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Severely Warped Rotors - Is This Set-Up Any Better?

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by socaldiablo, Aug 4, 2022.

  1. Aug 4, 2022 at 4:44 PM
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    socaldiablo

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    I bought a Rock Warrior just over a year ago and when I was making the 400+ mile journey from the seller's place to my home, I quickly noticed that the rotors were pretty badly warped. I'm wondering if the seller had to slam on his brakes while towing something. They are horrible, the most severely warped rotors of any vehicle I've ever driven in my life. In fact, the wheels were also out of balance so I had substantial vibration in the steering when cruising and braking the entire trip back. When I got the truck home, I took it to a shop near my office to get it inspected and the tech (young guy, inexperienced) noted that my pads had about 70% life left but did not inspect or document the rotors condition. Since the pads had a fair amount of life left, I've put off doing a complete brake job but it just seems that the rotors are getting worse and worse as time goes by, with substantial shaking in the steering wheel now when applying brake pressure. So it's now time to get this done. I've had Brembo rotors installed on previous vehicles and they've been pretty good so I'm thinking of going with the Brembos pictured paired up with the TRD pads pictured. Anyone have experience with this set-up and can advise on whether or not it's worth spending the extra money to do this vs. going with something more OEM? Thanks!
     
  2. Aug 4, 2022 at 5:16 PM
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  3. Aug 5, 2022 at 5:50 PM
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    I don't have any experience with the Brembos, but my OEM rotors have worked well for me. I tow often and almost always have several hundred pounds of gear in the bed. At ~140k, I changed the brakes and rotors and used the TRD pads; they have better bite and feel, IMO, but leave more dust as well. The fronts warped after a couple thousand miles, BUT that turned out to be from the tire jockey running my lugs down with the air gun set to 'whole-hog'. I discovered this when I went to swap the newly warped rotors and my m12 stubby impact wouldn't bust the lugs loose so I tried my m18 mid-torque impact, which wouldn't bust them either. For fun, I pulled out the torque wrench at it was clicking at 250 lbs-ft trying to back them off. Had to pull out the big gun and discovered that over half of the factory lugs were swollen or mushroomed. I ended up having to cold chisel a half dozen of the lugs off. I was pretty ticked. Replaced the OE rotors with another set of OE rotors and zero problems since.
     
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    I asked my Mechanic about brakes just this week. I have 88,000 miles on the stock pads & rotors. He believes, (notice I didn't say "FEELS":D) that I should see 100,000 miles from the OEM set-up. I'm certainly considering using OEM pads & rotors when the time comes.:spending:
     
  5. Aug 6, 2022 at 5:18 AM
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    I went with OEM rotors and Akebono pads from RockAuto. I'd do it again and again.
     
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  6. Aug 6, 2022 at 6:25 AM
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    Dude. I hope you called that shop and told them about your experience. They need to know their guy is completely inept at his job. He's probably damaging a ton of customer vehicles as he goes mega ooga on everyone's wheel studs
     
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    Brake rotors don't warp, they wear unevenly.

    A new set of premium rotors/pads will take care of your current issues (and a good wheel balance). Toss your old pads. Not worth keeping.

    Some people get 15k miles out of a set of brakes while others get 120K miles. All depends on how one uses the brakes or maintains them.
     
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  8. Aug 6, 2022 at 6:41 AM
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    I'm at 73k on OEM rotors. 2nd set of pads (went with Powerstop Z36).
     
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    My oem lasted about 20k before I started getting bad shaking when braking. It was worse when they were hot like when driving in the hills. I went with stoptech cryo slotted rotors and ebc yellow pads and they have been good.

    If you’re doing rotors, replace your pads too. Also sounds like you need your tires rebalanced.
     
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    I don't understand all the responses of people with their factory rotors that aren't warped. The OP and I are in the same situation, our factory ones warped. This is a known problem with our trucks and oem rotors. Telling us that yours are fine doesn't help any. I'm going with the Stoptech kit that was recommended before on here. The real answer is one of the $4000 big brake kits, but I can't swing that currently.
     
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  11. Aug 6, 2022 at 6:54 AM
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    Angry much?
     
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    Mostly at Toyota for their shit rotors.
     
