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OVTune 3URFE Tundra ECU Tune Development Thread

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by OVTune, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Dec 11, 2020 at 7:48 AM
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    OVTune

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    For trucks we cannot get our new method working, we still have our old method that works perfect.
    toyota modified their code too many times, it's been a challenge. Full disclosure if I had known toyota changed things so significantly from 09 to 14 to 17, I would not have made the features. For some trucks the only way we are going to get it fully working is having some long term testers / people who can test multiple versions relatively quickly.


    I haven't been posting here much but I have been working this whole time
    - for example cold weather testing on flex fuel for the trucks that lose all throttle control (fixed by updating to toyotas 0CM52 released file)
    - preparing support for toyotas release 0CN62 (tune files)
    - tune appointments
    etc etc
     
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  2. Dec 11, 2020 at 8:40 AM
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    I'm with you on the buying part. I don't see the option to purchase it on the website. But im on my phone and not tech savvy either, not even sure how much it costs. Maybe a fellow member will chime in to help us out. :anonymous:
     
  3. Dec 11, 2020 at 9:03 AM
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    The Tundra vF Tuner free upgrade link isn't on our website, because people who were purchasing it weren't customers. Trying to get a freebie I guess, or might have been confused.


    Send us an email we can direct you to the link.


    A lot of how it works will be described in great detail on our forum. forum.vftuner.com So it doesn't confuse things with what's going on here
     
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    Ok, I've done more readings on my spare time, hopefully they will have a simple link to pdf that I found explain what, where and how.

    - VF tuner is the OS that we download for free, to access our ECU
    - VF Tuner only works for Windows based computers, requires OBD2 port cable or somehow to access it, I think on their website there's a pre-order on the wifi version, be nice if we can order directly off them.
    - You then BUY tokens, like in Arcade for the "tune", so if you want more changes after each mod *I think* you buy more credits, I see Tundra's credit is $250 per , not sure if just one file or multiple.
    - Some Tundra ECUs allow direct shift/gear lock working, some don't
    - You can edit the fuel/ignition map yourself, this part I probably don't want to touch and mess things up.

    This thread helped me the most to understand: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/vf-tuner-for-the-3-5l-tacoma.662948/



    Part I'm not sure of"
    - Do we then send you a file of our datalog while just driving around in various throttle input position so you can provide us with an improve tune? even stock?
    - Can you do specific tune based on dyno runs with wide band O2 sensors on specific mods?
     
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  5. Dec 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM
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    - VF Tuner is software that allows you to modify the OS of your ECU, yes
    - Windows only
    - The OBDII cable everyone here already has. The "VF software + cable" comes with the cable
    - The software comes with enough credits / tokens to unlock YOUR / 1 ECU. So nobody who is a current/previous customer has to buy anything
    - Credits are for unlocking other ECUs. Say...you wanted to tune another truck with a different ID.
    - Tundra tune pack these are pre-made tune files from us that you can flash to your truck, or if you wish, modify further and then flash.
    - Correct. Direct shift / gearlock is not available on all tundras.
    - You can modify *everything*. RPM, gear, trans, ignition, fuel, valve timing ,etc etc etc

    We do not provide dyno tunes with vF Tuner. The only folks eligible for something like that would be our original tundra customers.
     
  6. Dec 11, 2020 at 9:54 AM
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  7. Dec 11, 2020 at 10:02 AM
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    Ok, will the link for purchase be listed soon? or its just under this link? https://vftuner.com/collections/vf/products/tundra-5-7l-2018-vf-tune-pack

    And for those that don't have the cable, can we purchase it from you knowing it'll work vs buying random ones off ebay?

    You said modify further, what if we don't have confidence in ourselves to modify the file you provide? can you modify it for us? and how is that charged?
     
  8. Dec 11, 2020 at 10:08 AM
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    I sent him an email as requested. I don't mind waiting on a reply. I know he is a busy guy. I see the tundra tune pack you listed is $250, wonder if we can just buy the tune, or if we need the vf tuner software as well, if its only $250 and I don't need the vf software I'll jump on that in a heartbeat! I don't plan on modifying the tune at all. So I don't need that capability.
     
  9. Dec 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM
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    I'll let him clarify on how its done, as I'm not familiar myself and want to know more too.
     
  10. Dec 11, 2020 at 11:10 AM
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    So, just to clarify. If I have VF for my 2019 Tacoma that was traded in for my 2021 tundra:

    1) Will the tune pack that I would have gotten for my Tacoma equate to a tune pack for my Tundra?

    2) Do I need to purchase anything additional?

    3) At this point 2021 tunes are not available but should be by the end of the month?

    Thanks.
     
  11. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:18 PM
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    Trucky truck has been your biggest fan and patient one for years. He even did dyno testing for you early on and that’s where I was told your dyno charts came from. I am sorry to see your response to him. I would hope you give him a session to get it fixed. I know my session with you worked out all the bugs in just a few hrs and the tune is awesome now! I would hope you can do the same for him. He’s been very helpful to many on this thread over the last year and a half.
     
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  12. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:22 PM
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    I think you are reading my response wrong. I'm not denying him any attention, session or testing he needs.

    No matter what I say or don't say you guys take it wrong every time.
    I'm saying, and have ALWAYS said we will continue to work with everyone, as much as necessary, to get them what they are looking for from their truck.

