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Solid ABS Light, Solid Traction Light, Blinking VSC OFF Light

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by Flaktundra, May 24, 2018.

  1. May 24, 2018 at 1:12 AM
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    Flaktundra

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    I recently purchased a 2008 Toyota Tundra 4x4 with a 4.7L and 133k miles. I bought it from private party but paid for an inspection from the Toyota dealership in Anchorage before buying. They gave me the green light besides needing some fluids changed.

    About 10 minutes into driving away with the vehicle I hit the brakes coming off the highway. I got some front end vibration that felt like rotor warp. I also noticed funky lights on the dash. I went back to the dealership to have them diagnose it and sure enough it was rotor warp. I had them replace the rotors and pads, which solved the vibration. When the dealership did the full inspection they did not take the truck to highway speeds so they didnt detect this issue. Ask me how pissed I was to hear that. JK don't

    My concern now is the funky lights. They come up on occasion and usually after driving after at least 10 minutes. More testing to be done. I am getting a Solid ABS light, Solid Traction control Light(swerving tire marks), and a Blinking VSC OFF Light. The manual said contact the dealer but as soon as I shut the vehicle off it went away and they were unable to find anything.

    I also might have noticed what felt like a 2 second loss of power while going down a hill. Maybe Limp mode but I'm not sure. I havent owned the truck long enough to know what is normal.

    I have a hunch and I hope someone here will help confirm this or point me In the right direction. Is it possible that because a front rotor or rotors were warped that an ABS speed sensor was damaged and is throwing the whole computer system out of whack?

    Thanks in Advance!
     
  2. May 24, 2018 at 5:07 AM
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    15whtrd

    15whtrd Mr. Blonde

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    I had something similar happened to my first GEN Sequoia. But my brake pedal would fade to the floor and less I pumped it. No amount of bleeding would make it better. All those lights came on. I would start the truck all the lights would be out, but the first time I hit the brakes all the lights would come back on.

    But I noticed that they would not appear if I pump the brakes each time before coming to a stop. I decided to change the master cylinder and it fixed my problem. When the brakes are bled they should not push the pedal all the way to the floor as it is out of it’s common stroke. I put a 2 x 4 under the brake pedal when doing so now.

    It’s also possible when they opened up the Pistons on the calipers to except new brake pads, that they didn’t crack open the bleeder and just pushed the fluid back into the reservoir. I wonder if this could mess ABS sensor up?

    Just some thoughts thrown your way I’m not sure if this is your problem or not.

    Dealer told me it might be my ABS module or brake booster, but couldn’t tell me for sure even though I paid them to diagnose it. They doubted it would be the master cylinder. I got one from Napa for a decent price. And it’s working like a champ right now.
     
  3. May 24, 2018 at 9:19 AM
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    I just picked up the codes this morning
    P0724
    C1201
    C1249
    C1340
     
  4. May 24, 2018 at 9:31 AM
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    15whtrd Mr. Blonde

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    Yeah mine threw a bunch of codes that were pretty much nonsense. Once I changed a single part they all went away.
     
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  5. May 24, 2018 at 9:39 AM
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    landphil

    landphil I can’t be serious.

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    P0724 and C1249 relate to the brake switch circuit. I’m assuming the brake lights work and you can shift out of park without difficulty? If they do work, make sure the brake lights come on before you are applying any amount of force to the pedal, otherwise the brake pedal swich may need adjustment.
     
  6. May 24, 2018 at 12:10 PM
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    I remember in the vehicle inspection report they noted a bad third brake light bulb. I did get a code for that and maybe I will get extremely lucky and find success by changing that bulb.

    As for now the truck seems to run good and I have no trouble shifting out of park. I did notice that I could not use cruise control while all the flashing was going on. The only "issue" seems to be the blinking dash lights.

    I'll replace the brake light and start looking at wiring harnesses.

    Does anyone have a copy of the dealership repair manual? The really big book with trouble shooting guides, usually at least 500 pages or so.
     
  7. May 24, 2018 at 7:26 PM
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    I found a bare wire spliced into the brake pedal wire harness that connects to an Auto page alarm system.

    I wish I would have started here before cleaning and dielectric greasing every connection related to the ABS system under the truck.

    Anyways I touched that exposed wire to ground and I was able get the dash lights to come on . I am now on the hunt for detailed wiring diagrams. I don't just want to pull the alarm just in case it is wired into the ignition and locks me out .

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  8. May 28, 2018 at 4:52 AM
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  9. May 28, 2018 at 4:58 AM
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    I have the same lights flashing but I put a leveling kit on. The VAC is located under the center console. Today I'm going to place some washers under the back screw and attempt to recalibrated using 2 paper clip and the #4 and #13 pin on the OBD sensor I'll let you know how it goes if it doesn't work I'm taking it to Toyota dealer to recalibrated
     
  10. May 28, 2018 at 5:00 AM
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    RickC NOT a new member

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    If the alarm isn't giving any trouble, I would tape that exposed wire up and call it fixed. Good job finding the issue!
     
  11. Jul 19, 2020 at 12:43 PM
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    I, too have a 2008 Tundra with the same light issues. It seems to come on when the engine compartment is very hot, and not on cooler days when cool air is blowing around the engine, but even that is not a given. Lately, the lights have been coming on anytime I drive the truck. The vehicle runs and operates fine, except I have not tried the cruise (as mentioned above) nor have I tried the 4X4 (the 4hi4lo light is flashing too).
    Several years ago, a family of squirrels took up residence in my engine compartment, and thought the insulation on the wires tasted good, and chewed some of them. That's when I first started seeing warning lights, lots of them. I had that repaired (soldered and insulated) and all was good for a long time. Then, very intermittently, the lights mentioned above started to show up. Then they would go away, only to come back on months later. My research seems to indicate the ABS module is the culprit but I have not had it replaced yet. I don't think it is the harness damage, primarily due to the comments above. You have experienced these lights even though you have not had harness damage. I'm considering having the ABS module replaced with a used one (due to the expense), and see if there is any change. Toyota has no idea what the problem is.
     

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