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Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by bosscib, Jan 11, 2022.

  1. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:06 AM
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    Terndrerrr

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    Yeah nope. I’ve said multiple times that if I get a 3rd gen Tundra, it will be years and years down the road.
     
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  2. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:16 AM
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    I think if you keep your foot out of it all the time the rated MPG on it is 10 city 14 Hwy....so kinda like a 2nd gen Tundra but more fun...lol
     
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  3. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:16 AM
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    It's a cool truck and if you trade every 2-3 years, the value of the Tundra is kind of wasted. Couple things to think about 11mpg's using premium fuel. and Payload and Towing are significantly lower than a normal Ram if that is important to you.
     
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  4. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:20 AM
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    Do it! Just a hair under 10k miles on my Ram and so far no issues. Its no TRX but I bought mine for towing. Don't know how the Ram will run in 100k miles but I don't regret the switch. Good luck on your decision do what makes you happy
     
  5. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:24 AM
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    My buddy had a TRX for 6months and was getting 8mpg so he now has a new truck lol
     
  6. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:26 AM
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    The TRX is one of those things you look at and ask "why did they make that"? And the only real answer is that "because they can".
     
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  7. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:42 AM
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    Do it!!!!

    Given that the Hellcat motor is going away in a couple years, that the TRX holds its value well, and it would just be an absolute riot every time you drive it…. It’s a no brainer.

    The new FCA Rams in general are much improved from the Rams of the past from a reliability standpoint.

    My Tundra at 60k miles and 4R at 30k miles have been back to the dealer MUCH more than my Jeep SRT at almost 80k miles ever did.

    As far as MPG goes, it won’t be good, but if you are buying a rig for $100k then MPG shouldn’t be a concern. Slap a blower on a Tundra, lift it, and put on 35’s and you will be in the same mpg range.

    Life is short, drive what you want and ENJOY!
     
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  8. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:52 AM
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    You trade so often that whatever you choose would work. Longevity isn’t the issue in your case, performance is. In my opinion I’d go TRX all day, it literally has everything. Right now would be the time to get one since the Hellcat motor is being discontinued. I’ve actually read that the Hemi 5.7 is going to be discontinued as well, which it’s been rumored they’re going turbo. If you find the right deal you’ll make money on it when you trade out again.
     
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  9. Jan 12, 2022 at 6:52 AM
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    At the risk of getting flamed, let me give you my personal experience.

    I'm a bit of a "truck whore" if you will. I trade every 2 years on average. My family makes fun of me. I've had every brand of truck on the market. In most cases, I've had multiple trucks from each of those brands over the last 20 years. I haul, tow, and commute in my trucks. I use them for everything you can imagine. I've been putting about 20k per year on them on average in the time I have them. I've leased brand new trucks. I've bought used trucks with 75k-130k miles on them. I do most of my own work and maintenance on them when needed. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I have a LOT of first hand experience with trucks.

    In my opinion, Ram has the best truck on the road hands down. Their interiors are perfect, especially on the 5th gen trucks. Their exteriors look the best. Build quality is fantastic. My Rams have spent the least amount of time under repair of all the brands. The features for the money is a real value too. A basic Bighorn trim with the Cold Weather Package ($995 usually) makes this SR5 Interior Upgrade package Tundra I've got now look like a joke. Rams also have the best powertrains hands down. The Pentastar is the best V6 in the segment and has been on Ward's Best Engines list in multiple years. The Hemi is legendary. The EcoDiesel 3rd Gen engine in the 2020-2022 trucks is the best light duty diesel ever made. And now you can even get the 6.2L Hemi with factory blower. The trans they use is the ZF 8HP75 which is arguably the best transmission installed in any pickup truck ever made. You can have a choice of transfer case, axle ratio, etc. too. They're just amazing trucks.

    I'd put Ford at #2 based upon reliability and features. The aluminum body was a game changer and that's the advantage the Raptor carries over the Ram TRX, curb weight. Ford is untouched when it comes to performance overall, fuel efficiency, and the shear amount of options and configurations you can get.

    If money was no object, there WOULD be another 5th Gen Ram in my driveway right now, and the TRX would get a hard look.
     
