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SOLVED! New starter...same result...help what am I missing

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Motopilot, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Sep 5, 2020 at 6:13 AM
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    N84434 In the Frozen Tundra

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    Glad to hear its doing better. Put a check in the win column....:thumbsup:
     
  2. Sep 5, 2020 at 5:41 PM
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    I picked that 2.0 up as well... The guy at the parts counter had no idea which one went on this truck, even with the VIN. He said the smaller was for the V6

    Anyway, I have a brand new starter and manifold gaskets. If anyone is in a pinch, PM me or I'll just hold onto it for future use. Located in Claremont CA.
     
  3. Sep 5, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    Supposedly, the 2.0kW is for Cold Spec Vehicles. The 1.4kW is for others. I guess it depends on the package the truck was sold. Everyone thats made the switch so far is impressed. They both fit per the parts confirmations, but one is Heavy Duty and cost less. A win win for anyone that needs it. :yes:
     
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  4. Sep 5, 2020 at 6:19 PM
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    FirstGenVol Allergic to Darkness....

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    Too many
    @Festerw is good people and very smart. He's had several posts that have helped me. Glad you got it figured out.
     
  5. Sep 5, 2020 at 6:45 PM
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    I'm not sure about smart but I've had a lot of piece of shit vehicles with too many problems. :eek:
     
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  6. Sep 16, 2020 at 9:21 AM
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    I picked up a 2002 Tundra and it is having power issues. I'll check terminals. Thansk guys. :)
    I hope that is. Otherwise I got some fun trouble shooting a head of me.
    Truck has a new battery, starter, and alternator. :)
     
  7. Sep 16, 2020 at 11:19 AM
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    bmf4069 Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    Give it a once over and if you don't find it you can start a new thread. Also, you need to post pics of the truck. We like pics. Like, a lot.
     
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  8. Sep 16, 2020 at 7:54 PM
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    I have different cable connections and I did sand/file the connectors but I wonder if I need to replace cables or just splice them to new terminal connectors.
    What do you think?
     
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  9. Sep 16, 2020 at 8:18 PM
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    What power issues you’re having to be exact before so we could provide you with a better diagnosis?
     
  10. Sep 16, 2020 at 8:21 PM
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    Weather permitting I'll be rolling under this truck this weekend.
    Maybe after shooting on Saturday. Dang ammo is expensive and hard to find. Please send all your 9mm ammunition to me. :)
     
  11. Sep 16, 2020 at 8:23 PM
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    Those look like the stock Toyota battery cables/terminals, they still look OK but peel back a little black tape on the cables to be sure the copper strands aren't corroded. Then rinse those terminals with a mixture of baking soda and water to neutralize any existing battery acid, you don't want to see any of the green crud that's shown in the nooks and crannies of your pics. Then make sure it's good and tight on the battery and check that the grounds are also tight on the other ends.

    Oh, and nice first Gen FZ-1, I've got the same one.
     
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    I picked up this truck from my brother-in-law.He wanted to get rid of it because he was having electrical problems for the last couple of months where his truck wouldn't start all the time. Mostly it would.
    He had the battery, alternator, and starter replaced and I was able to drive it to my home and to the AutoZone and they didn't see anything wrong with it but some times it wouldn't start. I used my BlueDriver and it said to replace crankshaft position sensor and I did that and now there is no power in truck. I did put the old sensor back in but still nothing. Not even the dome light would come on even when hooking up jumper cables to battery. I checked all the fuses. I was able to get power in truck if I placed negative jumper cable on truck ground then I was able to start the truck and all seemed to be well. I started it last Saturday and parked it and again no power and I was NOT able to jump it. I sanded/filed terminal connections but nothing. Took battery out to charge. I'll try to mess with it this weekend. Thanks, gene
     
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  13. Sep 16, 2020 at 8:34 PM
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    Thanks Steve. I'll take a look this weekend.
     
  14. Sep 16, 2020 at 8:50 PM
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    Alright alright alright! Now we know, we have something to work with.

    Luckily, your issue is not bigger than connection problem and most likely those clamps you posted their photos.

    Based on what you said, my personal steps would be:

    1. Clean the battery terminals and clamps with household item such as baking soda and warm water or Pepsi/ Coke. (Use a wire brush on battery terminals).

    2. Ensure to tighten the clamps on terminals.

    The reason why I started with those is because you said no dome light until you connect jumping cables which mean you your clamps aren’t making a point of contact with the battery due to this green stuff.

    if you have a connection, as soon as you put those clamps on the terminals the lights such as the dome light would turn on! (The truck won’t start though until you tight them up).
     
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  15. Sep 17, 2020 at 6:03 AM
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    If you have a multimeter, you can test all your grounds/circuits starting at the battery.
     
  16. Sep 17, 2020 at 6:54 AM
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    Randy Morton Life takes its toll, please have exact change.

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    Take all of the connectors apart and clean them with a thick baking soda and water solution, and a wire brush. Then, spray on a chemical battery cleaner. I use CRC battery cleaner. Replacing the connectors that clamp onto the battery posts is also a good idea. Make sure all of the mating surfaces are clean and shiny. Reconnect and tighten everything and see if it'll start. If it does, you're almost good to go. The next step is to protect the nice clean terminals. I use CRC battery protector. If you start a new thread on this, please put the link here so we can find it easily.

     
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  17. Sep 17, 2020 at 7:00 AM
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    This stuff is really good to use. Easy and clean to apply. Can be used in all electrical connections throughout the vehicle. The cleaner others recco’d above is great and highly suggested prior to application of 30-030.

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  18. Sep 17, 2020 at 12:28 PM
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    Amen!
     
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  19. Sep 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM
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    I found this stuff at Walmart for $2.97... turns pink where it finds acid and neutralizes it too.

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  20. Sep 17, 2020 at 2:49 PM
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    I got tired of having terminal corrosion so I've put Marine terminals on all my trucks. Made from solid metal and beefy so you get a good connection. Not expensive either. Just an option if corrosion keeps frustrating you.
     
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  21. Sep 17, 2020 at 6:50 PM
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    Check your ignition switch. Since you have a first gen, this is no more than a ten minute fix. This is exact exact EXACT same thing that happened to my 03, and i bought it in non running shape. Your best bet is to dissasemble the lower dash beneath the steering wheel, then remove the ignition switch from the rear of the ignition cylinder, but don't unplug the wires. Grab your keys and stick them in the slot of the ignition switch, then turn them to the right. Your engine should start.
    Hope that Helps!
    Here's a Beck Arnley Ignition Switch
    https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-989-719-Ignition-Switch-Select/dp/B082P6MJH6/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2D1M28ZHC4A37&dchild=1&keywords=2003+tundra+ignition+switch&qid=1600393755&replacementKeywords=ignition+switch&sprefix=2003+tundra+igniton+%2Caps%2C199&sr=8-3&vehicle=2003-76-1033------------&vehicleName=2003+Toyota+Tundra
    Please Trust me on this! My tundra sat for four months in my yard because of this. I learned this trick from an 98 Ford Escort that my dad had when I was a kid. We took apart the dash, removed ignition switch, stuck a screwdriver in it and turned, koo koo koo BROOM, Voila!
     
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  22. Sep 18, 2020 at 5:16 AM
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    Picked it up yesterday. :thumbsup:
     
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