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Ride quality upgrade without upping the ride height

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Tundra280AI, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. Nov 29, 2016 at 7:33 PM
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    Tundra280AI

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    Been reading around and seeing that Bilstein 5100s are a good choice, just wondering if there's anything else you'd recommend?

    Reason being after riding in two different TRD Off Roads, I like their ride quality better than mine. One had 18" wheels, the other had 20s like mine with the same 275/55s so I know it wasn't the tire difference.

    Not looking to lift it, but just want a better feel.

    TIA
     
  2. Nov 29, 2016 at 7:51 PM
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    An 18" wheel will typically ride better than a 20" because there is more rubber between you and the ground. Tire pressure can also affect ride quality. I'm running the 5100s and the ride is just slightly firmer than stock, but seems to absorb small bumps a lot better (read better ride). That said, its really pretty subjective, so YMMV.
     
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  3. Nov 29, 2016 at 9:33 PM
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    Bilstein 5100s, Bilstein 6112 or Toytec Boss set at 0" lift if your not looking for any lift.
     
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  4. Nov 29, 2016 at 10:28 PM
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    I think @AxelsHumanDad (sorry if it's not you) or one of the other guys just bought the red TRD performance shocks, they don't lift the truck but I'm not sure what the differences are between them and the Bilsteins on the TRD models.

    Ride quality means different things to different people, I'm not a suspension guy but I know that there can be big differences between shocks and the way they are valved/setup.

    One thing that may improve ride quality, specifically body roll/handling, is a TRD rear sway bar.
     
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  5. Nov 30, 2016 at 1:47 AM
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    Are we talking about lexus ride quality or better handling?
     
  6. Nov 30, 2016 at 3:52 AM
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    AxelsHumanDad

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    yep, that was me. :)

    It depends on what you have and what you want. Your vehicle description says 1794, does that have the black shocks like my platinum had? Soft, "squishy" ride? I've had 5 TRD trucks previously and the ride of this was definitely soft in comparison.
    Basically there are 3 factory shocks; the black Tokico, the yellow Bilstein TRD off road, and the red TRD performance.
    My truck is a street pig with about 95% highway time, and I enjoy "spirited" driving meaning I like to go fast around curves :)
    I went with the red shocks plus the sway bar and it definitely firmed up the ride. Is it different than the yellow shocks? I would say its similar, but I was told the red are aimed more toward street driving more than off road.
    I like them so far, got about 1000 miles on them. It for sure handles like a car and rides like a truck way more than those wallowing black shocks. I also changed my front springs to the off road spring.
    I'm still tweaking my air pressures looking for the sweet spot. I have 275 55 20 Michelin Defender LTX M/S tires and Spidertrax wheel spacers. When these are due for replacement I want to go with 305 50 20 in the same tire.


    sent from my phone right after the alarm woke me so apologies if this was a confusing paragraph, I'll check it later on a real computer :)
     
  7. Nov 30, 2016 at 5:24 AM
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  8. Nov 30, 2016 at 5:52 AM
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    So what I meant is that the TRD OR (even with 20s) has a firmer ride, but better in that it absorbs bumps more smoothly while mine is more harsh feeling. Firmer but softer in a way?
     
  9. Nov 30, 2016 at 6:47 AM
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    I gotcha. It all gets complicated, but at least you know you like the feel of the Bilsteins on the TRD off road. I'm not sure how the ride on the 5100's and 6112's compare. The TRD OR Billy's pop up for sale quite a bit as "take offs" when guys lift their trucks.
     
  10. Nov 30, 2016 at 7:35 AM
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    Do you currently have the black or yellow shocks?
     
  11. Nov 30, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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    Yup, mine will be up for sale in a week or two.
     
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  12. Nov 30, 2016 at 9:50 AM
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    Have the black shocks
     
  13. Nov 30, 2016 at 1:22 PM
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    ok, squishy shocks and soft springs. Upgrading to the off road shocks would tighten the ride but I'm not sure about how much firmer it would feel without changing the springs too since I did both at the same time.
     

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