Toyota not as good as they were?

This part of what you say is certainly very true. I would suggest that anyone interested in how Toyota is structured and what they do to maintain their corporate legacy read “Lean Thinking” by James Womack and Daniel Jones. The Toyota model is studied and copied by many successful corporations and it’s not dependent on any set of engineers.

 

My alternator in my POS Buick only lasted 5 years! And that was my smallest issue. I traded it in for my Tundra which I love and I was going to buy a Silverado or Sierra.........I'm so happy I didn't.

 

Are you sure you're not Elk Hunter in disguise?

 

Actually the OP didn’t say he had any problems with any of his (if you believe him) Toyotas. He seems to be saying the design of the newest gen Tundra would require more labor to replace the alternator (if needed). But I’m just doing my best to decipher...whatever that was.

 

I do agree that Toyota has some minor issues with a few of their products. But, when compared to their competitors, they are the benchmark!! I am not making it up. Just look around on the various consumer reporting websites, as well as, Federal Government Trasportation Safety websites and you will see for yourself.

It’s in my opinion that because all of these auto manufacturers are now utilizing the universal parts manufacturers for many of their standard parts, like airbags, alternators, and so on, to keep their costs down, so that they can be competitive. That often times, these parts fail due to them being made overseas in places like China where they do not have any quality standards. And, or their quality standards are subpar, if they even do have any quality standards to begin with.

I have bought brand new luxury vehicles such as Mercedes, BMWs, and Audi and have experienced even much more quality and reliability issues than that of Toyota. Those high end auto manufacturers all claim that their products costs more because they us better quality and more expensive parts. But, their failure rates are higher than even Toyota. When there were major problems with Takata airbags, we found out that almost ever auto maker were impacted. And, even though, the vehicle may be a Ford, Toyota, or Mercedes, they all suffered from the part’s failure. I wouldn’t say that’s a Toyota or Ford, or BMW problem, but parts manufacturers’ problems.

Now, there are definitely some auto manufacturers that are constantly churning out crap after crap. I don’t call any names, but you all can figure out those brands that I am referring to. lol. They are the manufacturers that have very poor engineering designs and overall subpar quality standards.

I know that my post is very lengthy, and I apologize for that. I am not being paid by Toyota or getting any other type of kickbacks from them. But, what I do know is that they make some damn good shit. And this past March first, their shot saved my wife’s life after she were rear ended in her 2016 Toyota Sequoia, by a hit and run Hummer H2. And left for dead!! Her Sequoia withstood the impact of a 70+ mile an hour Hummer H2. She is alive and well and her today because of that. Now, on the other hand, I hate them damn Toyotas when I were on active duty fighting insurgents in The Afghanistan mountains. Them damn Toyotas would always out run our military vehicles and would never die. Even after I put several rounds from my 50 cal in their engines. Lol.

 

Most (if not all) new vehicles are almost overly complex and/or crowded. It's one thing I really like about the Tundra, I can see most of the engine bay quite easily for visual checks. Go check out the new HD Diesel, at least the V8 Ford and GM's, those engine bays are so dam crowded and high up it's nearly impossible to do any work without taking out 5 hoses. Hell I almost needed a step ladder just to check the oil in a Ford 6.7, luckily the tow hooks worked in place of carrying around a step ladder for minor maintenance.

 

Google a 2006 4.8 BMW X5 alternator replacement. Damn thing is water cooled and sits in an enclosure that makes it a nightmare to get out and forces the draining & filling oftheh radiator. (I learned the hard way)

 

Looks like another troll.

 

This is a joke, right???

 

Haha kinda funny that you mention that ... (I'm 6'1" btw) ...

 

Whatever you and Elk Hunter are smoking, I want some.

 

I remember when my uncles odometer rotated back to all zero's. I was a youngen, but to older folks it was a pretty big deal. None of them had ever really seen a good reliable vehical with that high of milage.

The odometer went from 99,999k and then back to 00,000.

Kinda makes you wonder... Why didnt the manufacturer add one more reel to the odometer. It basically implies a possible million miles.

 

I currently have a 2016 Tundra Platinum and my fiance has a 2014 4Runner SR5 Premium, you can tell a difference in quality between the 4runner (made in Japan) and my Tundra. IMO, the 4Runner feels more solid

My previous Tundra's (2010, 2011, and 2014) have all had minor issues which were fixed under warranty.

I'd say 10 years from an alternator is pretty good, the fact that Toyota made it hard to service doesn't take away from how reliable the truck is.

 

Porsche was using aluminum deck lids in the early 70s. Pain in the ass then (easily bent), no better today when you read about fords body issues.

IMO my 06 tundra was a better built, higher overall quality vehicle than my 17.

 

This was the truck that really sold me on Toyota quality. Bought this 1993 for $600 off a buddy, it had been his mentally ill wife's truck, she painted it with flat black house paint, it was pretty damn beat up, had been driven in the ditch, hood held on with a bungee cord.





Yet it ran great, shifted great, drove straight down the road, the crash hadn't bent the frame or anything. No rust on it was the main thing that sold me. Needed a clutch, that was also $600. Did the front brakes, new calipers and discs for $400, fixed the front end up for less than $50, drove it from 150k to 170k miles in the 5 years I owned it with ZERO issues. Great running truck, if the A/C had worked, I'd have driven it a lot more. Sold it for $1400.

 

My wife bought a new 1974 toyota corona when she got out of high school. she drove it till 1994 20 years,with just normal maintenance, then she gave it to her niece when she graduated high school, her niece wrecked it within 1 week
this is my first toyota purchase, am hoping to have a long and pleasant relationship with it.

 

My 2018 uses way more gas than my Honda Civic. Just sayin

 

All I can say is I like my 02’ now even more than when I bought it. Its paid for, never let me down, made me lots of money with a few little repairs and some regular maintenance. The other beautiful thing is the life expectancy still left on her. Sitting at 157k now with another 150k left?