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Push Button Start 2020 issue

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by Spakylpm, Apr 22, 2020.

  1. Jul 19, 2020 at 6:41 AM
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    I had two different limited 4runner that did this. I learned to take my time lining things up before a start.
     
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  2. Jul 19, 2020 at 7:57 AM
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    I too did it once when I was too fast in pressing the button and brake. I was wondering why when I put it in drive it wasn't moving and was super quiet. I was used to the Prius I had which was quick. I think it might be the activation point of the brake pedal is different. The brake pressed before turning on the car was never an issue for me, since I always had manual transmission cars that needed to depress the clutch before turning the ignition.
     
  3. Jul 19, 2020 at 8:27 AM
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    I stand corrected, English may be my language but that doesn't mean I'm good at it.:(
     
  4. Jan 18, 2021 at 7:03 PM
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    Dammit, I’ve had the same issue three- four times on my 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro with on 8,000 miles. The latest it got stuck and it sounds like a bad starter would when turn key over. Ignition light came on dash as well. Going the head to dealership tomorrow. My salesman said he’s heard of the problem with Highlanders.
     
  5. Jan 18, 2021 at 8:05 PM
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    Every vehicle with push button start has a procedure for starting it with a dead fob battery. It's always a certain spot that you touch the fob to while you press the start button. In Toyotas you hold the fob right by the start button. On BMWs there's a certain spot on the steering column. The Chevy Volt has a spot in the center console where you lay the fob. I assume it's an NFC chip or something similar. In any case, you hold the fob in that spot and the vehicle will start dead fob battery or not.

    FYI, this isn't exactly correct. It's not an issue of holding it so close that it has power to start it, and there's no urgency to change the battery as soon as it happens. You can actually take the battery out of the fob completely, and if you put it in the specified spot, the vehicle will start. Yes, I've actually tried this with all 5 push button starts I've owned - including the Tundra. No car maker is going to let customers be stranded over a dead coin cell battery in their remote.
     
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  6. Jan 18, 2021 at 8:15 PM
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    Yup, that's correct. Putting the fob next to the push button start allows the chip to be read which requires no power from the fob.
     
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  7. Jan 19, 2021 at 5:57 AM
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    The key switch is a switch and so is the push button. The key switch also has to communicate with the fob to start, just like the push button. The biggest difference is with key start you do not have to have your foot on the brake to start.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2021 at 6:07 AM
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    I've 'experienced' this, but honestly, every time it's been operator error (e.g., I'm jumping in, mashing the brake, and stabbing the go button all at the same time.)

    The fix: I slow down and press the brake first. :p
     
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  9. Jan 20, 2021 at 1:12 PM
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    I dont know about tundras , but on my nisaan 370z that is very common problem and the culprit is small switch up on pedal which is depressed when yoyu press pedal telling it that it is depressed. when the connections get carbon buildup on them then that signal doesnt gets to computer like if pedal isnt pressed. im sure theres same logic going through your brake pedal which sends signal that pedal is depressed, that could be the issue since you press the power button and it cycles through ignition to on like if pedal isnt depressed. try pumping the pedal few times whenever it happens next and if that solves issues you would know that some switch up under the dash on pedal is problem.
     
  10. Jan 20, 2021 at 1:27 PM
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    Just going to leave this here:


    How do I operate the push button start and accessory power in my vehicle?
    To start the engine, make sure you have the Smart Key inside the vehicle and the shifter is in PARK. Then, hold the brake pedal down while you press the ENGINE START/STOP button.

    To turn the engine off, put it in PARK, then press the ENGINE START/STOP button.

    If you want to use the audio system without starting the engine, leave your foot OFF the brake pedal and press the ENGINE START/STOP button once.

    To use other accessories like the windows or climate control without starting the car, press the button a second time. The instruments will light up.

    To turn off ALL power, leave your foot off the brake, and press the ENGINE START/STOP button one more time.
     
