifting at 4” with a new suspension. The dealer quote was $3500 to fix it. I rather pay another 3k with a new suspension and have the warranty with the store that will be doing the job