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Recall: Pre-Collision System (PCS)

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by OR18TRD, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Apr 24, 2019 at 8:13 PM
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    LT75

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    I’ve only had a random brake once. I don’t know what it saw. Good thing for the override when your on the accelerator. Then there was the time when everything was working until someone pulled out in front of me. I almost hit the lady. No alert or anything, then I looked down to see a “PCS unavailable”. Yeah no shit.
     
  2. Apr 25, 2019 at 5:36 AM
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    I got denied last Friday for the recall on account of my lift. I understand their viewpoint of the truck being out of spec in terms of ride height, but the damn sensor is getting water inside whether the truck is lifted or not...
     
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  3. Apr 25, 2019 at 4:52 PM
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    Had mine fixed.... I agree with the early post that it's a cheap and sloppy fix. The foam sticker they put on sticks out everywhere.

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  4. Apr 25, 2019 at 5:42 PM
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    Right from the 2018 Tundra brochure.

    https://www.toyota.com/content/ebrochure/2018/tundra_ebrochure.pdf

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  5. Apr 25, 2019 at 5:47 PM
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    The foam cushion application looks terrible. I'm getting mine 'sealed' next week and will see how sloppy the job is.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    Oh my god I didn’t know I could do that!
     
  7. Apr 25, 2019 at 7:02 PM
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    I never changed the oil in my GMC myself. It had a recall every 3k miles or so for 48k miles so I just let the dealer do it while it was there.
     
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  8. Apr 25, 2019 at 8:26 PM
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  9. Apr 26, 2019 at 9:37 AM
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    Please don't misunderstand the sentiment in my previous statement.

    I'm not contesting whether the tss will apply brakes if imminent collision is determined. I'm merely stating that I've never experienced this.
     
  10. Apr 26, 2019 at 10:06 AM
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    I have had the red box pop up and scream at me but it never applied the brakes.
     
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  11. Apr 26, 2019 at 10:45 AM
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    I think it may depend on how fast you are going when it happens and whether or not you apply the brakes. I live in SoCal where the traffic magically starts and stops at random. I’ve had it go off on city roads where it just flashed and beeped at me but I was already applying the brakes. The other day I took a 3hr road trip and had the adaptive cruise set. The cars ahead of me slowed down quickly and the system automatically took the truck out of cruise and applied the brakes. It wasn’t anything crazy but certainly noticeable.
     
  12. May 3, 2019 at 7:13 AM
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    Someone in my local Tundra group that works at a dealership posted that they've updated the terms of the recall for modified trucks - they'll do the update and sealant but make you sign a form and disable the PCS.
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  13. May 3, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    Drytortuga Maybe we should’ve turned left at Albuquerque

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    Seems like somebody from the Marketing department reminded the Legal department why they sell so many trucks based on a 10 year old design.
     
  14. May 3, 2019 at 8:05 AM
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    Glad mine was fine a few weeks ago.
     
  15. May 3, 2019 at 8:17 AM
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    Had my truck in for the other recalls about a month ago. Also had a front end alignment done because of installing my lift (5100’s at middle setting with 1 Coachbuilder shim each side). On a side note, they didn’t charge me for the alignment :) They order the sealant for the front sensor and I had that recall done today! Nothing was said about my lift!
    Great dealership!
     
  16. May 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM
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    I still have to do mine, I have the Bilstein 6112/5160 combo at higher setting and I won't let them turn the PCS off, that's one of the reasons why I bought a 2018 and not a 2017, besides I have never had an issue with the system and everything works as expected.
     
  17. May 3, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    If part of the modified update is to retain last PCS setting at key off then it does not sound like they are disabling the PCS - just setting it to off until you turn it on. I will get clarification next Wednesday at my 5K service. We are planning on pulling a trailer... I will be thrilled if it will now remember my last setting when I start the car so I don’t forget to turn it off with the trailer.
     
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  18. May 3, 2019 at 12:05 PM
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    It doesn’t stay off. Turns back on every time you start the truck. So you would need to turn it off every time as well. I would tell them that they better not put that f-ing stick on my dash.

    What’s funny is that I’ve had fewer issues with the system after I lifted my truck. Was in the dealership 5 times to fix the PCS before (12,000 miles) and only twice after lifting (9,000 miles).
     
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  19. May 3, 2019 at 12:40 PM
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    If you look at the modified recall campaign posted by TRDFerguson (best user name ever) - it says the PCS will now remember last setting at key off for non spec trucks after the flash. I’ve already had the K0B performed by a dealer before this change, but I am going to see if they can perform this updated flash next week.
     
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  20. May 3, 2019 at 12:52 PM
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    Hold the phone: you mean to tell me they will fix the TSS sensor if we sign a waiver and disable the PCS for out-of-spec (i.e., lifted) trucks? So the benefit of the "fixed" sensor with disabled PCS is...radar cruise??? Strike two, Toyota. :mad: :evil:
     
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  21. May 3, 2019 at 4:29 PM
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    From my understanding it says you cannot use drcc. So what will the sealant fix if the radar is completely disabled?
     
  22. May 3, 2019 at 4:36 PM
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    I like your circumstances because they clearly document that there was fault prior to installing the lift.

    I don't think that mine will ever return to a dealer...
     
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  23. May 3, 2019 at 4:54 PM
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    It says “Toyota recommends the DRCC and PCS not be used” not can’t. If I get this done on next Wednesday’s 5K service I will report back assuming no one beats me to it.
     
  24. May 3, 2019 at 6:13 PM
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    I got another false ‘BRAKE!’ alarm today, truck didn’t brake for me just tried to give me a damn heart attack again. This is first false alarm since the recall late last year (only about 1k miles since then). She’s at the dealer now, we’ll see. I have a theory, I think Tundras see dead people and I’m afraid no software update can fix that. There could be an upside I haven’t figured out yet....
     
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  25. May 3, 2019 at 8:17 PM
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    I want the whole system turned the F off by default until I manually turn it on. Is there any way to do this via any of the options programming tools?
     
  26. May 3, 2019 at 9:25 PM
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    I sincerely doubt it, these systems are the wave of the future. Toyota will figure it out. If you really crave driving freedom I have a minty ‘87 Volvo 740 with a manual transmission and no ABS, 78k miles. The classiest way to say f-u to the man.
     
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  27. May 4, 2019 at 7:55 PM
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    I’ve had this happen a few times to me as well. I did have the recall and got it fixed. Since then no issues. We will see.
     
  28. May 4, 2019 at 8:09 PM
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    Did you have the most recent recall? Sealing the radar thingy and another software update?
     
  29. May 5, 2019 at 9:53 PM
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  30. May 5, 2019 at 10:17 PM
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    The PCS didn't work for me. I was in the inside lane of a 3 lane service road going through a light on a yellow and an idiot turns in front of me at the intersection and crosses all the way over 3 lanes at probably 20-25 mph, hears my horn and hits his freaking brakes. I had to jump a curb and avoid two signs before I went around him instead of through him. I stopped my truck in front of him to give him some "pointers".. but the little millenial turd took off as soon as I got out of the truck. I couldn't have missed him by more than 6 ft. No warning or extra braking. I take some blame for accelerating through a yellow light... but I do not trust the PCS at all.

    I also got a false braking warning from a car in a turn lane adjacent to the lane I was driving in. Whole dash display lit up red and there was no problem.
     

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