  11. Feb 20, 2021 at 10:32 AM
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    I bought a brand new 2020 Tundra Trd and have had this exact issue happen to me 3 times. I have a push to start button and sometimes when I auto start my truck, I will push the brake down and feel it be really tight, push the button and it doesn't turn over just goes into accessory and keeps telling me to push the brake. Changed batteries in both key fobs, I think its some issue with the truck tbh. Plus the key fobs are straight trash, they barley work.
     
  12. Feb 20, 2021 at 11:24 AM
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    I have a 2020 TRD Tundra. I’ve experienced the same issue several times. I took it to dealership and they couldn’t duplicate it. So I video taped it on my phone. Just need to find time go back. I hear it’s a common problem with Highlanders. Hopefully this helps get a fix. I tried uploading the video but it not allowing me to.
     
  13. Feb 20, 2021 at 12:34 PM
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    I also have a 2020 and have experienced what I think is the same thing. When it happened I called Toyota care and they just wanted to send a tow truck, so I called the dealer talked to one guy (no help) he handed me off to a different guy. Then after my explanation of the problem he said to push down hard on the brake, when I did push harder the pedal then moved down farther towards the floor and the push button starter properly started the truck.
     
  14. Feb 23, 2021 at 6:05 AM
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    I have the same thing happening with one strange addition. It happens after i remote start the truck. When i open the door the truck stays running which is not supposed to happen. One time i shut off the truck and tried to restart and it didnt start but went to accessory and had the brake start symbol, brake pedal was tight. The second time i tried to shift out of park and when i moved the shifter the truck shut down. I removed the battery cable to reset everything to start the truck. I'll video the issue for the dealership and see where it goes. Keeping the 10mm in the truck for now but it isnt a permanent solution.
     
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  15. Feb 23, 2021 at 12:36 PM
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    Please keep us posted, so 1 of the times this happened, I had the same exact issue where I auto started the truck opened the door and it didn't turn off like usual. Seems like we have the same issue. Going to call the dealer as well, hoping they're familiar with this!
     
  16. Mar 2, 2021 at 8:51 AM
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    Dealership took a look and logged the issue but didn’t do anything. Hope it doesn’t happen again but if anyone gets a resolution from a dealer please let me know so I can give it to my dealership.
    Thanks
     
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  18. Mar 2, 2021 at 9:06 AM
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    Thank you for the update! Upset that they don't have a solution :(
     
  19. Mar 17, 2021 at 11:45 AM
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    So here’s a my current situation with my 2020 TRD PRO Tundra with 8,300 miles. I originally posted on my issue starting my truck with the push start button. I recorded the starting issue a couple of times and provided my dealership copies. They were finally able to duplicate the starting issue a couple of times. My truck has been at the dealership since March 4, 2021 and zero answer on why or a fix. A Toyota field tech is scheduled to come inspect my truck today March 17, 2021. My local dealership has been working with engineers from Toyota for weeks tearing things apart for the cause. I’m frustrated as hell that I’m going on three weeks without my brand new truck. My truck and I are the test pigs it feels like! I asked for a loaner truck and I was told that I didn’t qualify for one. I called Toyota care department and opened up a case and still haven’t had any promising news yet. I was told by case manager that the field technician was scheduled to inspect my truck. Texas Lemon Law is in hands reach..... I shared my concerns that if you can’t figure out issue they need to buy it back from me! I know there’s enough of us with the same issue to make movement! I’ll keep you posted as more information is given.
     
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  20. Mar 18, 2021 at 9:49 PM
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    Update on my 2020 Toyota TRD PRO Tundra push start button issue. So I picked up my truck today and I was told that they replaced my fuel pump. Apparently the fuel pump pressure test didn’t hit the 28-31 psi which is recommended. So my fuel pump was deemed bad and was replaced at 8,400 miles. My service advisor also mentioned that there was a recall on Tundra fuel pumps and he was surprised that mine failed the test since it wasn’t on the list. I was told to drive it around for three weeks and monitor the start ups. Hopefully this is the fix that I thought was the push start button getting stuck.
     
