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Secondary air injection pump failure with valves stuck open

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Franke, Oct 5, 2015.

  1. Oct 5, 2015 at 2:18 PM
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    Franke

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    Have a 2006 tundra. Engine light on. Code shows secondary air injection pump has problems. Has anyone had success in getting Toyota to cover the replacement cost for a faulty secondary air injector pump and sticking valves? Case action covers costs for 2007-2011 tundra with problem but problem existed before 2007.
     
  2. Oct 5, 2015 at 2:47 PM
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    jberry813

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    The TSB didn't cover first gens despite the fact its the same. You're basically SOL.

    Toyota Corporate: 800 331-4331
    Call and bitch as much as you care too. But Toyota isn't going to cover something they don't have to.
     
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  3. Oct 5, 2015 at 3:13 PM
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    Mike

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    yep bank account is running low from it..
    All you can do is get a bypass kit and be done with it.
     
  4. Oct 5, 2015 at 4:45 PM
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    Ditto^^ SOL
     
  5. Oct 6, 2015 at 4:28 PM
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    My original entry 10/5/15:
    "Have a 2006 tundra. Engine light on. Code shows secondary air injection pump has problems. Has anyone had success in getting Toyota to cover the replacement cost for a faulty secondary air injector pump and sticking valves? Case action covers costs for 2007-2011 tundra with problem but problem existed before 2007."

    Update:10/6/15
    Information that may be useful for anyone experiencing this problem:
    1. Toyota pays a warranty rate of $1495.67 to the dealer to repair this problem if under warranty. According to the technical service bulletin (http://www.autosafety.org/sites/default/files/imce_staff_uploads/T-SB-0160-11.pdf) number of hours to repair: 4 not 6 hours like my dealer tried to charge. Do not let the dealer rip you off with some ridiculous charge of any amount over $1600 plus tax.
    2. Because I currently have 2 Toyota products and just sold a third one, this fact pursuanted Toyota to try to keep my loyalty with a "goodwill" offer to help off set the expense of repair for this faulty secondary air injector and stuck values on my 2006 Tundra.
    3. Even though intermediate Toyota representatives told me this was a non-negotiable offer, I stated it was unacceptable and made a point of stating to my original Toyota representative on our second phone conversation, my loyalty needed a higher % of expense covered by Toyota. The original goodwill offer was changed to a higher percentage after a lengthy pause in conversation.
    4. Never did they admit to the problem of defective parts that allow moisture intrusion. I even stated I had documented cases from the Center for Auto Safety. Did not matter. I stated how the loss of acceleration while entering a interstate highway almost resulted in my getting hit. Did not matter. Only thing that mattered or made a difference in my case was securing my loyalty which I admit was teetering on on the edge of total disintegration.
    Hope this helps someone.
    Franke
     
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  6. Dec 19, 2015 at 11:11 AM
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    So I have the same exact issue, have had it going on for quite a while. Except now the secondary pump has stopped working all together. So right away my Tundra goes into limp mode as soon as I start the engine. I would rather hear the loud vacuum noise the pump used to make for 30 seconds instead of being in limp mode. Does anyone know if the pump can just be replaced or is there something more going on and replacing it wouldn't help. Right now i have to warm up my truck past 105 degrees, turn it off, unhook the battery terminal, wait 60 seconds, hook it up back up then go about my business. Its a pain in the ass. Plus they aren't warranteeing any of the '06 failures. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also does anybody know how difficult it is to replace that little pump. I would like to do it myself.
     
  7. Dec 19, 2015 at 12:07 PM
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    One of the two pumps usually goes bad on the 2nd gens. Forgot which one. Not sure about 1st gens. Usually it's just the one pump. In every case that I came across on other forums was one pump clean as a whistle and the other was fracked up due to water/condensation getting inside. If not corrected soon, I've seen where exhaust manifolds had to be removed due to corroded stuck valve/valves because of the bad AIP, which at that point becomes a more serious issue. I have also come across instances where the offending pump was removed, taken apart, cleaned up and put back in. AIP's are starting to show up on Amazon now: http://www.amazon.com/Brand-Secondary-Injection-2004-2011-Toyota/dp/B00KJFWQP8
     
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  8. Sep 19, 2016 at 6:26 PM
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    Hewitt technologies Inc. has bypass kits. plug and play. just did mine couple days ago. saved me thousands from dealer.
     
  9. Sep 19, 2016 at 7:11 PM
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    I truly think that most of the AIP issues occur in high humidity states. Worse if you live in a high humidity state and off road a lot in mud, muddy water, etc. I'd like to see a break down from members here that have had the dreaded AIP failure by state, year of your Tundra, miles?, off road??, Never off road?? I thrive off stats, so let Tundras.com become the 1st forum that actually approaches the AIP failure issue from a scientific standpoint instead of anecdotal problems. Worth a try???
     
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  10. Sep 19, 2016 at 9:05 PM
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    I live in Hawaii. It can get humid. My 2006 has 60k on her. Bypass module was 5min. install was quick. You do need to take front wheels off to get a great angle on installing the by pass plates. That can run you 1hr. Hope this helps for your stats .
     
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