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Save Ironman 2022 aka Panhandlemonium

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by bmf4069, Mar 31, 2022.

  1. Apr 7, 2022 at 6:27 PM
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    assassin10000

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    They're probably full of it. Take a look at the adjusters for the lowers.

    The rear ones should have the bolts pushed fully to the outside (towards the wheels) and the front ones should be mostly inwards.
     
  2. Apr 7, 2022 at 7:30 PM
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    Do the goobers at Firestone even know how to handle those aftermarket UCA's? Are those not more adjustable?
     
  3. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:12 PM
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    Looks like DNA all over the place
     
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  4. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:43 PM
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    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    They promised otherwise
     
  5. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:43 PM
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    FrenchToasty

    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, 6 lug enthusiast

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    Hell yeah!!!!
     
  6. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:48 PM
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    MrDirtjumper Ol’ dickhead

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    I must be a big ol fat donger too because the last time I checked, Freedoms aren’t adjustable.
     
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  7. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:51 PM
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    Shalt JBA and spc be the only two in that fight?
     
  8. Apr 7, 2022 at 8:52 PM
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    MrDirtjumper Ol’ dickhead

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    And yeah, I agree with everyone else. I set the tabs to eyeball center and got 1.6 on the driver. I bet if I would have pushed the passenger rear out it would be close to the same and would have evened out that negative camber.

    God I wish we had another day.
     
  9. Apr 8, 2022 at 3:53 AM
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    No I guess I am the donger. I just assumed all the aftermarket UCA's had some adjustability.

    It's hard to find a shop around here than can do a proper alignment with my SPC arms. I have to go to the 4x4 shop and last time they were assholes about it.
     
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  10. Apr 8, 2022 at 4:03 AM
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    bmf4069

    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    I'll throw the AAL in and level the truck out then take it to a different firestone here. Maybe they'll have a competent tech. If not, we'll do a good adjustment when I make my way down there.
     
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  11. Apr 8, 2022 at 4:04 AM
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    bmf4069

    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    Freedoms are basically just to get more.....freedom.....in your UBJ when lifting.
     
  12. Apr 8, 2022 at 7:47 AM
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    So, solo motosports brings out the extra caster LCA’s and alignment shops just ‘happen’ to forget how to adjust for caster…

    7EEA09D4-04C4-4E1F-89D1-6ECB1C2E4D29.jpg
     
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  13. Apr 8, 2022 at 7:53 AM
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    I would suggest you show/tell @bmf4069 how to do that if he doesn't already know. Something tells me that's too complex an operation for the employees at Firestone.

    That way he can revisit them for an adjustment that's close to how it should be considering he got the lifetime "all-we-do-is-adjust-toe" package. :D
     
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  14. Apr 8, 2022 at 7:57 AM
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    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    He showed me, but we were both kinda inebriated. I got the gist of it though. It's those cam bolts that kinda confuse me, and I don't wanna fuck with toe. I hate tie rod ends.
     
  15. Apr 8, 2022 at 8:16 AM
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    3 years ago when I installed the SPC uppers on mine I had to drive back to the shop to show them how to add more caster...even though I left the instructions with them. So I'd say they mostly just want to fiddle with the cams and get the pretty green colors.
     
  16. Apr 8, 2022 at 8:39 AM
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  17. Apr 8, 2022 at 1:18 PM
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    I thought freedom added 2-3 degrees of caster. I'm not buying firestone's explanation. I also have the lifetime alignment and I called a few different ones until I found a guy who knew lifted trucks and aftermarket parts. (my old lifted tundra on stock arms had that much caster).

    Also, I think SPC are the only arms that are adjustable. JBA add more caster but don't have the adjustable ball joint SPC does.
     
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  18. Apr 8, 2022 at 4:07 PM
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    MrDirtjumper Ol’ dickhead

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    I’m one of those people who isn’t exactly great with words so I just say fuck a lot.

    Trust me, I think they all heard enough of it last weekend.
     
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  19. Apr 8, 2022 at 4:25 PM
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    Dont forget to set your ride height before making other adjustments, if that missing inch of lift on the driver side really bugs you. Maybe check height at the body mounts to make sure its not a misalignment with a fender.
     
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  21. Apr 8, 2022 at 4:47 PM
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    All this talk of no BBQ made me crave brisket. So…



    Kinda feel like a dick and like I should have done this last Thursday but then I also kinda feel like I’ll have a 12lb brisket to split with the Mrs. in the morning so ehh…

     
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  22. Apr 8, 2022 at 6:54 PM
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    Money shot or it didn't happen!
     
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  23. Apr 8, 2022 at 8:55 PM
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    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    After talking with the guys at the specialty shop, I'm gonna put in the AAL, then lift the front more. They're gonna level it then I'm gonna take it to another firestone. They can handle lifts at the other one.
     
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  24. Apr 8, 2022 at 8:59 PM
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    Tell them you want:

    -0.1 camber
    2.8 caster
    .15-.20 total toe (.07-.10 per side)
     
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  25. Apr 8, 2022 at 9:01 PM
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    bmf4069 [OP] Yup, that's car parts in a dishwasher

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    I gave them JD's specs, but they couldn't meet them because my uppers drooped too much.
     
  26. Apr 8, 2022 at 9:07 PM
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    Sounds like a big ol bag of booshit to me.
     
  27. Apr 8, 2022 at 9:19 PM
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    My uppers outers are way higher than the inners. You’re should be closer to level? Or are your outers lower than your inners?
     
  28. Apr 8, 2022 at 9:20 PM
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    zoomed out so i can fit the pic kinda fish eye’s everything. But, by droop, do you mean your upper arms have dropped past level and your ubj’s are lower than your uca bushings?
     
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  29. Apr 9, 2022 at 5:40 PM
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    MrDirtjumper Ol’ dickhead

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    I put it in the 1st Gen round up PM thread. You sure you don’t want anything for it?
     
  30. Apr 9, 2022 at 7:21 PM
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    MrDirtjumper Ol’ dickhead

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    Sorry to disappoint but it wasn’t my greatest. Wife and I went to go grab drinks & dinner and I guess somehow my fire went out. So it got about 2 hours of smoke and then about the same time to cool back off. Lit it back up for another couple hours but started dozing off around 1:30 so I just bailed, wrapped it and put it in our oven.

     
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