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SR5 Payload shocker

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by kurtwp, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. Aug 22, 2016 at 11:40 AM
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    I was looking at a 2016 SR5 double cab, 4x4, and a 38gal tank. From the Toyota.com site they state the payload around 1500-1600. When I looked at the door jam of the new SR5 the payload stated was 1300. Does that sound correct. To me that is a little low for a truck competing in the 1500/150 class of trucks.

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  2. Aug 22, 2016 at 11:56 AM
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    Welcome Kurt.

    Yep, the payload sucks ass. Damn shame too for such a good towing truck.
     
  3. Aug 22, 2016 at 12:45 PM
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    Is this because of the shortened beds? Too much weight could offset the weight distribution?
     
  4. Aug 22, 2016 at 12:50 PM
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    I would think it has a lot to do with the 38 gallon tank.

    My load rating is 1375 pounds. With the added 12 gallons of fuel, that is around 75 lbs extra @ 6.3 lbs per gallon.
     
  5. Aug 22, 2016 at 4:19 PM
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    Next to the SR5 was a Limited Double cab TRD Off road rated at 1295. I guess the extra weight is from the leather seats and a couple of extra knobs and buttons on the radio.
    I am looking for a new truck as I scrapped my 98 Ram 2500 a couple weeks (August 8, 2016 3:12PM) ago so I finalized my search to two manufactures and Toyota is one of them. You get some nice features in the SR5 without breaking the bank but the payload - man that might be a deal breaker. Was hoping that the SR5 was rated at the 1500 because that would handle all my needs. Time to do some soul searching and determine does 200lbs really matter.
     
  6. Aug 22, 2016 at 4:43 PM
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    I suggest some math to see if the SR5 will work. :D

    You will run out of GVRW long before you run out of GCWR.
     
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    What are you going to use this truck for?
     
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    A few years ago i bought a widebelt sander for my woodshop. Got an awesome deal on it and the guy delivered it to my shop in wichita KS from St. Louis Missouri in his double cab Tundra. The sander weighs 1650 lbs. and he said he did not have any problems and drove nicely. Powermatic WB25 if anyone wants to look it up.
     
  9. Aug 22, 2016 at 9:11 PM
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    That's one big sander.
     
  10. Aug 22, 2016 at 9:16 PM
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    Exactly what I was thinking.
     
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    What am I going to use it for? Towing a mustang once or twice a year. Under 7000lbs with car and trailer. Camping - pulling a TT with a GVWR of 4000lbs and tongue weight of ~ 300.
    Most of the time sitting in the driveway.
     
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    You will be perfectly fine and very happy with the Tundra.

    The jackasses like myself push the limits, we have mixed results, but mostly positive. Get the warranty to 100-120K miles.
     
  14. Aug 23, 2016 at 8:58 AM
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    Any particular reason to get the extended warranty. Can you elaborate on mixed results. Are your mix results about hauling or reliability?

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  15. Aug 23, 2016 at 9:16 AM
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    I would look into AIP pump replacement that can be expensive.

    Recently, I just had the needle bearing go out in my front axle. Now there is an aftermarket bushing, but it costs to put in. I opted to just replace the front axle @2400.00. Cost me 50.00, but if I didn't have the 100k warranty it would have really pissed me off.
     
  16. Aug 23, 2016 at 12:15 PM
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    The extended warranty is a nessary had a timing chain go bad, on my 2015, it just ensures to get those quirks out of the truck, then it will last
     
  17. Aug 23, 2016 at 12:43 PM
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    The trucks come with a 100k mile power train warranty, and Toyota upped the warranty on the AIP to 100k too I believe. Beyond that, I would not pay what the dealer wants for the "platinum" warranty with oil changes. Those are wicked overpriced, and you'll be more than fine with the warranty the truck comes with.
     
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    What did that cost Toyota?

    Forgot about the Cam Tower Leaks too. That is a good repair.
     
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    Our Tundra came with the lifetime limited power-train warranty from the dealer for the original owner as long as we maintain the vehicle as per Toyota's recommendations with all maintenance records. Did not buy an extended warranty.

    Just returned from our first camping trip with the Tundra/travel trailer rig and really like this pickup towing a 4950 pound travel trailer with 450 pound tongue weight. Had two people and 75 pounds of gear in the back seat area with seats folded up. The bed was empty on this trip. We could load an additional 505 pounds of stuff, according to the Tundra 7100 pound GVWR.

