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Steering wheel shake/vibration on my new 1794 Tundra. Please help.

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by MoreCowbell, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. May 2, 2019 at 10:22 PM
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    realtorblake

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  2. May 3, 2019 at 12:36 AM
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  3. May 6, 2019 at 5:18 AM
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    Update 5/6/19 - After driving my truck over the weekend the shaking steering wheel issue appears to be resolved. Multiple roads and speeds and no more shaking steering wheel. He also adjusted the front caster to positive on both wheels. He also checked the run-out on hubs and rotors,. No defects found. I guess that it took an engineer from Toyota to finally fix my issue. My theory is that the engineer showed up a lot earlier than 5:00 pm (our appointment time) and went ahead and aligned and balanced it after re-calibrating the Hunter. That would explain why my test drive with him could not show a problem. Can't prove it either way but she drives like a different truck now. There is still a jarring whenever I hit a rough bump but the other new 1794 that I drove as a comparison did the same. So, I guess that it's a Tundra thing. I can live with that but a shaking steering wheel is another story. Now I plan on keeping the truck and enjoying it for many years to come. Thanks to all for reading and replying to my posts.
     
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  4. May 6, 2019 at 5:29 AM
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    Congrats on getting that sorted out!
     
  5. May 6, 2019 at 5:46 PM
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  6. May 6, 2019 at 5:51 PM
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    Yes, she’s definitely fixed. I left work today and there is a patch of road where she always, historically, had the issue. Not today. Yay.:bananadance:
     
  7. May 6, 2019 at 6:29 PM
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    Hi,
    My 2018, 1794 does this also, no big deal, but if anyone knows how to stiffen this up a little, I'm all ears.
     
  8. May 6, 2019 at 7:28 PM
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  9. May 6, 2019 at 8:15 PM
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    You to ? :confused:
     
  10. May 6, 2019 at 8:42 PM
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    very glad to hear that you got it worked out OP.

    weird vibrations and chirps/squeaks on pickups, especially brand new, drive me crazy.

    finally figured out that the spare tire on my '19 was the cause of some chirps; co-workers '18 did the same. he never thought to check the spare tire.
     
  11. May 6, 2019 at 11:11 PM
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    And this is how toyota is able to win the least amount of issues reported battle against other brands . Lexus does the same.
    I bet OP issue was closed as “no issue found” .
     
  12. May 7, 2019 at 3:57 PM
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    Read my earlier posts. Yes, I actually had two issues. Steering wheel shake above 50 and a steering wheel jolt whenever I hit a bad bump. I thought that the two were related but apparently they were not. The other 1794 I drove as a comparison did the same so I assume that’s just the way it is. I can live with that. A shaking steering wheel, no.

    BTW, I drove home today and the shake is definitely gone now.
     
  13. May 7, 2019 at 4:00 PM
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    Thanks, me too. That would’ve been the last thing that I would’ve checked too.
     
  14. May 8, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    Same issue with my 19 tundra platinum. Has a shake and shimmy after every bump. Never had this issue with any trucks before this. Driving me insane ............
     
  15. May 8, 2019 at 8:22 AM
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    After the engineer fixed my shimmy/shaking wheel my truck now feels solid at all speeds unless one wheel hits a bad spot. Then my wheel has a left-right or right-let jolt, depending on which wheel hits it first. Not sure why they do this. Design issue? Cheap struts? Would a stabilizer fix this? I Dunno:notsure:. To make myself more clear here, if both wheels hit a deep rut in the road then it's not as bad. Still has a jarring but the steering wheel doesn't move left or right. However, if only one wheel up front hits a bad bump (pothole, deep rut, etc) then it's pretty bad. That's why I told the engineer and the dealership that I suspected a faulty tie rod and /or strut. The engineer checked these out and no fault found. This was documented by him. I can live with the jarring but the shimmy/shake, no way.

    Like I mentioned earlier, I have been driving these same roads for years with a variety of trucks (I trade often) and no truck that I owned during this time frame did this. The piece of junk 2014 F150 4x4 that we utilize at work doesn't do this. But, at least I feel more confident now that an engineer has gone through my truck and he documented everything that he checked. I was just concerned that something was going to give way while cruising, therefore causing me to lose control. BTW, I spend most of my commute each day between 65 - 75 mph. As I stated earlier, they let me drive a brand new 1794 and it had the same jarring as my truck whenever one wheel would hit a bad spot.

    Here is a link that I read while researching my issues:

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/steering-wheel-shake.15331/

    He mentions adding a stabilizer to his truck but his truck is lifted. Mine is 100% stock.
     
  16. May 8, 2019 at 9:41 AM
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    I would go with the "I want a refund" deal with them.

    I wouldn't feel safe in it after all that bullshit.
     
  17. May 8, 2019 at 10:25 AM
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    I tried that at first and I was told "no way" by the dealer. That's when we raised pure He** with Hendrick Corporate, Toyota Corporate, and the local dealership. They knew that I had a solid case against them and they dispatched an engineer to look at my truck in order to prevent a buy back. I warned all three that if the engineer could not fix my shimmying/shaking steering wheel then that would be my next step. But, alas, I really like the truck and didn't want to go through the buyback process with Toyota. That would've taken 3-6 months according to Toyota. I still felt that it could be fixed with the right person performing the work. Plus, if they did buy it back then they would probably stick it right back on the lot for some other sucker to go through the same crap as myself. The shimmy/shake is gone now so I am happy with it.
     
