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Recall: Pre-Collision System (PCS)

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by OR18TRD, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Apr 12, 2019 at 3:17 PM
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    Mr Badwrench

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    Second recall so far :rain: Still enjoy the truck, but damn.
     
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  2. Apr 12, 2019 at 3:19 PM
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    After all the issues with my 2017 Tacoma and now my 2018 Tundra having the cam tower leak at 7k miles and if they aren’t going to fix these issues because I put 6112/5160’s at 1.9” to sit at the pro height I won’t be a new Toyota owner for long either. I bought a new truck and an extended warranty so these issues would be fixed when they come up. I’ll sale it and go buy an older truck without all the tech that I can work on myself.
     
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  3. Apr 12, 2019 at 3:26 PM
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    What if you have larger tires? I want to go a size up. Surely they wouldn't fight me on that?!
     
  4. Apr 12, 2019 at 3:42 PM
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    Mine is pro height with 6112s and I see your logic but it's a black and white issue to the dealers. Toyota made the decision easy for them. Its modded or it isnt...
     
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  5. Apr 12, 2019 at 5:53 PM
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    That's exactly where I am with 6112s as well. I will probably end up keeping this truck for some time, but I'm not sure if I could find a dealer competent enough to work on it... So it very well may never see a dealership again, unless there's some sort of catastrophic failure.
     
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  6. Apr 12, 2019 at 6:08 PM
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    Suspension: front- Bilsein 6112 set at 1.9”; Rear- bilstein 5160 with maxtrac 1” shackel. Wheels: Method MR308 roost wheels 18x9” +18 offset. Tires: 275/70/18 Goodyear wrangler DuraTrac’s Removed front mudflaps and moved front wheel well liner forward. Bakflip MX4 Tonneau cover Line-x premium bed liner aFe CAI Rear differential breather moved behind taillight Debadged Windows tinted 20% ESP locking long box rear seat storage OEM all weather mats
    We will see... I called and scheduled an appointment for Thursday. They put me on hold to check parts and had to order some for one of the recalls. Parts will be in Wednesday. I’m going to go ahead and get my 1yr 10k service completed at that time.
     
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  7. Apr 12, 2019 at 6:40 PM
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    Yes they will. At least with this recall and anything related to the PCS
     
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  8. Apr 15, 2019 at 6:17 AM
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    35s with Kings so maybe 2" of lift.
     
  9. Apr 15, 2019 at 6:18 AM
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    I think that's a good point. Wish I'd have thought of it while I was there.
     
  10. Apr 15, 2019 at 6:24 AM
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    I know this is a silly thing to say, but I've noticed the few times during rain or snow when my radar cuts out, the thing that drives me most insane is the light on the dash being on. If they had put that light somewhere else, maybe down by the parking assist button, losing the radar wouldn't really bother me at all. I never use the adaptive cruise control anyway.
     
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  11. Apr 15, 2019 at 6:26 AM
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    I'm still a bit confused by this recall.

    If there is an issue with water ingress of the PCS sensor, why is the software update necessary, and what changes?

    Anyone know?
     
  12. Apr 15, 2019 at 8:39 AM
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    I can speculate as I've sat on quite a few ERB and RCA meetings in the past for large scale defense systems... its possible that in fleshing out the design to diagnose root cause they found additional weaknesses and coupled the solutions together with the field fix process. So we may never know because that type of tech detail will probably not be available for public release but in this example let's say they noticed the potential for leakage causing damage. The primary issue with the PCS not working correctly could be traced to a software/firmware processing issue and just required some code updates to resolve. So while it appears two items are involved in resolving the PCS errors, it may be that only one of the procedures addresses the primary root cause.
     
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  13. Apr 16, 2019 at 3:09 AM
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    This is confusing had my 2019 recall done at my oil change. I called the service manger exactly what they did? He said updated the soft ware . I asked why didn't you seal the unit ? His response And I quote Its sealed like a drum from the factory the 2019s. WTH
     
  14. Apr 16, 2019 at 5:44 AM
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    Not all units required sealing IIRC.
     