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    On the flip side, stating this is known problem with factory rotors is equally not helping and is untrue. Pre-2012 I might agree with you since there was a backing plate recall that added venting.

    I’ve seen more people that DD their trucks have issues than members that tow/work them. Probably due to the whole “uneven wear” issue that causes the vibration.
     
  14. Aug 6, 2022 at 7:00 AM
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    Ah. I feel the same about their easy to scratch interior door panels. Sorry for your misfortune with the rotors.
     
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  15. Aug 6, 2022 at 7:01 AM
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    Would you say then that the issue is more to do with pad choice?
     
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    Uneven wear doesn't get worse with extra heat, then better when cooled. That's warping in action. I have had this issue for a while and I just hit 50,000. Up until I was coming down mountain passes in Montana, it was tolerable. I only had a uhaul with two four wheelers and two dirt bikes, so I was no where near max towing capacity. I have also seen a ton of threads stating the same warped rotor problems in the Gen 2.5 forum.
     
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    Could be. I went 60+K miles on my factory rotors and pads. I would get the vibration at times.

    Few things I did:

    Pulled rotors, ran emery cloth over the rotors or did a resurface (I did mine at work since we have several lathes). .005 was all that was usually needed.

    Twice a year I would service the brake pad pins so they would move freely and not drag. My wife's tacoma was the worst with this. Her rotors were pretty bad at 15K miles and didn't let me know. I just got her on the same rotation with the Tundra. She now does her own brakes. She just did the ones on her Subaru Crosstrek at 70K miles (rear only...which is weird).
     
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    Don't listen to some guy on the net. I would do the research on my own and maybe learn something new from industry experts if you let yourself. I had a member correct me on this many years ago on this very site. The amount of knowledge to be had on this site is mind boggling.

    Here is a few to start with.....

    https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/1808-nuts-and-bolts-warped-rotor-myth/
    https://www.crossdrilledrotors.ca/blog/stop-the-warped-rotors-myth-and-service-brakes-the-right-way
    https://centricparts.com/getmedia/b..._Whitepaper_B1-Warped-Brake-Disc-8-2018_1.pdf
     
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    The Suby only has rotors on the rear or she only did the rear rotors? lol
     
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    :rofl: Damn HS teachers are still correcting me!!!!!

    She only did the rear brake pads. She has 4 wheel disc brakes. I have never had a rear set of brakes wear out before the front.
     
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    I won't make you feel even worse by telling you I'm an elementary SpEd teacher lol

    yeah that IS weird to have the rear hit harder than the front... is there a problem with the brake proportioning valve? There are online reports of rear brakes wearing out after 30k miles or less on Subies
     
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    Well, at least I'm in the correct grade level :thumbsup:

    You know, I will have to look into that. The brakes on that little thing are shocking how good they are. I'm thinking the rear brake pads are undersized but it could be a proportioning valve issue.
     
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    In my case and my case only, I don't jump on the brakes every time I need to slow down by a few miles per hour. By staying in "S" mode and choosing the proper gears, I can go around most corners + numerous other instances, without touching the brakes. Dropping a gear or two is normally all it takes to avoid "free-wheeling" from the highest gear the transmission "thinks" is best. "Oh but it might harm the transmission":eek:... This would make sense if automakers haven't had to include soft wear in the Transmissions of most newer vehicles, to downshift with a brake-tap on steep enough grades. Why? Because most "drivers" will NEVER touch the shifter except for P-R and D! :lalala::D
     
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    Well Well well....the subaru crosstrek applies the inside rear brake in corners to reduce understeer. That solves this great mystery.
     
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    I went with Stoptech cryo'ed rotors, TRD pads, and Goodrich stainless lines. It was a great improvement over stock. I've warped stock Tundra rotors a couple of times, so I wanted an upgrade. I have Brembo rotors that are warped (albeit on another vehicle), so I plan on changing those out to a different brand.

    There is a specific bedding procedure for the TRD pads - something like 10x hard braking from 60 to 0, then cool the red hot brakes and rotors for 20 minutes. Make sure you do that immediately.
     
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    While cooling it is imperative that pads are not resting on rotors. (e.g. foot on brake pedal at red light)
     

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