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P&P Engineering Sliders for Crewmax.

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by lawfarm, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. Aug 24, 2018 at 2:43 PM
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    lawfarm

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    I picked up a set of the P&P Engineering Rock Sliders; type 4.


    These feature 1/4" steel plates that bolt to the side of the frame rails, using stock holes. They do not bolt to the bottom of the rails and do not need to be welded on; after seeing how beefy they are, I don't think either of those points are detrimental. Where they bolt to the frame, the vertical frame wall is sandwiched between two plates of steel that are each 1/4" thick, and it is bolted on with five 5/8" grade eight bolts. They're beef.


    The frame of the sliders is comprised of 2x2" steel, with 1/4" plate gussets.


    The outer rail is 1.75" DOM tubing. I picked the P&P sliders in particular because of their use of DOM instead of ERW, as DOM is greatly stronger. I selected steps that had full top plating, and were sent bare. I cleaned them, hit them up with an appropriate self-etching primer, and then painted them with Rustoleum spray bedliner. The texture is nice--not "tear you up if you rub them", but there's a little grip on the steps.


    As far as beef goes, you can jack up the whole side of the truck from the steps, with immeasurable deflection. It's impressive.


    For customer service, P&P was incredibly conversant before and during the purchase, with helpful and personable support. When I experienced an issue during installation, the owner actually STOPPED BY MY HOUSE on his way out to the FJ Summit a few weeks ago. I was shocked by that one--truly great service.


    Installation took 45 minutes. Because I have long fingers, I was able to install this without dropping my full steel fuel tank skids. I never seized the bolts and cranked them down. The e-brake bracket on the driver's rear has to be bent a bit to clear, but that was easily done. On the passenger side, inside the frame rail, I had to move the brake lines a bit to get the steps installed, but the lines went right back to place when the plates were in. Twas easy, and all of the brackets were square, properly drilled and easy to install. Of note, the plates that go inside the frame rail included a piece of steel tubing welded in their center hole that goes through the frame rail and into the outer mounting bracket, for super-beef installation.


    Side view:

    [​IMG]IMG_0063


    Front of the front mounting bracket (2 of 3 of the bolts):

    [​IMG]IMG_2541


    Rear of front mounting bracket, and rear 2 mounting brackets:

    [​IMG]IMG_5446


    Closer view:

    [​IMG]IMG_9567


    Narrower by front door:

    [​IMG]IMG_7858


    Wider by rear door:

    [​IMG]IMG_5257


    [​IMG]IMG_6544


    If you look in that last picture, you'll see that they have some of the very best "complete" coverage between wheel wells of any sliders...another reason I picked them!


    Super happy so far!
     
  2. Aug 24, 2018 at 3:48 PM
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    Those look great!!!
     
  3. Aug 24, 2018 at 4:22 PM
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    Looks good. Cost details?
     
  4. Aug 24, 2018 at 4:57 PM
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    Yeah. How much coin
     
  5. Aug 24, 2018 at 6:25 PM
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    $950, including shipping or free installation at their shop. They run specials, though. The price also includes some customization, like the full tread plate on top of mine.
     
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  6. Aug 24, 2018 at 9:17 PM
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    Price is right IMO. Where is the shop located? Sorry if I missed it.
     
  7. Aug 25, 2018 at 5:29 AM
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    Those look awesome. Good job!
     
  9. Aug 25, 2018 at 8:51 AM
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    Mine were the first set they made for the Tundra back in 2016. Still holding up well.

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    Dang, nice looking truck ^^^
     
  11. Sep 4, 2018 at 7:01 PM
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    Looking good installed.

    I (P&P) have a couple pairs of these in stock.


    I've got an answer to your email coming your way today was doing some research on your winch.
     
  12. Sep 4, 2018 at 7:09 PM
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    Sounds great--and thanks for the continuing awesome service!
     
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    Perhaps I don't have a full understanding of how these attach, but without the underwrap and those bolt holes fairly high, these look quite weak from a structure design point of view. I hope that's not the case as I really like other parts of the design.
    From what I can tell, they would be quite.stong in the downward direction but weak from forces upwards.
     
  14. Dec 29, 2018 at 6:04 AM
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    It’s hard to see in the photos, but the mounting plates are essentially the height of the frame rail and the bolts are in the middle. Between the size of the plates and the size of the backing plates on the inside of the frame, they’re quite beefy. There’s very, very little deflection, holding half of the truck by the sliders. There are other brands with similar mounting, and from what I understand, PP has used this design for quite a while.
     
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  15. Jan 3, 2019 at 9:42 AM
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    They are quite strong and well proven taking a hit. We have dozens and dozens out in the field. The line of actions between the legs and bolts is small, the clamping force provided by the large bolts used is more than adequate for the application. And they are gusseted to above the bolt holes which changes your effective line of action away from the bottom weld of the leg.

    Wrapping under the frame would necessitate drilling into the frame and with Toyota's history of frames rusting its something we try to avoid.
     
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  16. Jan 17, 2019 at 11:06 AM
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    They look great and install info seems easy. Any idea if these will fit a new 2019 Tundra TRD Pro?
     
  17. Jan 17, 2019 at 11:32 AM
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    Mark, yes the frame is still the same. We’ve had 2019 fitment confirmation for some time.

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    We’ve got some in progress today.

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    Attached is the rough draft of our 2nd/3rd gen rock slider install guide. Being a rough draft theres likely grammar errors, spelling mistakes and omissions. Feel free to provide feedback as it will only help make it better.
     

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  20. Jun 12, 2019 at 8:21 PM
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    Thanks for the install guide as I didn’t know the torque specs were 150 ft/lbs and 75 ft/lbs
     
  21. Jun 13, 2019 at 8:18 AM
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    Deff put this in the wrong place. Oops.
     
  22. Jun 13, 2019 at 8:57 AM
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    You can always look up the torque spec charts of any bolt on the internet.
     

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