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Rubbing Issue Confusion

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by tgrave1, May 3, 2021.

  1. May 3, 2021 at 1:37 PM
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    I have read through a bunch of threads and am still a little baffled as to what is going on with my setup. Running Method 308's (+18 offset) and an Eibach Pro Kit on the top setting (about 3 inches) in the front and a 1 inch shackle in the rear. I am still getting a little rubbing on the front bumper and cab mount even though I didn't expect to. This confuses me since I seem to read that some members run a similar wheel/tire setup with just a level lift and don't seem to experience any rubbing at all. I have decided that I don't really care for the truck to be as high as it is and would like to remove the rear Shackle and take the front down an inch to improve the ride, but I am concerned that the rubbing will be considerably worse. Is there something that I am overlooking that can be done to avoid rubbing with a simple level lift or am I going to end up having to do some cutting/trimming? Thanks in advance for any advice or links to posts that I may have missed.
     
  2. May 3, 2021 at 1:42 PM
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    Eibachs lift numbers are over stated. Have you confirmed you actually got 3” of front lift? Most all only get between 2-2.5” of lift. Anyhow, what size tire are you running?
     
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    alignment numbers?
     
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    Your tire width is going to play a role in this.
     
  5. May 3, 2021 at 2:05 PM
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    The suspension definitely seemed to lift that much. I was running some pretty good reverse rake after putting them in so I had to add the shackles to level. running 295/70/18's. Sorry. Should have put that in the first post.
     
  6. May 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM
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    I don't have the alignment numbers but was wondering if the alignment shop didn't really know how to adjust to help me out.
     
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  7. May 3, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    Eibach Pro Kit. 1 inch shackles. N-Fab side steps. 18 inch Method 308 Roost wheels. Falken Wildpeak AT/3 tires (295-70-18).
    This was with the 1 inch shackles in the rear. Still looks a little higher in the front to me most of the time.
     
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    i've got 3.5" lift and running 295/18 and still have slight rubbing on full lock. i do not think there isn't rubbing under 3" lift with 295s. Some have said the tires also play a big role since many are running the Nitto Ridge Grapplers and they don't seem as tall or wide. You'll need to remove the thin guards and push the front liner in. I know others have opted to get 1/2" shims to push out the front bumper and heat the liners and push it in with a small ball. Just my opinion but if you're not rubbing the bodymount, you're fine.
     
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    Eibach doesnt state 3", Toytec does.

    Both Eibach stages are quoted as level with the rear, which is at most a 2.25" lift.
     
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    Offset is the key, I ran 315s with Icon wheels on my Pro at 2" of front lift.

    Methods 18s are 18x9 +18, which would be comparable to the Icons if they were a 17x8.5 +12. So the Methods are sticking out 1/2" further than my Icons were. Lift wont correct this if you ever take it off road as the suspension will still cycle the same and will rub at some point.

    Best and easiest option is to get a cab mount chop and either push the front bumper plastics forward or remove them all together.
     
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    Thanks for the info. Perfect stance on your truck in my opinion. Looks great! Apparently I may have bumper shims and a CMC in my near future.
     
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    Agreed me a lift will allow you to fit larger tires, but to many, a lift where you can't use the full range of travel without clearance issues is an unacceptable compromise. :sawzall::welder:

    From another post of mine:

    While waiting on my front coilovers to come in, thought I'd better test fit and perform a drivability test.

    MR701 18x9 +25 w/ 35x12.50r18 Ridge Grapplers at stock ride height with mild BMC, CoachBuilder front bumper shims, removed front flaps, happy to report that there is no rubbing.



    -JS
     
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    Eibach on the 2.5 setting with 35x12.5 on 17x8.5 +25 Icons. No CMC or bumper rub but everything is very close. Your caster needs to be adjusted to clear the body mount.
     
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    Huge thanks for all of the info everyone. I think my plan is to go with the bumper shims first to try and avoid cutting if possible, and then adjust the caster and see where I end up. Seems like my offset may be the variable that causes issues.
     
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    Was gonna say, when you start adding offset wheels, that's where you may or may not get some rubbing. Mine are -19 offset, and there's no initial rub while driving or turning, but there is a rub... simply not noticeable.

     
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    Here is mine with bumper shim added.

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    I too am having terrible rubbing with my new set up. Got 295/70-18 with a 0 offset wheel. Got the BMC still rubbed. Added caster and still hitting but also hitting the front bumper now. Got 6112, top setting no shims and camburg UCA. All i can think is maybe adding shims on bumper and shocks.
     
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    How much caster do you have with the Camburg UCAs?
     
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    Last I know it was about 6 degrees. I had an alignment done and thats what they set it to. Had a hard pull to the right and they "adjusted" it but I didn't get the sheet. So now with my new set up and had horrible rubbing, the advice I've received from many people is just play with the caster. I don't really know what it is now since i don't have an alignment machine just trying to get it not to rub.

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    With that much caster and 0 offset you are probably going to need a much more aggressive CMC
     
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    You were able to run 35’s without any trimming? I’m a bit confused, thought 35’s were too big. I was going to go with 33’ with just a front level. Not looking for a lift.
     
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    No trimming just cutting lol
     
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    Lol. I don’t want to get into all that. 33’s it is I guess.
     
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    With Mild BMC, CoachBuilder Bumpershims, and removing front flaps, I have no rubbing lock to lock, from full droop through full bump, which is more important to me than having no rubbing at static ride height (stock as I am now or the 2.25-2.5 inch ride increase from my inbound coilovers :fingerscrossed:). Hell I didn't even rub on my OE skid...

    -JS
     
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    I’m in the process of learning all this $h!t so I’m going to google everything you just said lol.
     
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    Translation theres alot that goes into for no rub :rofl:
     
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