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Second Best 1/2 Ton Truck...

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by joonbug, Sep 30, 2016.

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What's the second best 1/2 Ton truck???

  1. Chevy Silverado 1500

    16.3%
  2. Dodge Ram 1500

    10.2%
  3. GMC Sierra 1500

    21.4%
  4. Nissan Titan

    10.2%
  5. Ford F-150

    41.8%
  1. Oct 1, 2016 at 12:34 AM
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    I had an F-150 so not ford. The rest are a toss up. Probably equally bad but I'd pick dodge purely on looks.
     
  2. Oct 1, 2016 at 12:50 AM
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    This is a tough one. I test drove all of them (except Nissan) before buying my Tundra and they all felt equally inferior. I guess my vote would go to Chevy by default since I drove their junk for years.
     
  3. Oct 1, 2016 at 7:37 PM
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    Looks like the F-150 is second best. Point proven to my buddy who was saying his GMC is the best truck.
     
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  4. Oct 1, 2016 at 8:28 PM
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    All relative man. I wouldn't buy a "anything" that has cylinder shutdown for fuel economy, especially from GM. Would I buy a early GM motor (LS series)? Hell yeah I would. Hard to beat an LS swapped anything.

    On the flip side, I would buy a GMC 2500/3500 Duramax setup without even thinking twice about it. Solid trucks (year dependent, LBZ 06.5-07.5, 2012 newer)
     
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  5. Oct 1, 2016 at 8:34 PM
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    I just hate the Chevy engines. Not a fan of the aluminum body for that reason but there's always trade offs. Would rather have a decent engine.
     
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  6. Oct 2, 2016 at 4:23 PM
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    Chevy 6.0L doesn't exactly suck. I've been in Chebbie with the 6L. Hauled ass.
     
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  7. Oct 2, 2016 at 4:26 PM
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    No trade offs. Stick with Toyota USA made by well paid happy non union workers.
     
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  8. Oct 2, 2016 at 6:26 PM
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    But does Ferd offer a long bed (8') extended cab F150 ?
     
  9. Oct 2, 2016 at 7:43 PM
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    Everyone saying "gmc - the Denali version" doesn't get it. The Denali version of any gmc is like if your wife's ugly friend shaved her cock holster and put on some lip stick. It's the same fucking thing. I JUST came from a 2015 GMC Sierra Z-71, with the 5.3l. It took threatening to take GMC to lemon law court over the pile of shit truck to get a $3500 trade assist offer to only buy another fuckin gmc. Trucks are trash, company is fucking trash, they shouldn't even be considered under any circumstance. The 5.3l can't even lick the jock of the 3.5l in the Tacoma, it's bad...
     
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  10. Oct 2, 2016 at 7:46 PM
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    Now that's how you do a rant lol.
     
  11. Oct 2, 2016 at 7:47 PM
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  12. Oct 2, 2016 at 8:09 PM
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    Anyone can obviously tell you are rather butt-hurt over the Chevy/GMC experience and how you were treated. What did you actually have issues with if you don't mind me asking?

    The Denali is a trim package, nothing more or less. The drivetrain is not changed. I probably will not go with the Denali trim package when I buy my 3500 next year.
     
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  13. Oct 2, 2016 at 8:15 PM
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    There are trade off when we are talking about second place :)
    I'll never leave the Tundra family so problem solved.
     
  14. Oct 2, 2016 at 8:20 PM
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    We aren't talking about 25 or 3500s though. Strictly half tons.

    My truck shook at any speed over 68mph. The steering wheel didn't shake, but the seats and everything else in the truck shook. I had it back at the dealership 4 times, they balanced the tires, replaced the tires AND wheels, replaced the driveshaft, and replaced the ring gear. Nothing worked. Truck still shook at 68+. And it's tough because gmc either doesn't know how to fix it, or does and doesn't want to pay to fix it. The drivetrain is no different for 2016 and people are also reporting they shake like hell too. A $45k truck should not shake.

    Other than that i had the AC compressor shit the bed, truck would "skip" when going from 4cyl to 8cyl mode, 4wd felt like it was binding non stop if you had it on. Their info link or whatever you call it is a huge piece of shit and doesn't have actual navigation. Just dumb stuff that you would think would be good in an expensive truck. Mine had 3.08 gears, which is fucked to even think about putting in a truck; it was a dog. It rode like shit. It was just a huge pile of shit, me and a buddy bought almost identical trucks around the same time and he still has his. He drove my tundra and was immediately impressed after doing nothing but shit on it when I bought it...
     
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  15. Oct 2, 2016 at 9:35 PM
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    Man I would be so flippen pissed and know exactly where you are coming from. LOL, I used to sound just like you about Dodge...still do. Was it lifted or anything else? I see a lot of dealerships do the lift kits and really turn the truck into a handful of smashed assholes with cheap kits. Vibrations at highway speeds is not only annoying, but unsafe and destroys parts.

    GM really lost me in the half ton market a long time ago, and to be honest I think they (GM) kinda gave up on them. There were some really piss poor decisions made (IMHO) with cylinder deactivation, no rear disc brakes (last time I checked), craptastic 10B rear axle and tall ass gears like 3.08s (how stupid is that crap?).

