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Still a rough ride after new shocks and new tires...

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by sahzoom, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:14 PM
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    I have a 2011 Tundra (2WD) and replaced the shocks about 10,000 miles ago (right at 100K).

    The OEM shocks were utterly destroyed, like took a good minute rebound when I removed them. I put Bilstein 5100s on all 4 corners and the ride was a definitely better (obviously, compared to NO shocks). However as time went on, I still noticed the ride was still pretty harsh... composed, but just like a rock. Nothing like what the truck used to ride like 10 years ago. Next culprit - tires

    My tires were pretty old too, so I got new rubber about 5,000 miles after (roughly .5" taller tire, and slightly wider than previous ones), and it definitely helped with not feeling all the tiny cracks, but still super stiff ride...

    From everything I've read, the Bilsteins are supposed to be pretty good, but man my truck just rides like a brick. I've tried everything from having weight in the bed, no weight, higher psi in the tires, lower, normal, etc...

    I am at my witt's end with this problem - anybody have any idea what it could be as to why the truck is riding so damn rough? I live in an area where the road's are some of the worst (Hawaii) and would like to not have my insides re-arranged on my daily commute...
     
  2. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:30 PM
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    Welcome.

    5100's are good shocks but maybe intended or designed more for offroad use. The stock shocks are fairly soft for more comfortable ride.

    What size rims/wheels do you have? 22 inch rims will have less side wall than 18 inch wheels. More side wall usually means a softer ride.
     
  3. Sep 14, 2021 at 6:49 PM
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    Warranty your Bilsteins if they aren't too old. I had a full set put on, rode like shit. Complained to 4x4 shop, they ended up warrantee replacing all 4, rode good after that. Oh, I also changed the coils to soften it up more.
     
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  4. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:06 PM
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    Have you looked at the springs, thinking they could have lost tension and you're riding on helper, so with any weight in back or just weak you'll bounce on that large helper. I don't know what your setup is but my 16 has the normal ride quality springs that will compress under load and ride on the large helper that can be very rough. I turned my helpers over on Dodge diesel a few years ago when pulling a heavy 5th wheel and added air bags. It rode great with trailer and much better MTY, of course dropped the air in bags when MTY. You can also add heavy duty shock springs that will get you off overloads, as well.
     
  5. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:13 PM
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    What tires? What psi? Pics? Do you have 18" rims or 20"?.
     
  6. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:22 PM
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    I have 20" Wheels, so not as much as an 18, but I have had the 20s for a while now, and it rode better before when I had even smaller tires back then
     
  7. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:33 PM
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    So was it replacing the shocks that made the difference or the new springs? And is it really possible for a whole set to be that bad?

    Also, what springs did you get, just OEM or something softer?
     
  8. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:35 PM
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    Well, my problem isn't really the back bouncing or anything like that - just the whole thing (mainly the front) rides like a rock. Even putting some weight in the bed didn't do anything. My back end is pretty settled and I never had a problem with that.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    20" Stock Alloys with 34.6" tires. Obviously not the most sidewall, but it's still got a good chunk. Right now, I am running about 32 PSI. I have tried everything from going up to 40-45 PSI or down to like 28-30 PSI. It only makes minor differences - the problem is definitely the suspension.

    I will be able to get some pictures when I get home later.
     
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  10. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:38 PM
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    I'd go with @Gravy 's advice and go with softer coils.
     
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  11. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:39 PM
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    No need for pics. You explained quite well.
     
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  12. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:40 PM
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    Is there a particular brand to go with? Like how do I know what to get (what fits) and is softer than stock? I tried looking that up before but couldn't be confident anything would fit or not...
     
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  13. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:43 PM
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    Call @Toytec Lifts and ask for Hugo. Seriously. Talk to Hugo.Explain to him what your issue is. He will set you straight. No up sell. Do it! A modest forum discount too. Do it......20210912_114508.jpg
    Hugo with my grandson last Sunday at the Off Grid Expo. Hugo is great people...
     
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  14. Sep 14, 2021 at 7:58 PM
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    Long story on my suspension heh, I'll condense it somewhat. But yeah, I ended up with 4 bad 5100s (not sure if it was Bilstein or maybe the 4x4 shop, they've had a hard time keeping good employees during all this cov bs, but the owners always make good with me so I didn't press the issue). In between getting the new 5100s I had them put some aftermarket coils on to try to soften it up, unforetunately it was a "I know this can be done, do it" thing and I didn't pay attention to which maker/model coils they put on. Then after my truck was riding good again (when I bought it, it was on 20s and rode like a caddy) I wanted to change the lift height adjustment on my 5100s. Took it in, and the coil perch retaining ring broke on one of the 5100s, and no one could get one, even called Bilstein and they said maybe October. Waited a week with my truck blocking one of their lift bays lol, finally lost patience and told them to put some OME nitrochargers and 2612 coils on it.

    So, yes, it is possible to get bad 5100s, although I don't think its common.
    I don't know what coils they put on, they look like Eibachs. On the plus note, those coils are sitting in my garage now, if you want to try them, cover the shipping and throw in a 20 for the hassle and they're yours, but they are an unknown, can't guarantee they'll help your situation.

    Just noticed @Black Wolf posted while I was typing, and I agree with him, toytec is awesome. (Also where I got my OME coils, one of the last places in the country that had a set).
     
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  15. Sep 14, 2021 at 8:11 PM
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    Ditto on the OME's. Best shocks and coilovers for the price point hands down. Had them on my 07. What's critical with the OME's is choosing the right coil for the load up front.
     
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  16. Sep 16, 2021 at 1:48 PM
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    Thanks for the recommendation, I will give him a call!
     
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