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PSA - Rotate those tires!

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by Jernik, Dec 13, 2020.

  1. Dec 13, 2020 at 8:37 AM
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    Jernik

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    Just did my first oil change and tire rotation in my Tundra. 6200 miles was a bit further than I wanted to go on the first OC, but I just ran out if time before our trip home around Thanksgiving. Since then, it's just been finding time around other commitments to do it.

    Anyway, all went well until I started rotating the tires. Not sure if this is solely related to the black rims that are part of the TSS package that is installed in this region or if it affects others, but I already had rust and corrosion starting to weld these rims to the rotors! Mostly it was just around the center hole, but I had a helluva time getting the RF wheel to come loose. I hate to think if I'd waited until the next OC to do it - I might not have gotten it to come off.

    All I had was some PB Blaster, so I used that to clean up the rust and rest of the area as good as I could. Will definitely be getting some anti-seize to apply at the next rotation.

    So don't skip those rotations, especially if you have the black rims from the TSS package. I was really surprised by this - my truck has not been in a corrosive environment (no trips to the beach, no treated roads in snow up north, nothing even mildly extreme, other than I guess our typical high humidity). Build date was mid February 2020, so it was only 10 months to rust/corrode at this level.

    Anyone else see this, or have recommendations better than anti-seize to prevent it?
     
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  2. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:10 AM
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    Texas, probably Gulf Coast. Chemicals only very rarely applied to roads, no environmental exposure to salt.

    Since the wheels are alloy(?), and the hub is iron, I'm thinking any corrosion is from the hub and not the wheel. I suppose you could have some weird kind of galvanic corrosion happening, but not commonly a problem. Center fit on Toyota wheels can be tight.

    If I had the problem, I would try that old northern favorite:

    https://www.amazon.com/Fluid-Film-A...ywords=fluid+film+spray&qid=1607878253&sr=8-9

    Mask off the rotors. Spray just the "hat" around the lugs. Realize that anything applied to the hub fit will probably reduce the clearance more, but hopefully FF will prevent the corrosion and sticking. Not responsible for any "sling-off" mess on your wheels, just don't overdo the spray.

    I would not apply anti-seize to lugs. Anti-seize may reduce the torque resistance, and the tire store may impact wrench your lug nuts right to "twist off". Light oiling is the only concession I would make to resisting lug corrosion. That, and using a quality torque wrench.
     
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  3. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:16 AM
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    thearborbarber

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    We have rust in our area and I put this on anything I am looking to take off again.

    anti seize.jpg
     
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  4. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM
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    The center hub was definitely tight, and that is where all the orange rust/corrosion was. My thought was to just put anti-seize around the hub and flat mating surface between rim/rotor - the lugs were fine.

    I'll look into that fluid film too. Don't want this area to become a major problem.
     
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  5. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:37 AM
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    Just the act of regular rotation will open up the clearances gradually over time. It's unlikely this will become a major problem. Frankly, I would probably do nothing because anything you add to the hub surfaces may accumulate and potentially become part of a more annoying and expensive "rotor warp" problem. Probably a good practice to clean those hub surfaces of corrosion every time you have the wheels off.
     
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  6. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:40 AM
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    I have, new from the dealer, black alloy wheels on my 2017. I've never had a problem and have rotated the wheels 4 times.

    And now the lawyer part >>>> YMMV.
     
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  8. Dec 13, 2020 at 1:06 PM
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    It could just be a one off thing from the factory , like something getting between the hub and the wheel when it was put on that caused the rust .
     
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  9. Dec 13, 2020 at 1:15 PM
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    This .light coat on the hub of the rim itself and around all the studs where the rim contacts the rotor. Living in the salt belt every little bit helps. i use it always.Fluid Film would work also
     
  10. Dec 13, 2020 at 3:08 PM
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    Running 5 months of the year where they treat the roads will mess up a vehicle pretty quick. Without doing something to provide some protection leads to some nasty rust issues. I have used fluid film and other products for years when rotating the wheels.

    I love every thing about winter except what it does to my vehicles!!
     
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