  10. Jan 12, 2022 at 7:35 AM
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    yup, truth though.

    buy the tundra, ya next thing you know your cab is off the truck with 300 miles.

    damn, I should have bought the TRX

    if you don't like the gen 3 OP, then why even bother considering it, if you don't like the truck at all, then who cares about reliability.
     
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  11. Jan 12, 2022 at 8:21 AM
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    That has been my experience with the modern Rams as well, the only thing they were lacking was resale, but in the last 2-3 years their resale is rising rapidly as the reputation of the modern Rams starts to overshadow the tired old Ram trucks are awful and transmissions suck reputation they earned with the 2nd and 3rd gen trucks.

    I don't know if I would say the Ram 8 speed is the best from a reliability standpoint, Toyota and Aisin do build a very durable transmission, but they are probably a real close second and from a performance standpoint I would agree the 8 speed is hard to beat.

    I owned one of their V6 Pentastars in a Ram and it was quick and very efficient, it was paired to the 8 speed and probably one of the best motor transmission driving experiences I have had in a truck. Toyota engine/trans mapping leaves a lot to be desired but they are durable.
     
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  12. Jan 12, 2022 at 8:25 AM
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    I couldn’t resist lol
     
  13. Jan 12, 2022 at 8:45 AM
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    Your thinking is backwards. If the vehicle had so many problems, why would they offer such a warranty? They would be losing money.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2022 at 8:52 AM
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    If you trade vehicles that often, reliability doesn't matter. Get what you want, the TRX is badass.
     
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  15. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:31 AM
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    No flaming, and I appreciate a fellow self-maintainer, but some of the statements you made are pretty much objectively wrong despite your anecdotal experiences. I disagree about the aluminum body. You have a truck with a curb weight of right under or at 5k lbs trying to handle a 12k lb trailer. No thanks at all! And they are about the least reliable of all trucks. 18.2% of F-series trucks have drivetrain issues within the first buyer’s ownership, which is an average of 136k miles. Source. That’s an average of about one in five trucks with issues. Ford also has the worst class-action lawsuit record of any automaker with a win rate of only 33%. To me, that says the lawsuits are for legitimate issues that Ford wouldn’t address without being sued. (Toyota wins 80% by comparison).

    Rams are second-worst in drivetrain issues over time at 12.6% within the first 127k miles. Source. It does seem the newer trucks have solid drivetrains (time will tell); it’s just the rest of the truck you have to worry about. I got over my Power Wagon daydreaming real quick after spending time on the Ram forums.

    Trade away, and rotate trucks every couple of years in good health. But don’t pretend that the Tundra (pre-2022 models anyway) isn’t the most reliable, longest-lasting truck currently on the road. If you trade every couple of years, I don’t know why you bought a Toyota in the first place.
    I think it is you who has it backwards. People who spend money on Chrysler/Fiat/Ram products need reassurances. Especially at the price they’re charging for a TRX. Go spend time at the Ram forums. I just read that Lifetime Max Care warranties are not transferable to subsequent owners, and if the original owner doesn’t have a specific inspection performed by the dealer every 5 years, the warranty is cancelled. Seems to me they are happy to offer a warranty that a minority of people will actually be able to take advantage of. And you and I both know that Ram knows that people aren’t going to hang onto a TRX long-term.
     
  16. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:32 AM
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    Is this an issue when you have a full flow through console like a TRX does by default?
     
  17. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:37 AM
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    This would be a great argument if any 1/2 ton trucks could realistically hook up to a 12k lb trailer without overloading the axle, hitch rating, or GVWR.

    But if there is a truck that can do it, it's a Ford, since apparently we can't actually find a Tundra with over 1500 lbs of payload. Still, I bet <50% of F150's could even with a very vigilant owner.

    But I do get your point. It's one of the reasons I own the biggest, longest heaviest half tons ever made. 6140 lb curb weight and a 157" wheelbase on my 2014 F150 and not much can move it. I've been in some insane crosswinds with my travel trailer to the point that I could see the travel trailer "dog-walking" behind me and the truck didnt care.
     
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  18. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:44 AM
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    That’s the difference between Toyota and Ford. Toyota tells you, “we don’t play the numbers game. Stick within these parameters for insanely long service life,” even though the Tundra has been demonstrated to handle far more than its ratings for extremely long times. Ford on the other hand tells you “yep this can be done” even though it’s probably unsafe.