    Tundra scale results with two people on-board, full 38 gallon tank, and 50 pounds of stuff:

    [​IMG]
     
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    FYI

    3/36K bumper to bumper, 5/60K mile powertrain. The only way to get the 100k is to pay for it like buying a Certified used (and you pay for it in cost) or purchasing one through private or Toyota Care. I asked Toyota last Friday what it would cost to extend my warranty. They said 2700.00 for another 100K miles.

    The AIP is warrantied up to 150K miles up to a 2010 (some dealers have been covering 2011/12). After that, it is on your dime. Your 2010 is a great year to have when the AIP is concerned.
     
  21. Aug 23, 2016 at 7:32 PM
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    Our Tundra also came with the free lifetime/unlimited mile power-train warranty. The only stipulation with ours is that the maintenance has to be done by a Toyota dealership. All of the new Toyotas at our local dealerships are covered by this warranty (even for the people who lease and then buy them out.) I think the dealerships use this as a marketing tool because they expect most buyers will trade in the vehicles before they need major repairs. Plus, they get the money from the service visits. Either way, I like knowing it's covered for as long as I own the vehicle.

    If my vehicle didn't come with this warranty, I wouldn't have purchased an extended warranty. Yeah, some people will use the warranty and get their money's worth, but for the most part they're a rip off.
     
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    I'm not sold on the free limited lifetime warranty.

    I would have to see some paperwork on that, and showing you didn't get rolled in the finance department.
     
  23. Aug 23, 2016 at 8:16 PM
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    Well I am going to eat some crow here. I found no less than 12 dealers that offer these "free" unlimited drivetrain warranties. Shit, they don't offer that in CO, that is for sure.

    You two guys are living the dream. Never. Sell. Truck. Period.
     
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    Just bought my 13 and it came with 7/100 power train warranty, and 12mo/12k mile bumper to bumper. Included. As in I didn't pay more to purchase separately. Sticker was 33500, I paid 30500.

    Of course the finance guy tried to sell me the platinum toyotacare, bumper to bumper up to 120k, but I declined, it's nowhere near worth the price they wanted. Even you, who seems to disagree with everyone about everything would have agreed it wasn't worth it based on what was included for no extra $...
     
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    Was it a certified Toyota?
     
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    I understand your skepticism, as I would be too, but I have a lot of experience with the vehicle purchasing process. The warranty has nothing to do with the finance department or even the sales price. It's a standard warranty on ALL new vehicles. I LEFT the dealership paying 4-5K under MSRP on a SR5. There were no warranty prices tacked on. It's a marketing tool and it ensures the dealership gets service money from the customers.
     
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    A dealership* gets money from service... You don't have to go to the exact one you bought it from...
     
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    I agree. I plan to keep it for awhile and pass it to my 12 y/o son at some point, but told him the title has to stay in my name. We'll see how that goes.

    Yeah, I shopped around and purchased two new vehicles in COS in 2013 and none of the dealerships around there had a similar program. The finance departments sure tried to sell the warranties there though.
     
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    So, under normal situations because most dealerships do not offer "free lifetime drivetrain warranties", you have what Toyota offers and what is explained in post 20. It is the exception, not the rule. Free is a pretty loose statement if all maintenance has to be performed at the dealer. I have seen what comes out of dealerships. I have a stack of free oil changes if you want them...if that tells you anything. I would also have to see if these lifetime warranties cover at any dealership. That would suck if on vacation and you "think" it is covered.

    Like you, I purchased a used Tundra with 4K miles to get the certified Toyota warranty that extends the factory warranty to 7/100k miles. This has to be a one owner vehicle in great shape to get certified. It also costs the consumer at a minimum 500.00 to get a truck certified. The price is factored into the selling price. I actually have friends that are sales/finance managers. Trust me, you paid for it.

    So I got a 7year/96k mile warranty. Sucks it was used, but you are right. Why buy a new vehicle if you can find a good used one with super low miles and get 40k extra coverage for 500.00 or so vs 2700.00? Hell I think it is a pretty good deal too.

    On a personal note, I just disagree with you and it is easy. You're my new MVP. Guess you should watch who you call a fag and take rope up the ass.
     
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