    I want to be very, very clear. Because some of you guys somehow take what I say completely wrong. ANY of our original customers can/will get any custom tuning that want or need, including 1 on 1 time, by appointment. Some ECUs we can't do gearlock and DirectShift on yet but like I said before if your truck is one of those AND you are willing to test files then we are happy to work with you.
     
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  13. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:36 PM
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    So, just to clarify. If I have VF for my 2019 Tacoma that was traded in for my 2021 tundra:

    1) Will the tune pack that I would have gotten for my Tacoma equate to a tune pack for my Tundra?

    2) Do I need to purchase anything additional?

    3) At this point 2021 tunes are not available but should be by the end of the month?

    Thanks.
     
  14. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    My truck is one of those. GL is not working but DS works fine. On the tune before this one, the GL worked perfect. I don't have a job so I'm available to test files even on east coast time.
     
  15. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:39 PM
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    Did you trade your tacoma *before* registering the software or using your tacoma tune pack? Trying to understand the "would have gotten"
     
  16. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:40 PM
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    Sorry to hear about not working, especially with everything going on. If you are willing to assist in testing let's knock it out
     
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    Personally, I think you should try reading Mat's response again, and try not to do so with your preconceived notions based on your own complaining that you've freely expressed all along. Mat didn't say or even hint that he wasn't going to help trucky-truck with any remaining problems. Mine is one of the ECUs that can't get the gearlock/direct shift options, but Mat did get me the gearlock option (which I find very useful when towing my boat in hilly terrain) via the tow/haul button option that was originally planned way back when.
     
  18. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:41 PM
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    I registered the software (I think?) in order to test a speed limiter delete file for you. I did not receive or purchase any Tacoma tune packs yet because I was waiting for the new ECU update for the new TSB and the performance 2.0 tunes to be released.

    Is there a way to check in the VFTuner software if it is registered? I’m assuming it had to be in order to flash a file.
     
  19. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:45 PM
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    If vF Tuner is not registered when you open it it will ask for your master key, and that's as far as you can go
     
  20. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:50 PM
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    It must be registered then if I was able to get through to flash the test file you sent me but I never received a tune pack. What does this mean for me then? Do I get a Tacoma tune pack from you and sell the whole thing to a Tacoma owner or can I just get a Tundra tune instead?

    When I open VFTuner and go to license information it appears to be registered and I have 5 available credits (I have never purchased additional credits so this must be the number that comes with the software).
     
  21. Dec 11, 2020 at 2:54 PM
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    if you did not purchase a tacoma tune pack then no need to buy one. vF Tuner is not vehicle specific, so it's the same vf tuner for tundra, tacoma, etc etc. if you just want the premade tunes you can buy the tundra tune pack **when released** for 2021.

    Don't open any files or you will end up using your credits. Then you'll need more for your 2021
     
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    Perfect, I’ll wait for the 2021 tunes to be released and purchase the Tundra tune pack. Thanks.
     
  23. Dec 11, 2020 at 5:35 PM
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    I could be option two. I have a run of eighteen consecutive days off coming up. Only catch is that it's because of The Holidays (18 Dec - 4 Jan) I can't imagine you'd have much free time and want to work.
     
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    I just re-read this. My understanding was that I would get a free tune pack for my Tacoma as a pre-VFTuner flash kit owner. I was wondering if that translated over to the Tundra since I never requested the pack for the Tacoma yet?

    Sorry for the confusion.
     
  25. Dec 12, 2020 at 2:10 PM
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    No it wouldn't translate to the Tundra. You get a "free" tune pack for the tacoma because it's tunes you already purchased when you bought the flash kit.
     
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    So can I flash that tune onto another Tacoma if I purchase the requisite credits or is that $390 value essentially just gone?
     
  27. Dec 14, 2020 at 6:32 AM
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    Yes you could if it also has a matching ECU ID. but that is subject to change because people have been pirating our files around. (tacoma guys mainly). You'd still be allowed to but it will be credits per vehicle in the future.
     
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    So I know this has been asked but I checked the last few pages and didn’t seem to find the answer once it was asked. So I have a 2016 Tundra 5.7 non-flex. The tune seems like it would help me with MPG and towing, am I right on that so far?

    If I want to get everything I need to get a prepackaged tune what do I need to buy? I’m not interested in tuning my own truck as I would have no idea what I’m doing. Just looking to get everything I need from you guys to get better towing and MPG.
     
  29. Dec 15, 2020 at 6:33 AM
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    Do you mind PMing me your email. I am pretty sure you are ECU ID 0CD33 but can't remember *who*




    At the moment we are still on limited - support for these older trucks until we have all ECUs in vF Tuner. You would need the vF Tuner software + cable and Tundra tune pack (if you wanted our tunes) BUT it is important to know that not all ECUs are ready/available. None of our tunes specifically create better mpg or are oriented to give better mpg.
     
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  30. Dec 15, 2020 at 6:51 AM
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    Hey Matt, few questions about VF Tuner:

    • After registering the VF Tuner Software we have to send you that info to get the tunable file, correct?
    • Once we open the file it uses those tokens/credits for that any ecm of that year/model "all 2016 5.7..ffv/gas/etc", or That specific ECM?..."CM052"
    • Can VF tuner remove codes like P0420/P0421 that we see with headers (low efficiency cat. converter)?
    • When do you expect the tuner to be released for the pre 2018 trucks?

    Thanks!
     
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