  18. May 8, 2019 at 11:12 AM
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    I vaguely recall reading potential injury alert, bad habit or recommendation to keep fingers away from in between the SW spokes. Not certain if I read it as someones posted thread or owner manual. Only rings a bell b/c some drivers position hands on center of the wheel.
     
  19. May 8, 2019 at 11:33 AM
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    found it.. owners manual

    "Do not grip the steering wheel spokes when driving off-road. A bad bump could jerk the wheel and injure your hands. Keep both hands and espe- cially your thumbs on the outside of the rim."

    Maybe applies to on-road bumps or old city pot holes as well?
     
  20. May 9, 2019 at 6:46 AM
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    Wow. You guys are great and I have learned a lot from you all even before I officially joined up. I figured since the other new 1794 did the same, it is what it is. Now I feel even better since you found this mentioned in the owners manual. BTW, I am now on four days straight with no shaking steering while cruising 50+.
     
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    Any chance you could post what your alignment specs were when the issue was fixed? I got new tires on my 2019 sr5 and after alignment I have the shake, usually between 60-80 mph. I am also wondering what to do first as I bought the tires at Discount Tire and got the alignment done for free at the dealership where I bought the truck.
     
  22. Jun 12, 2019 at 5:37 PM
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    Go back to check your balance. It won’t affect the alignment so if the balance fixes it, you’re good.
     
  23. Jun 13, 2019 at 7:03 AM
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    I will be happy to. I'm at work right now but I will do this as soon as I am able. However, the alignment from the engineer did not fix the wobbling steering wheel because his alignment was almost identical to a local tire shop here. Something else fixed my issue but what it was only God knows. Some of my wheels had a lot of balancing weights on them but after he got a hold of it, they now have very few weights. I do know that he told me that the front caster was raised on both to reduce bump steer at speed.
     
  24. Jun 13, 2019 at 9:06 AM
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    Don’t give up keep contacting Dealer no one truck should have issues especially a new one !!
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    I had a non related issue
    Window master switch caught on fire
    Contacted the The dealer and according to the vin number on my truck it was not under recall issue theN I reached out to the local Toyota representative/emailed back and forward with no solution same response at this point I was very disappointed in how they responded . I would tell every Toyota driver I ran into and everyone at the dealer what was going on ...
    One day I went to the dealer for A different recall and I don’t know if they felt sorry for me or just looking out for me they gave me a new master window. I installed it my self and windows were working again
    Backstory:
    One day I was driving on the highway I started smelling smoke I thought it was barbecue and realize my driver side door was smoking and small flames I am mediately pulled over realize where the issue was coming from so I yanked out the switch ( yes it was toast)and it stopped the electrical short/electrical fire .
    I think there was a recall on them for catching on fire .. Good lord was looking out for me that day ... could of been bad !!!
     
  25. Jun 13, 2019 at 4:28 PM
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    Here ya go.

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  26. Jun 19, 2019 at 8:05 PM
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    I belive you need to balance your wheels using a Hunter GSP700 Road Force Balancing machine. I have a 4Runner and had the same exact issue and went to many shops without any improvement until somebody mentioned the road force banacing method and that solved the problem. Discount Tire have this machine, and other shops too. Tell them that you want a maximum 15 pounds of road force on your wheels. That might solve your problem.

    I don't know about Tundras, but the 4Runner has lug-centric wheels, so the technician had to use a lug-centric adaptor to set the wheel on the balancer. I think this is caled a Haweka adaptor. I've seen this done and the GSP7000 is an amazing machine. Make sure you insist on your requirements and watch the techs balance your wheels. If they are trained, they will know what to do, but this requires more work than the usual spin-balance and they are typically lazy and don't want to put in the effort.

    This machine shows the tech the optimal POSITION of the tire on the wheel, so many times the techs have to mount the tire on the wheel, check the balance, then take the tire off, rotate it according to what the machine tells him, re-mount the tire on the wheel, put it back on the machine, etc. etc. This achieves an almost PERFECT balance when done correctly. Keep in mind, some tires are "bad" and CANNOT be balanced with this method and will have to be replaced. Here, "bad" means the tire has so many imperfections that the tech cannot achieve less than 15 pounds of road force no matter how many times he tries. The machine will tell him that as well. First time I put tires on the tech had to replace 2 tires (they carried it in stock so there was no extra waiting), and the second time 1 tire was bad and needed to be replaced.

    Even if they have to order the tire and you have to come back next day, it's worth it.

    I recently replaced all tires on my 4runner and had to go back and forth with the tech on the minimum road force (he didn't want to do the whole procedure, it was Friday night), etc., and finally i slipped him a $20 bill and he instantly became very motivated and did an excellent job. Took over an hour to balance 4 wheels, and I had to come back the next day to replace a "bad" tire.
     
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