    The cylinder deactivation stumble would annoy the living hell out of me as well. Ram's system in the 6.4L isn't too bad, and in a 2500 you are rarely in 4 cylinder anyway. The GM is just crap. The 5.3L is a good engine (except after 05), I just question it in a 1/2 ton truck that has to do any kind of work.

    This is my buddies 01 Chevy 1500 with 220K miles with the original drivetrain except fuel pumps. Still runs like a top, but this was before all the other bullshit was used. We hauled ass from Colorado to Southern California loaded like this...LOL. we got like 11 mpg due to wind drag. We were supposed to take my Dodge 2500 Diesel and my flatbed, but it couldn't even make it up to Denver without breaking down. The truck has been great for him, but he is very good on maintenance and I would also say he is the exception, not the rule.

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    So what you are basically sayin is that a Chevy/GMC sucks? heh..heh. I don't care much for any of the big three. I did like the Denali interior.
     
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  17. Oct 2, 2016 at 9:50 PM
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    Years ago, near Van Nuys Kommiefornia, Every year at Woodley Park they have Mopar Madness in March. Not long after the Viper came out, there was a 2wd Dodge with the Viper motor swapped in. I liked it.
     
  18. Oct 2, 2016 at 9:58 PM
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    I agree... this is from a guy who was a Ford F-150 guy ( last Ford was a 2005) for my whole life. My 2014 TRD beats the competition hands down... just sayin...
     
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    AND.... turbo V-6 in a pickup?!?!? WTF?!?!!
     
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    They are strong runners, but holy hell the fuel economy when you are hitched to anything just sucks. My FIL has a 12' F150 EB, but he is looking to swap it out.
     
  21. Oct 3, 2016 at 6:04 AM
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    Yeah, GM just makes huge piles of shit. Never driven one of their bigger trucks, but I would assume it's no different - I'd buy a Dodge if I had to buy a new 1 ton.
     
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    I used to think Chevy but after the horror stories I've scene I'd just get a Tacoma if not a Tundra.
     
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    Funny, I have experienced the exact opposite with the GM HD line of trucks (and the same as you with the light duty trucks, newer ones) and the Ram's are still POS. Hell, our little Jeep outing with a low mileage Ram, the front end almost fell out from under it, quite literally. That just made me decide a little quicker. I became a diesel mechanic due to owning two Dodge trucks. I learned a lot, it was enough money to pay cash for a 2 year old used Corvette (not so cool). My co-worker has the same year 3rd gen dodge as I had and he is going through all the bullshit I did. I am just sitting back and going "wow"...

    I don't fault you for never buying another GM. Hell, I am the same way about Rams, and more so just on principle alone.
     
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    The Duramax is a great engine, and the Allison is awesome. I drove one at my last job, and I was never left wanting for power even when pulling 20k+ lbs. The only problem we had with a few of the 2011's was they threw DEF codes fairly often, my 2012 never had any of those problems.

    The 6.0L in the 3/4 tons is a pretty good motor as well, we run them as shop trucks at my current job. As far as I know they don't have cylinder deactivation but I could be wrong.
     
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    Honestly, I would probably feel the best about the GMC 3/4 or 1 tons just from seeing all the issues my buddies had from their Fords. I can't totally fault Ford, because they never left them stock but it was still concerning to see them have MAJOR issues and breakdowns at least every 3 months.
     
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    It is a little slow.

    GMC for the first loser!!!

    Lol. This should get it revived
     
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    My dad has the sierra Denali 6.2. It the only thing I have ever been in that compares to my Tundra in interior and hp/torque. To each their own...my dad still thinks my truck is made in Japan.:)
     
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    Your not kidding about the shake, I currently drive a rclb 2014 Silverado and it doesn't shake. I am looking to upgrade to a larger cab so naturally looked at a double cab chevy, went to test drive and it shook like crazy at 65mph. So now here I am shopping for a Tundra.

    Aside from that my Silverado has been great, my mpg are awesome loaded and unloaded and the truck has done what I have asked of it so far. I have had it in for 2 recalls since ownership, my driver seat ripped at like 8kmiles and gm replaced under warranty and my last service a week ago I had a squeak that turned out to be loose trans mount. The gm dealer has been great and never questioned any of my concerns or warranty work request. I will be going to a different dealer then I bought my taco from for the tundra purchase as they were awful when you mention a concern "characteristic of the truck" I swear I ever hear that again...lol. All makes and models have issues, its just a fact of life, Toyota is better but not golden, my taco had AIR valve failure at 53k and no help from Toyota. I will say though my Tacoma at 66k is as tight as the day I bought it where my Silverado at 24k my wife tells me "drives old."
     
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    No Tundra? Having owned all of them, I'd rather overload a Tacoma than drive one of the 'Big 3s' 1/2 tons again... Or if hauling/towing real heavy loads I guess I'd go with another 6 speed manual CTD. Been driving mine for over 13 years- still use it for work- and it's been an OK truck. Have spent money here and there that pissed me off, batteries/alternators/front ends/FASS fuel systems, etc, but overall it's been decent...

    My Dodge gas pot trucks were garbage, even the 318 Dakota had issues. My F-150 was one electrical nightmare after another, heaven forbid it rain out! My old GMCs were OK- 305s and 350s- I'd own another old GM, but my Dad's 2013 burns oil like it thinks it's a 2-stroke, and yet, 'it's in spec'... Not for this kid! Nope, Tundra or nothing, thanks.
     
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