Third Generation Tundra … Yes or No

If a dealer certifies a used one, what is the difference then getting an extended warranty?

 

How many of the 2023-2024 models do you think have reached 100K? I doubt if many have--those are the years that people are saying do not have engine problems. The vehicles don't have the miles on them yet to make an intelligent decision on their durability.

 

Mine is a 2024, and although my engine hasn’t blown yet, I’ve had a front spoiler motor go bad and currently undergoing a rear differential replacement. Not even at 5K miles yet.

 

There was one more with 90k+. Granted it is a small percentage, but so are the ones that have engine issues. It is literally a crap shoot. Life is too short to worry about it. If you don't want to have that worry, don't buy one.
This is a topic that is getting beaten to death. I feel I have seen more 3rd gens on the road than I have 2 and 2.5gens at this point. Everyone is trying to justify either direction when it really doesn't matter.
But THis Si ThE iNteERnet AnD i MuST TeLL PeOple mY OpiNIon oN wHat to Do wiTH tHey'Re mOniEs/LiFe. If it's not affecting you, move on.

 

You should see the Cybertruck review fights in the comment sections on Youtube reviews. This is nothing compared.

Then again I think folks that drop $100k+ on a toy are nuts but it is their money.

Also is it mandatory you start a youtube channel when you buy a Cybertruck? It seems every one of them sold to online "influencers" that have to show it off.

 

IMHO elon the gatekeeper's cyber pos is proof that mouth breathers rule the media/air waves. It should come with a free cdc brainwashed one world govt tatoo.

 

I thought he worked for the FAA? He was really trying to bust Boyd Aviation for a long while. Couldn't understand that ball bearings are the future of aviation.

 

Yes. Avoid 2022, or like anything avoid the first model year. But so far so good with my '23.

 

If these truck had only a V6 they would need 4.11 gears to run with traffic or turn 7500 rpms to make enough HP to be competitive with all others. But, it is a twin turbo some are Hybrid which puts it even or better than most trucks in its class. When I can get in someone else truck which is one of big three. We turn anywhere from 1700-4200 rpm just to pull a SXS on a trailer 85 miles. It gets old quick when you are use to your Tundra never getting over 2000 rpms whole trip and spend most of its time hovering around 1700 rpm which is nice.

 

I for one HATE the 3rd gen design. I kept my 2013 and got another brand new 2021.

But if you like the design and the new engine, go for it, is your money right?

I drove one for over a week and it does drive nice but so does the 2.5 gen. Just looks ugly and feels cheap inside, but that's just me.

At the end of the day is your money, your decisions, regardless of what we all say here.

And some people take it really seriously @HLR_NM

 

Lmfao yeah because of twin turbos. Now boost a 5.7 and theres no comp

 

Honestly its not worth the money esp when all the "upgrades" aint much better than the 2.5gen. Hell the cab space in the CM is more in the 2.5 than the turd gen. People are weird and want the new gadgets where I could care less. Im with you and if I were to sell mine I would shop for another 2.5 than go 3rd. Not unless toyota pulls their head out of their ass and put an updated v8 back in

 

typical naysayers, if you don’t like it fine, but people aren’t “weird” for liking the new offering

stock, it outperforms my 2016 platinum crewmax truck hauling and towing handily , also rides better in every situation while having more payload and towing, and while I’m not a mpg guy , I don’t complain about the 3-6 better

and to revamp a new v8 , I still don’t think they would get a peak at 2,400 with a NA Gasser, plus it’s more of a epa thing, the emissions is too much , it is what it is

 

I have a 2022 and have had zero problems. Don't be such a hater

 

If it's what you like and want, a whole hearted YES. Truck is very similar to DogRunner2's above, a loaded out Limited TRDOR, sticker and $OTD very similar.
I couldn't care less about the tech, or the lack of a V8. Power only because it's turbo'ed? Daily driving you're rarely, if ever, in boost and it still feels plenty strong.
Want to get on it or tow? You'll never miss the V8. If Toyota could have built a newer V8 to meet mandated emissions regs, don't you think they would have?
Obviously everyone's opinions are different, especially about something subjective like styling. Either you like it or you don't.
I know I'm only 4K miles in, but absolutely zero negative to report. You all will be the second to know when (or if) something goes wrong.
Like I started this anti-rant with, it's all about what you like and want.

 

Doesn’t a trd sc 5.7 has less torque and higher torque peak than the gen 3 iforce max oem stock?

or are you talking about slapping non Toyota turbos on a 5.7, not following here

 

The other issue IF you're comparing anything new is risk tolerance.
Anything new is a risk, there's no way around it.
I know I'd much rather take a risk on Toyota than any of the big 3 right now.

 

Everything is subject to personal preference except longevity.

The 2nd gen can do the same thing the 3rd gen can (ok maybe realistically tow 1k lbs less, but they both run out of payload well before getting to their tow limits) for hundreds of thousands of miles without fuss. This, at the very least, remains to be seen with the 3rd gen.

THAT is why I drive a Toyota. I could not care less about tech, ride comfort, steering feel, apparent ease of low end torque, or the appearance of the interior in a truck I bought for utility.

Let me buy the truck and use it as a truck, and LEAVE ME ALONE. I have never been back to the dealer for one single thing. I’m only at 63k miles in 3.5 years, but I expect this for a very long time.

