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Suspension

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by aramirez73, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. Oct 11, 2016 at 7:26 PM
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    aramirez73

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    Hey all I know some of us praising the toytec boss kit...but I wanted to find out some more info but has anyone seen some youtube posts that the shocks are breaking at the bottom of the shock??? One vid has a man has the coil overs on ground he says that he came off hiway ramp n heard a snap he welded one the other had snapped too... another vid shows coil overs with total chaos upper n lower arms that he hears a snap n he states n he never took truck off road both broke at bottom of shocks anyone have this problem??? I mean I wana get kit cause the guys on here who have it talk highly of it but I don't want this problem to occur to me...chime in
     
  2. Oct 11, 2016 at 7:54 PM
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    Law323

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  3. Oct 11, 2016 at 7:55 PM
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    Just talked to @csuviper about this exact thing the other day. He definitely put my mind at ease. I'd say go for it!
     
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  4. Oct 11, 2016 at 7:57 PM
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    I think that was on a Tacoma?
    the guy jumped his truck 5 ft in the air without the bump stops Total Chaos requires to be installed. Total Chaos diagnosed the failure related to not installing required bump stops...
     
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  5. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:00 PM
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    Posted from the duplicate thread. Too lazy to merge.
     
  6. Oct 11, 2016 at 8:01 PM
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    Thanks. I had a brain fart and couldn't figure out why my post wasn't coming up even after refreshing the page when I came back to it. :confused::confused::confused:
    Durrrr
     
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  7. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:31 PM
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    I have had my Toytec boss on for 6 months now. Sean I know has had his on for 1 year 7 months (looked at his build thread). He is the one that convinced me to get the boss because he liked it so much. Well I'm very glad that I did.

    There are a few bad reviews of breaks or leaks of people complaining that couldn't get a refund based on the circumstance. What you have to remember is that they sell thousands of Boss kits per month. Most that aren't active on a forum won't post up that they are happy with it. That is a huge percentage of happy people.

    You can't tell me that every single Icon, King, Fox, Bilstein shock is 100% made perfect and never breaks or leaks. There is always going to be a percentage of bad shocks in the manufacturing process. Maintenence and engineering is there to minimize that as much as possible. Human error, wearing tools, imperfections in materials, etc lead to manufacturing defects. Good customer service is where it's at to get replacemts quick for the slim few that are defective.
     
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  8. Oct 11, 2016 at 9:47 PM
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    I have had experience with a lot of lifts over the years. My Tacoma had a 6" Fabtec lift. Horribly stiff. Loved the lift but def stiff. Swapped out the rear 3" block and aal with a 6" lift height alcan leaf springs. Much better but had a blown rear shock. Swapped to king resi shocks for a short time before I sold the truck, improved the rear even more.

    On the Tundra I purchased the truck with a 2" level in coil spacer. All stock except that. Rode fine but bumps were a little harsher. Must have been the fact that it compresses the coils for the lift so you have less compression out of the spring before it gets stiffer.

    The second lift I had was the Toytec Ultimate Bilstein lift kit. This kit has Bilstein 5100 front and reat shocks. The front has Toytec machined parts that fit to the front shock to make it fully adjustable between 0" lift and 3" lift. I thought I was at 3" lift but after getting the boss and re comparing to stock I was really only at 2.5" lift. That means less preload on the shocks than at 3". I was happy with them but also wishing I had better. It was a little stiff and was harsh over really rough spots and still had hard hits with pot holes.

    I made the decision to finally swap to the Boss kit after Sean did and talked me into it. Heard lots of good reviews from searching and thought it was awesome to have a shock custom built for the Tundra. By custom it is a shock made by a top US manufacturer that has custom valving based on Toytec R&D. Built to Toytec spec. Fitted with eibach coils (top coil mfgr) and Toytec machined top cap.
    I was immediately impresssed by the Boss shocks. Much better ride than the spacer and bilsteins. Smoother over rough road sections. Much better rebound. Off-road they are much less stiff than the others. Roll over the top of a big rock and come down fast to a soft landing. Very happy wth them.
     
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  9. Oct 11, 2016 at 10:45 PM
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    Alright fellas thanks for putting my mind at ease appreciate it
     
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  10. Oct 14, 2016 at 11:29 AM
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    csuviper, how big of a difference is there between the ultimate, and the boss systems? For the casual off roading(hunting, fishing) is it worth the extra cash?
     
  11. Oct 14, 2016 at 12:01 PM
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  12. Oct 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM
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    The price of the ultimate bilstein and boss are basically the same price i thought. I would highly recommend the boss over the bilsteins. Like i said i had the ultimate bilsteins first and upgraded to the boss. Smoother ride. Better at absorbing the inefficiencies in the road. Worth a little more in my opinion.
     
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