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  15. Apr 18, 2019 at 5:01 PM
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    I dropped my Tundra off at the dealer this morning. Talked with my service guy he did not say anything about not being able to preform the recalls due to lift or larger tires. I showed him my Toyota emblem and he said that was not normal. It looked like it was delaminating and was a factory defect. He said they would be able to get another one and replace it under warranty. :)eek:$450 for the emblem) I told him he could have put a pro grille on for me instead :notsure:
    They were able to complete all open recalls no problem. I also had my 10k mile service completed. I have my truck back and no open recalls. :thumbsup:
     
  16. Apr 18, 2019 at 5:03 PM
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    Also had the battery tested. So far so good.

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  17. Apr 18, 2019 at 5:21 PM
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    Good, at least some dealerships are doing what is right. Mine did the recall as well, but he did show me the bulletin as I was leaving.
     
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  18. Apr 18, 2019 at 5:22 PM
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    Consider yourself lucky
     
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  19. Apr 18, 2019 at 5:28 PM
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  20. Apr 18, 2019 at 6:01 PM
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    ACC has been around since 1991 in high end luxury cars, patented by GM. Hell, the Lexus LS series had them a looooong time ago.

    Hopefully, this recall fixes these issues.
     
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  21. Apr 18, 2019 at 6:03 PM
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    Hey guys, consider this with a grain of salt but I took my 100% stock truck in today for 10k Toyota care and to have the recall done. The service advisor I got when I got there was pretty cool and was willing to talk. He had seen a good number of Tundras come in for the recall. He was knowledgeable and knew exactly what was to be done, or if it was bad enough or not sealed correctly then he would have to order a new sensor and come back for an install. My truck was fine and just required a little silicone and the new update of the software and recalibration.

    With that being said, it was early and not real busy yet in the day. Talked to him about 10 minutes about it. He was real cool about it and basically hinted that they would not have a problem with a slight lift. They just did a Limited with a leveling kit and 1 size bigger tire and they performed the update no problem. This dealer has a big after market and accessory business across the street. In their dealer show room they have a huge area with Toytec lifts and after market wheels and tires and want you to purchase these as they are big money makers and they install them.

    He said there is a recalibration process and from what their mechanics and other dealers have said is that as long as it is about the height of the TRD Pro it is fine and will recalibrate. Anything taller than that and they start running into problems getting it to recalibrate and might not recalibrate. Sounds like 2" lift or so and you should be okay despite what Toyota corporate says.

    Hope this helps, and it sounds like every dealer is different. Probably also depends on the service advisor you get.

    For anybody that cares, or wants to know what dealer it is in TN shoot me a PM.

    I think it really comes down to dealer and service advisor!
     
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  22. Apr 18, 2019 at 6:32 PM
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    Which dealer did you take it to? Escondido?
     
  23. Apr 18, 2019 at 6:35 PM
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    I took mine in for the K0B recall and after a few hours, was told that they would have to order the 'cushion' to seal the MW radar. I asked if they did the recallibration and the service adviser said that not all vehicles have to be recallibrated. Its specific against the VIN. Really?? She continued to say that the recall is mainly to seal against moisture ingress. I thought K0B was to recallibrate the MW as the second step? I'll ask to see the bulletin when I take it in for them to seal it.

    Mine's still at the stock height for now.
     
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  24. Apr 18, 2019 at 6:53 PM
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    I absolutely T-totally L-O-V-E radar cruise control when driving on the interstate. Anyway, mine quit working once: I pulled onto an off-ramp, wiped it with a towel and presto!, it worked again. Only time I've ever had a problem. Wet snow that sticks could be an issue [or mud] or anything that is wet and sticks to the sensor, I warrant.
     
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  25. Apr 18, 2019 at 7:13 PM
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    If there are no codes for the PCS, you get the “cushion” to seal against moisture. If you are up to date on the previous recalls, there is no update for some apparently. So that’s it if everything is good. If the sensor needs replaced due to a code in the system, it needs recalibrated, and might need the cushion if the new unit does not have a vent. :stirthepot: So recall every Taco and Tundra due to a troublesome PCS issue(I do believe it is a water intrusion problem...), deny the recall for lifted, changing the original grille, and any other mods. But it will be noted. :stirthepot:
     
  26. Apr 18, 2019 at 7:30 PM
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    I hear what you're saying but my dealer checked to see that my truck was not lifted in anyway and had the same size tires. I was told that if i had lifted it or installed any aftermarket parts that affected the height, they would not even attempt to apply the recall which would have meant not even applying the seal.
     
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    Yes, sir.
     
  28. Apr 19, 2019 at 1:00 PM
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    Hmm.. wonder if they will give me a hard time over the pro grille then
     

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