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SOLVED! New starter...same result...help what am I missing

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Motopilot, Sep 2, 2020.

  1. Sep 3, 2020 at 9:13 AM
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    Randy Morton

    Randy Morton Life takes its toll, please have exact change.

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    11.5 volts should spin the starter. It's sounding more and more like the starter's bad. Did you have it checked when you bought it? I've bought a couple that were dead out of the box and always have the store test it before I leave.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2020 at 9:42 AM
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    E3BE4AE6-5CDD-426E-BE7D-841590D7F03B.jpg E3BE4AE6-5CDD-426E-BE7D-841590D7F03B.jpg Yep intake is black plastic on the 05/06 Tundra.
    Did a battery swap with the same results as before. I’m really worried it’s the wire or connecting clip into the starter. With the heat build up and vibration that occurs on top of the block maybe it’s bout fried? Idk they (connection clip) are not the most robust looking.
    I looked at the battery Leads. Do these look acceptable?64D3AED3-C434-47C9-9A9D-38C7BD7186AD.jpg E3BE4AE6-5CDD-426E-BE7D-841590D7F03B.jpgF83D5081-4F6A-45DC-A3E0-DDDA274E38D4.jpg
     
  3. Sep 3, 2020 at 9:45 AM
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    Time to replace wiring from the battery to the starter. and check the grounds from the battery as well.....The power is there, but the starter isn't getting any.
     
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  4. Sep 3, 2020 at 10:20 AM
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    Some others have had this wire harness problem leading into the Starter. Problem is there is no way to replace outside of butt/cut splicing.

    Couple of questions:

    1) Did your harness get wet during the 3 days install?

    2) Which Starter did you use: OEM Reman’d or aftermarket?

    3) 2.0kW or the 1.4kW?
     
  5. Sep 3, 2020 at 10:25 AM
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    Thats what worries me.
    He mentioned Autozone...
     
  6. Sep 3, 2020 at 10:28 AM
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    I believed I alluded everything to him to do (and to avoid) over in his other thread if IIRC. Hard to remember but I think he said he was dodging Thunderstorms for 3 days doing the work, also.
     
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  7. Sep 3, 2020 at 10:57 AM
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    I'm just wondering what kinda connectors those are. Kinda weird.
     
  8. Sep 3, 2020 at 11:27 AM
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    @Professional Hand Model it never got wet. Was covered with the truck hood and a pop up tent. It never got a drop of water. I used a reman oem starter from the stealership. (Like you suggested) $200. Didn’t feel like ordering and waiting for shipment to save $50. I also got the 2.0kw cold weather starter.
     
  9. Sep 3, 2020 at 11:29 AM
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    @N84434 i haven’t used anything from autozone since pro hand model said to stay away. Well I did use their Blue shop towels.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2020 at 11:31 AM
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  11. Sep 3, 2020 at 11:42 AM
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    Thank you. Well sounds like you have the correct path on parts etc.

    Cables are suspect per @Festerw and @bmf4069. I am just looking at those cable connection pictures now. Didn’t see them earlier. They don’t look proper. Hoping this area is the easy fix for you.
     
  12. Sep 3, 2020 at 11:58 AM
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    Is that mid-cable connector normal, or is it a splice someone put in? I looked online and none of the images show that type of connector.
     
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  13. Sep 3, 2020 at 12:31 PM
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    Definitely a repair end, turns out it's a compression terminal but was installed incorrectly since the cable insulation is at the end of the nut.
    https://ceautoelectricsupply.com/product/compression-style-battery-terminals/

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. Sep 3, 2020 at 12:32 PM
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    Booooo. The aluminum ones are sexy.
     
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  15. Sep 3, 2020 at 12:37 PM
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    Bet his truck will run better once those cables are fixed.
     
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  16. Sep 3, 2020 at 1:50 PM
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    Get rid of these connectors asap.

    That looks like a terrible design.
     
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  17. Sep 3, 2020 at 1:53 PM
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    Got the Duralast gold one...unfortunately they didn’t have a negative one. @Festerw
     
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    They have 2 positive? And just paint one black or order the negative and try stripping the wire back on your current terminal for the time being.
     
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    After a few long arduous days I’m happy to report that it seems to be up and running! As y’all saw and I think @Festerw mentioned and I was thinking the same about that end on the cable being installed incorrectly. They didn’t even trim the rubber back. I honestly thought it was a factory end but I was very wrong. I probably would’ve never taken that terminal apart if you guys hadn’t convinced me it was the problem. Anyway, I installed the duralast gold terminal and it fired right up. Thanks for all the the incredible info You guys are awesome! Thanks again!
     
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    :yes:
     
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    11.5 volts will turn it over , it will possibly crank , but very very slowly if at all. And how anyone can say use 2 positive cables is beyond me and totally backyard,Positive is alot larger and good chance it won't clamp down properly for good contact on terminal. Terminals are different for a reason ,so they shouldn't be swapped, Don't mickey mouse it up , get good ,correct cables so you don't have to keep replacing parts. Slow down with all the info and take your time and it will come together. As far as that connector your showing , the female side looks fried ,and the more you cranked it the spark had to jump farther causing it to burn even more.
     
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    I love happy ending.
     
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    @Motopilot now you get the joy of clicking the 'Thread Tools' button up near the top of the posted messages to 'Edit Title' and update it with SOLVED at the beginning!
     
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  24. Sep 4, 2020 at 12:49 PM
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    @shifty` i didn’t know you could do that but I’m on it!
     
  25. Sep 4, 2020 at 2:55 PM
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    These newer/tighter connections should make all of your electrical components last longer and work more efficiently. Hows that new cold spec starter performing versus your old one when it was still working?
     
  26. Sep 4, 2020 at 6:11 PM
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    Was having a similar problem the last week or so. Turn the key, get a click, no cranking. Would eventually get it crank after a few attempts. I replaced the starter relay, no difference.

    Then by chance, I noticed that if I turn the headlights off and the ac/fan off, it would start first crank each time. Still didn't understand what was happening so I went and picked up an oem starter and manifold gaskets.

    When I opened the hood I started looking closer at the battery and realized the ground connections at the battery terminal were loose and dirty. The ground from the terminal to the fender was actually detached! I cleaned the connections up and securely reattached, problem solved!

    Check those connections!

    (Now, what to do with the new starter..)
     
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    That info is going to make a certain hand model very happy. Good find. ;)
     
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    This may sound a lil silly @Professional Hand Model but I feel like when turn the key and starter engages It’s almost like it slightly torques the truck...it definitely feels way stronger!
     
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  29. Sep 4, 2020 at 9:26 PM
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  30. Sep 5, 2020 at 6:00 AM
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    Nice. Thats how mine feels. Strong like Ox. Its amazing that the OEM cold spec Starter is less $$$ too.
     
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