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    skamenca said:
    I have the same thing happening with one strange addition. It happens after i remote start the truck. When i open the door the truck stays running which is not supposed to happen. One time i shut off the truck and tried to restart and it didnt start but went to accessory and had the brake start symbol, brake pedal was tight. The second time i tried to shift out of park and when i moved the shifter the truck shut down. I removed the battery cable to reset everything to start the truck. I'll video the issue for the dealership and see where it goes. Keeping the 10mm in the truck for now but it isnt a permanent solution.



    Same thing happened first time this AM...
     
  22. Mar 19, 2021 at 4:41 PM
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    Well let’s see what three weeks look like... I’m supposed to return so they can reinstall my TRD cold air intake that I purchased and they installed at 1200 miles. Let’s keep fingers crossed
     
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    Following this thread now. I know exactly what you have gone through. I just didn’t read all the thread to see if there was a solution. I took it to the dealership and they played dumb. Couldn’t understand or figure it out. I ended up with a new battery at 5000 miles.
    This has happened to me 3 times. All last between 15 and 30 minutes before it reset itself and allowed me to finally start my truck. Have you found an issue or solution here?
     
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    No resolution... they replaced my fuel pump on Thursday3/18/21 since a field specialist recommended it as the source to my starting issue. On Friday 3/18/21 truck started up fine but when I hit 40mph my truck started jerking back and forth like it wasn’t getting any fuel with a full tank of gas. I punched the gas pedal to 55mph and the issue stopped. I drive straight to dealership and dropped truck off. That evening I get a call that my truck was ready and they had to relearn the shifting and air intake. Drive it home with no problems. On Saturday morning truck started up fine but once again when I hit 40 mph it started jerking again back and forth. I gave it more gas to 55mph plus and it stopped jerking. Straight to the dealership again and dropped it off. Apparently another call to the field specialist for recommendations and direction. I called Toyota customer care department and shared my concerns.... my truck has been in their hands since March 4, 2021. Engineering department still can’t figure it out on my dime! Frustrated as hell and discouraged I told case manager to have them just buy my truck back and I can move on! Love my truck I can’t drive or enjoy. My 2018 TSS never had any problems! I’ll keep you posted resolution or out come.
     
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    I just had this happen last week. It only happened once and I can't replicate it. Remote started the truck, opened door and it kept running. I turned it off at that point and the dash was telling me it didn't recognize the key (can't remember exactly what it said). I walked away from the truck, walked back to it, remote started it, opened the door, and like it is supposed to do, it turned off as I opened the door. Restarted (this time it recognized the key fob) and I was on my way.
     
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    So I am trying to determine if colder weather has a factor in this. Both times for me it has been below freezing. I remote start it, go to climb in and it doesn’t turn off the truck. So I mash the brake, and hit the button and then it turns off. At that point it doesn’t turn back on until I do what you did, walk away from the proximity and when I return it will start.
     
  27. Mar 22, 2021 at 6:39 AM
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    It was below freezing when this happened to me too.
     
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    If it isn't LED interference or dead FOB batteries another factor could be the FOB signal is being blocked by your wallet or phone. I have this issue when my key is in the same pocket as my wallet; my wallet has RF blocking mesh in it. I would eliminate this as a variable before having the goons at the Toyota dealership look at the vehicle.
     
  29. Mar 22, 2021 at 11:58 AM
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    I've had this happen to me once, after using the remote start the truck stayed running and then had this problem.

    I did have LED bulbs installed inside and out at the time.

    My battery also came up with a Bad cell shortly after and had to be replaced

    Only way I got it to start was after 10+ minutrws messing with it(trying to jumpstart with cables on wife's car). Finally I touched key fob the button and it started
     
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    This is happening to me right now. Looks like im disconnecting the battery
     

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