 

Hence the longevity advantage…

 

that wasn’t the point of that post, but nice spin

 

There is nothing to say the rest of us won’t have the same experience ,especially to 63k miles so far, and it’s not given with the older ones either

mine had problems, yours hasn’t so far , but it can happen

right about where your at is when my fuel pump and ecu took a shit and had to have it ramped and towed out of my garage , shit happens , yes even to gen 2 /2.5 tundras

my ram never left me without a start , so you can say for my specific thing, my 2013 ram was a more reliable truck than my 2016 tundra , nobody would think that

 

I bought (somewhat cautiously I might add) my 22 Limited (Army Green) 4X4 OR Package (NH)/Para Roof/JBL - with 17K miles on it- in perfect condition- the VIN# was an August build, TX in 2022. My truck- bought new in my area- is MSRP 70K- I was not going to pay that. I'm a Toyota fan- and its frustrating that many 3rd Gen trucks have had issues - however my truck has been a great truck- no turbo lag, no rattles, no crazy wind noise other than what I would expect from a truck in >30MPH winds, the power is fantastic and fun to drive, the suspension is solid- no excessive roll. I like the new interior of the truck and the 14" screen is pretty cool. The 3rd Gen truck is no comparison to the 2nd Gen build- I went through a hail storm in my 2007 tundra that would have melted my 22 Tundra. Just my 2 cents. What do you have to spend (and what make and model in this class) to buy a solid- perfect truck?

 

That is funny, I rely on my engine. You rely on two turbos.

Enjoy your truck I’m sure you like it and that’s all that matters. I’m sure it way better than any big 3 junk. lol.

 

I missed the sc…

Yes, the trd sc makes less peak torque and later than the hybrid, but the hybrid exhausts its contribution pretty quickly and weighs like 500lb more.

Your anecdotes with your 2nd gen and your Ram are a far cry from the general trend with both trucks.

 

yes , that was my point , general doesn’t matter, what matters is what happens with our individual situations , and that’s not guaranteed eitherway , just was a general comment to reflect that it’s not a given if you get a gen 3 it will break (far from it), conversely, if you get a gen 2.5 it won’t ever have a problem ( although I agree they are good trucks , I had 2!!)

 

Why are we comparing a modified 2nd Gen with a stock 3rd Gen iForceMax?

For starters what are we comparing here? 0-60 times?

From what I have been able to see they’re very very close between a 3rd Gen iForceMax and a similarly equipped 2nd Gen Crew Cab with a TRD supercharger. Both are basically in the mid 5 second range. Throw a tuner at the 3rd Gen and it will probably out accelerate a TRD supercharger equipped 2nd Gen with no other modifications. The iForceMax hybrid component may not be able to sustain electric assist for miles and miles but it will have enough time to see the truck hit top speed at which point it doesn’t matter because the engine is more than capable of sustained top speed all on its own.

Guess what? They’re still both slow as hell compared to a modern sports car or sport sedan.

Maybe towing performance is what you want to compare? Sorry but please explain to me a realistic scenario where you will need constant full throttle pulling a trailer at highway speeds in the United States with either truck pulling a trailer that is within the tow rating and payload rating of either truck. Go ahead, try to come up with something. It doesn’t exist. Even the regular non hybrid iForce TTV6 has shown it has more to give towing up long steep grades at altitude.

If your scenario involves a trailer so heavy that you need 500HP to maintain highway speeds, then you are wildly beyond the capability of the axles, suspension, frame, and brakes on any 1/2 ton. GET A BIGGER TRUCK.

Frankly this comparison of supercharged 2nd Gen’s vs stock 3rd Gen’s is kind of retarded. If ultimate pulling power is what you’re after and you are in a 1/2 ton you’re stupid, buy an HD diesel. Further if acceleration and drag racing is your goal and you’re using a truck for that you’re also stupid, buy a decent muscle car and mod that instead.

 

Agreed completely. My point was that the 3rd gen’s drivetrain may pull harder and feel more effortless, but the other side of that coin is the longevity of the 2nd gen. I think my point holds stock vs stock, but the post I was quoting was comparing an sc 5.7 and the hybrid. I had missed the sc part.

0-60 does not factor into my truck buying decision making process. I buy for utility over a specific timeframe.

 

I’d have to disagree with this. Not everyone goes to a 3rd gen because they want the newest gadgets. Sometimes needs change in a vehicle and you need to go with something bigger. My case was business needs and a growing family. My Tacoma just didn’t cut it anymore and as much as I love the 3rd Gen Tacoma that was not without its problems on launch just like the 3rd Gen tundra. Every new platform will have its growing pains it’s just the way it is and easier to use customers to R&D a product and fix issues. There are even documented cases of the 3rd Gen Tacoma motor failing as well. Go check that forum and you will find plenty of motors that have failed. I have no issues with the 2nd gen but I couldn’t get a crewmax and long bed (which is what I needed) so had to move up to the 3rd gen. But I will say the tech/ power delivery/ no annoying gear hunting/ and overall experience has been night and day compared to my Tacoma. Also, unfortunately we are at a time where V8 are going away for smaller turbo charged engines due to government regulations and epa requirements. This is just the world we live in now and Toyota will perfect this new platform just like the have perfected the other platforms in the past

 

Actually it used to be! Thanks for playing