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Posi-Taps vs T-Taps

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Joe333x, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. Jan 7, 2020 at 2:29 PM
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    Going to be doing some wiring for pop-lock tailgate and also some lights in the cap. I've never used posi-taps but they seem to be very popular but they also seem to be much more expensive that t-taps. Wondering if the posi-taps are really worth the extra cost and why?
     
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    What the difference between the OEM kit and then pop and lock kit? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LST3022/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_2MqfEbWRD27QW I haven't bought one yet since I'm waiting for my topper to be installed and am going to do the topper pop and lock at the same time.
     
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    No tapping or splicing wires. It also has a grommet so you just pop one out and pop this one in.

    Here’s the included instructions
     

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  6. Jan 8, 2020 at 8:35 AM
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    Does this Oem kit work with the smart keys on the 2020’s?
    When it says it will work with the existing key fob, does that mean the unlock and lock buttons will work for all 4 doors and the tailgate at the same time or is there a pattern of clicks you need to use or something like that?
    I just picked up my new 2020 SR5 TRD off-road crewmax last night and the dealer had never heard of the OEM lock, said no that must be after market but I knew people on here said OEM was out there. Surprised it’s not well known.
     
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    The kit is 2018+

    The tailgate locks and unlocks with the passenger door basically.

    The kit just came out earlier this year. From my experience, usually the dealer doesn't know whats available.
     
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    I've used both over my years. Lately, I push for Posi-taps when you can swing for them. Better contact and seal of wires. Problem is you have to plan ahead. Haven't found them locally.

    I've also had no problems with basic T-Taps when you double check and ensure they're used correctly ... Tho I've had folks t-tap a project then nothing works because the tap didn't puncture the wire for contact. Or it cuts the wire completely thru and the wire pulls back out.
     
  10. Jan 8, 2020 at 9:21 AM
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    I believe the connectors are the same but I dont know that anyone has tried it yet. The other PNP harnesses work 2014+ so I'd guess this one does as well. If I knew someone with an older truck, I could try mine on theirs first quick before putting it in my truck.
     
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  12. Jan 8, 2020 at 11:24 AM
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    PosiTap fan here. They don't destroy the wire insulation you are tapping like a T-tap does. Easy to remove if you want to in the future with minimal damage to the wire you tapped. Posi-Taps are much more forgiving if you want to test wires for an application. I always keep an assortment of sizes on hand when needed.
     
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    I wondered the same for my 2015. I just went with @KTJO 4x4 kit because I got no response. Most were newer models that have it.
     
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    The OEM Kit is Aftermarket but it is OEM because Toyota is making it and it is stamped by them. All of the dealerships are not fully aware of the kit yet so that is probably why your dealership had no idea. It is a great kit. Very expensive, but it is a good kit. It does work with the key fob, especially if it is like the New Tacoma One they just came out with. Toyota is finally stepping up their game and offering this package. Why it has to be an aftermarket when I truly believe it should be part of the locking mechanism of our trucks, I don’t know. It is a safety feature that provides safety to our trucks. I mean, Toyota will run ad after ad about the Tacoma’s getting their tailgates stolen, but then they still don’t want to offer this as a stock factory part. Anyhow, long story short, yes to your questions. To your last question, no there is no pattern. It hooks up to the passenger locking mechanism and locks and unlocks with it. Now that’s if it again is the same as the Tacoma. Now if it is not the same as the Tacoma’s, then someone sold my exact Kit to Toyota and they basically copied my Kit because their Kit is pretty identical to mine. They just added some pretty factory grommets and put a nice little factory price tag on it that is pricier than mine. Then they charge you double for installing it for you. It is OEM though.

    You can check my kit out on here as well. It is in my signature and I’d be glad to answer any questions you may have.
     
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    Posi that is why they cost more...
     
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    Installed my OEM kit today. I’d highly recommend it. It’s a few dollars more than others, but the quality (especially shielding and connectors) are far worth the extra cost.
     
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    I couldn't believe how idiot proof posi taps are the first time I tried them and they are now my go-to for minor wiring jobs. Reversibility puts them ahead of everything else for me.

    When I had my dash out to replace a head unit a couple years ago I realized my intermittent backup cam problems had been due to the installer connecting it to the head unit wire using the wrap-and-tape wiring method, and the connection came lose. I re-did it using posi-taps in about 5 minutes and have had zero problems since. Made me especially irritated that someone I paid money to install the camera couldn't be bothered with something so easy, even if they didn't feel they had the space to solder.
     
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    Thanks wasn't aware that there a was a 3rd option besides Pop&Lock and OEM branded Pop&Lock. I'd rather support a forum member than buy the oem kit, so the only thing different is the grommet they include? What is it just a the same grommet that already has a hole in it?
     
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    No grommet is needed. You can drill a small hole into the plastic cover that exits the lower tailgate and the do the same for the plastic cover at the back of the bed (see picture below). The grommet under the cab where you feed the wire in at the passenger kick panel is already there on your truck, just cut a small slit to feed the wire through. The kits are all basically the same. I'd rather support a member here as well over a corporation.
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    Thanks for the recommendation. I installed the OEM kit last night and its a well put together kit, once it's all done it looks stock. The most time consuming part was zip tying the wire along the existing harness. The actuator is pretty quiet, I know people have complained about ones from other kits being loud. I just order my pop and lock kit for my leer topper and will just tie into the wires from the tailgate and I'll be good to go.
     
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    This one is super quiet compared to others I’ve seen.

    I used an excessive amount of zip ties and I think I still had half of them left. They went a little overkill but I’d rather have too many than not enough
     
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    Same here, I initially started to follow the directions for where to put the zip ties but once I got going I just did my own thing and had a bunch left over.
     
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    I ordered the OEM kit through my dealer after they agreed to match the cheapest price I could find online. It just arrived today so now I'll add it to the pile of upgrades waiting for me when the weather warms up or I find a nice warm garage to borrow.
    I also just ordered a lomax cover so the lock can at least wait until the cover is installed.
    How long should I plan for an installation time just in case I get motivated to try it outside if we get a mild winter day?
     
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    I see you're in Mass too, I did mine yesterday since it was 40 out, I was hoping to get it done before it got dark but didn't start til 4pm and by the time I cleaned everything up and put everything away it was 8. I wasn't in a rush and am very OCD but I'd say at least set aside 2 hours. Installing the actuator in the tailgate is very easy and quick and so is installing the harness under the passenger kick panel. The most time you spend is routing the wire and zip tying it up. Make sure to wear safety glasses, My truck only has 2000~ miles on it and had dust and dirt falling on me while routing the wire. Luckily I had a head lamp so I worked through being in the dark. The instructions say to remove the heat shield but is definitely not necessary, just wear gloves since it's sharp.
     
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    Depending on your OCD level, 1-2 hours. I tested mine about 4 times before running and securing everything
     
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