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PO418 on a 2011 Tundra, would you keep driving it???

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Aron9000, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Sep 1, 2018 at 1:28 AM
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    Aron9000

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    Well I got the check engine light on Thursday, took it to Advance Auto after work, PO418, Secondary Air Injection Pump/Valve. Anyways, the Secondary Air Injection system on 2nd gen Tundras, both 4.6 and 5.7 V8's(Maybe 4.7 V8's too, not sure) is a POS part that fails with certantity. Good news is Toyota warranty's this part to 10 years/150,000 miles on 2007-2011 Tundras. I saw the TSB, if it throws this particular P0418 code, you get free work done under the extended warranty, new Secondary Air Injection system.

    Truck runs fine, no power loss, no bullshit, it runs great, just the check engine light is on.

    Anyways, the timing of this bullshit could not be worse for me. It happened on Thursday, August 30th, when I got off work around 6pm. Took it to Advance Auto, had them scan it, P0418, looked it up when I got home, by then it was past 7pm. Called dealer first thing in the morning, I had several places I needed to be on Friday, couldn't drop it off and deal with it then.

    Booked up completely for Saturday. Monday of course its a holiday. Tuesday I have tickets for August Burns Red in St. Louis, 320 miles away, planning to take my truck. Stay the night, fuck around in St Louis for a bit, visit a friend, return home later that next night on Wednesday the 5th.

    Anyways, would you do a 700 mile trip with the truck throwing this code? I'm kind of hesitant, as some people with the secondary air pump problem have said their truck went into limp mode. Others said they drove around with this code present for years with no problems.

    Looking into renting a car tomorrow. Thing is, I think they are going to charge me for 2 days instead of 1 if I rent it from like 10:00am Tuesday till like 6-7pm Wednesday. Rental cars like everything else in Nashville can be stupid expensive(really wish I didn't live in a tourist trap).
     
  2. Sep 1, 2018 at 4:38 AM
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    I would have no issue driving it.

    As long as you have good air pumps, it won't go into "limp" mode. That code involves the valves.

    When you have it serviced, make it clear that you do not want the re flash on ECU. If they flash the ECU, you can't do the bypass mod.

    I've had my pumps/valves bypassed for 5 years.

    Whatever you do, don't clear the code. The dealer can't get approval from Toyota to do the work if there is no code present.

    You don't say what year your truck is. 2013 all Tundras got the updated ECU program.
     
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  3. Sep 1, 2018 at 5:29 AM
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    Fix it, bypass it. This is worth the extra money to never have this issue again.
     
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  4. Sep 1, 2018 at 7:41 AM
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    Is there a particular kit that you'd recommend?
     
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  5. Sep 2, 2018 at 6:33 PM
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    Truck's a 2011, 4.6 V8, 4wd. And I have to pass emissions checks around here, I'd rather just let the dealer fix it and put in the improved parts, this is a free fix from what the TSB states. I don't want to get into trouble reflashing the PCM and deleting emissions parts.
     
  6. Sep 2, 2018 at 6:49 PM
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    Sorry about your code, but I'd be stoked about going to ABR! Enjoy!
     
  7. Sep 2, 2018 at 6:53 PM
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    Jim LE 1301

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    Don't drive it. Since its covered under warranty made they can provide a free loaner.
     
  8. Sep 2, 2018 at 7:51 PM
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    I'm thinking I might rent a car, going to be $30-70. At least whatever I rent probably gets double the gas mileage vs the truck(15mpg vs 30mpg).
     
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    Let Toyota fix it for free.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2018 at 4:06 PM
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    Going to, just can't get it to the dealer before my trip.
     
  11. Sep 6, 2018 at 3:13 PM
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    Took the truck into Beaman Toyota today. It was the air injection pump/system. 100% covered by Toyota, lady said it was $4500 worth of bullshit fairy dust farts that clean the exhaust. I'm very interested to see the invoice as to what all they replaced, parts prices, labor, etc. $4500 is just insane IMO, I mean a 90's Chevy truck, you can get a whole new engine installed for $1500-2000, parts and labor.

    Rocking a Kia Soul rental right now. It has 140 hamsters of fury under the hood, you gotta watch out or she can get away from you real quick lol. Actually I'm kind of impressed, this thing has 40,000 hard miles on as a rental, its beat to crap, yet not a squeak or rattle to be found.
     
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  12. Oct 1, 2018 at 7:00 AM
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    Morning,

    New member with 2010 Tundra 4.7L engine. I got check engine light, 138,000 miles, autozone checked it and it gave P0418 code. Not in limp mode.
    Reading about this type issue for years, it seems Toyota is now covering some older cars for 10/150,000 warranty.

    Question.
    It was mentioned to not let the dealer "re-flash" the ECU, or you would not be able to do the Bypass -- If I'm going to get the warranty work down, I wanted to make sure I understood,
    What do I need to be careful about If they will do the Fix under warranty? Thanks in advance
     
  13. Oct 1, 2018 at 8:02 AM
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    I’m sorry that I misssd this. I get a “few” notifications per day.

    I would contact this guy if you want to be done with this system forever:

    https://www.hewitt-tech.com/store/i...Vzm-bQLl1AVpmDGHDOcK6v3INOk7Kg4UaAr7yEALw_wcB

    I have talked to the owner about 4 years ago. Very honest and legit. If he can help, he will. Since I had the update at the time on my 12’ Tundra, nothing he could do, but was working on solving that problem.

    I would also call or contact the people in the above link. They can give you no BS answer.
     
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  14. Oct 1, 2018 at 9:56 AM
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    I called Hewitt and spoke with Becky. She was very nice and Smart. I hope they make several Billion for fixing toyota's issues.
    I did not realize the 2012 5.7L engine had a different twitch when it comes to this issue.

    I have the 2010.

    Thanks so much for your help.

    God Bless
     
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  15. Oct 1, 2018 at 10:58 AM
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    No problem. That’s what the site is for.
     

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