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Stupid Locking TRD Lugs

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by mbn225, Feb 15, 2020.

  1. Feb 15, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    I have an 08 with rock Warrior wheels and it has 4 spline lug nuts and one locking lug nut per wheel. I was removing the wheels to install spidertrax spacers and the key in the stupid locking socket broke while I was doing the third wheel. I HATE locking lugs. Toyota wants $18 PER LUG for the spline replacements which I’m definitely not paying. Can anyone suggest a decent aftermarket complete set that doesn’t include locks?

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  2. Feb 15, 2020 at 2:04 PM
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    Gorilla are good

    Cheap Ebay ones crack and peel,rust and look horrible. I know that from experience
     
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    That does suck. I haven’t seen a good set of wheel locks that don’t have some sort of design weakness. The gorilla wrench sides kept splitting and this was on a passenger car wheels. Ended up buying several of the keys so I had plenty of spares. :facepalm: Good luck op
     
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    Well damn, those were what I was looking at from the other posters. But it’s still much cheaper than replacing this crazy stock set.
     
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    This is what I had. 3D166E08-6BA1-4784-B335-F84384D9C9B7.jpg



    but these sockets look more durable.

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    I would have to have the first style since I have the rock Warrior wheels.
     
  9. Feb 16, 2020 at 12:05 PM
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    Try calling McGard. I believe they are the ones who make the locking lugs.

    On a side note, anybody know of replacement spline lugs for the rock warrior wheels in black?

    Wondering if these will fit:

    dynofit 14mmx1.5 Wheel Lug Nuts, 24x Black M14x1.5 Lug Nut, Conical/Cone Bulge Seat, Closed End Lug Nuts with 2 Socket Keys for Chevy GMC Ford Cadillac Lincoln SAAB Saturn 6 Lug Aftermarket Wheel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078RCLQNF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_d4zsEb5DBG1GX
     
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    That would be perfect
     
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    Youre screwed bro. Mcguard makes them and won’t know what specific key you need unless you registered with them when you got you locking lugs. There is no universal key. What broke is you’re key. This is a common problem. All it takes is some young idiot at your tire shop to use this key with a torque wrench and voila! Broken.

    Also mcguard wants like over 100 dollars for the key and that’s IF you know what model you need.

    I went through this whole thing. God forbid you get a flat tire because that tire ain’t going nowhere. I bought removers from harbor freight and tried every trick in the book. I finally had the aces at a local shop have at it and they broke 3 sockets getting the locker off.

    Never again wheel locks for me

    PS nobody wants your rock warrior wheels that bad!
     
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    I had this happen too. I took it to the Toyota dealer and they had a key and removed it. Try talking to your dealer.
     
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    I meant impact wrench
     
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    Like everyone else has suggest go with Gorilla. I have a set of Gorilla on my Tundra.
    I had them on my Mazda.
     
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    No man this is a trd set of lug nuts. Toyota has all keys for this crap, I have an appt for Friday for them to take them off. And as for “nobody wants your rock Warrior wheels” I agree, there’s absolutely no reason to run locks but this is how I bought the truck.
     
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    Have locks for the $1600 worth of tires on my truck, not so much the wheels.
    The wheels fit Toyota, the tires can fit any truck..

    I remember at a dealer tire rotation a couple years ago they forgot to give me my key back.
    I noticed it when I got home and went back up there.
    They had a box full of them, found the correct one, and gave it to me.

    When I bought my TRD set of lug nuts, I ordered an extra key and spline socket from McGard.
    TOYOTA PTR27-60110 TRD

    http://www.mcgard.com/customer-service/order-a-replacement-part-online-now/
     
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    yes TRD wheel locks made by Mc Guard. There are many key variations otherwise thieves would just buy the kit for the keys!! Your toyota dealer may have this an they may not. Mine did not... Also that doesn't explain why it broke. If its over torqued a simple replacement key wont be enough!! Good luck man, I'm not arguing but talking from experience. Had this happen over fourth of july while installing my wheel spacers. Got 3 on and key busted on the last one. Truck out of commission for a week.
     
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    Also unless you're taking them off for good you'll need a new key @1lowlife posted the link to MCGuard and they are pricey!! they also want to know exactly what model your running so they can match your key. Big PITA if you dont have the original paperwork. Good Luck!!
     
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    I wrote about this in a separate thread but I can't find it... The tire guys were able to pull off the non over torqued "locking" lugs with a 12 point socket in about 8 seconds.
    Any thief worth their salt will not even glance twice at your locking lugs. He will just remove them! Only person my locking lugs ever stopped was me and a few of my tire guys so far. Food for thought...
     
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    This happens a lot. Tire shops hammer the locks on and off with the rattle guns.
    The dealership will have a lock set you can verify and buy. Lexus dealerships work as well. Once you find the lock for your vehicle, write that number down under your hood or owners manual.

    To eliminate this from happening, I remove and install my lock set on the Tundra and Lexus. Two different tire shops broke: Lexus, Tundra, and Tacoma wheel locks. What becomes a problem is when you actually need the lock (flat). This is when I started bringing a torque wrench and tools for the tire shop parking lot.
     
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    Yes they are definitely coming off for good and I am thinking you have a lazy dealer if they are refusing to source a key. My local dealer said if it's trd they will take care of it. Wouldn't be the end of the world either way as I'd just weld a nut onto it to remove it.
    I can understand if you're not doing work yourself and it's the mechanic/dealers hassle but that's not my case. Also if I were driving a Cadillac with 26's I'd be concerned as I've seen countless times where garbage steals garbage but I personally have never seen a set of 35 inch a/t's stolen. Just not my experience.
     
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    Good to hear you're leaving them off. My tires were a thousand dollars and I would gladly pay it to know I won't be stuck on the side of the road or the wilderness somewhere with my family because of a sheared tire lock. Hoping the dealer experience goes smoothly. Keep us posted!
     
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    This looks like the route I'm going to go. Is the gorilla 26143BC the correct set?
     
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    I live in Dallas, if you were driving a Cadillac with 26's, you'd fit right in.
    Can't tell you how many vehicles I've seen on blocks with stolen wheels and tires.

    I've seen a rash of spare tires stolen from vehicles in my employers's parking lot years ago.
    I bought a spare tire lock for my 2014, call me paranoid...

    I've heard of several vehicles stolen from the parking lot in my 33 years I've worked here...

    In the 1990s I had the radio stolen from my 1994 Chevy pickup.
    2 weeks later they stole the replacement HU.

    So far after 23 years of Toyota ownership, nothing stolen..

    I agree, garbage steals garbage is correct.

    Hope you get it all worked out and find the right Gorillas.....
    But the 26143BC are 2" long.
    Are your current lugs that long?

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    https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...MIv7T49Mff5wIVBJSzCh3EYgH1EAAYASAAEgIH5PD_BwE
     
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    They’re probably around 1.5-1.75 inches long and gorilla has a set closer to that but for 1, I think the black longer black lugs will scent nicely on the dark grey wheels and 2, it’ll be more purchase for the spline socket to ensure a little more peace of mind.
     
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    Please keep us posted on what you end up with..
    Be safe...
     
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    Well Toyota removed the locking lugs for me so I ended up with the gorilla set in black as I mentioned before and they did not disappoint. Great quality in the lug nuts and socket as well. I can’t recommend them enough. Sorry for the lackluster pic it was getting dark and the wheels are dirty to start with.

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