    Edit: I do wish Toyota played a bit of that game…having 400-500lbs more payload would be ideal. I know my truck can handle it; it’s just not what’s printed on the door jamb.
     
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    Except they are all rated to J2807 for towing. While not perfect, it at least keeps them planted.

    And unless someone has been under both trucks and can show me evidence that one is substantially overbuilt vs the other, this just sounds like kool-aid drinking. Tundra being rated for 1500 lbs means it can safetly handle 2000 lbs but a Ford rated at 2300 lbs means it can only safety handle 2300 lbs? Still sounds better having the 2300 lb rating on my door sticker.
     
  20. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:50 AM
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    OP, I would get a TRX if thats what you wanna spend your money. The blown V8 and sub 4 second 0-60 times are worth it, nevermind the fantastic ride and offroad capability. I wouldn't think twice.

    A tundra is an appliance. A TRX is shenanigans at every stoplight.
     
  21. Jan 12, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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    where the heck did you find a discount on a TRX? Let me know and I’ll be trading in my tundra. Everywhere I looked you have to wait on building your own for MSRP or they mark up ones on the lot.
     
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    Regarding towing, I trust my truck to handle what Toyota says its rated at FAR more than I trust the Ford at what they say it’s rated at. Regardless of the J2807 standard, pulling that big of a trailer with that light of a truck is just not something I’m interested in.

    Regarding hauling, I’m not one of those guys who is going to do a flatbed truck camper conversion to my Tundra. There are two of those with overlanding YouTube channels that sit at 9k and 9.1k lbs with no one even in them. But they just keep trucking along. The million mile guys claim to have hauled over a ton each. Everyone abuses their Tundra. Well at least the early 2nd gens. Overbuilt and underrated. Personally, I trust my truck above its numbers to a certain point. I have a 1000lb buffer between my GVWR and the sum of my axle ratings. My truck is fine being over GVWR but under axle ratings. Ford, on the other hand, along with GM, got in trouble for falsifying payload numbers. GM did it by removing bumpers, spare tires, etc before calculating curb weight. Don’t know how Ford did it, but they were sued for it, although to be fair the lawsuit mentions the F350. Then there was the whole Raptor bent frame debacle. They put the bump stop right underneath a weight relief hole in the frame. :facepalm:Hence the lack of trust.
     
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    I would do it. Especially if you've been all Toyota for a bit. Salt of the earth and all. The TRX is an amazing truck. I was lucky enough to drive one a few months ago. INCREDIBLE. MUCH nicer truck than a Tundra. More comfort, more power, more suspension, more everything.
     
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    As someone who sits in a passenger seat of a 2020 Classic Ram 1500 - the transmission hump is BRUTAL. My left foot darn near needs to be in the center of my body its so pronounced. Ford and GM are far more comfortable for passengers (I drive my Tundra so can't comment on being a passenger lol)
     
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    I don’t know where everyone buys their Ram trucks. But the ones we have in our fleet are crap. 3 5500’s & 2 1500’s crew cab 4x4’s. Our diesels have almost, I said almost as many problems as the 6.0 power strokes. I’m not a Ford fanboy either. But our F150’s & 550’s have fewer problems than any of our Rams. I have a good friend that has a 2020 Rebel, sharp truck but he’s been in & out of the dealership 5 times so far. My 2018 Tundra no problems, 2 recalls. 1 was a they put a cover over the front thingy in the grill & the 2nd was some extra cover on the right blinker harness. I asked about the left harness & the service writer didn’t know . But what I’m saying as a supervisor I drive an 2018 F150 crew cab 4x4 everyday & I didn’t even consider a Ford or Ram when I purchased my personal vehicle. Tundra all the way. I’m not crazy about the looks of the new Tundra but I haven’t seen 1 person. But I love my 5.7 crew max 4x4 Tundra. Sorry for high jacking this thread but the experiences I’ve had with our fleet Ram trucks & friends trucks, no way would I spend that kind of money on a TRX. If I absolutely wanted a truck like that it would be a Raptor hands down.
     
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    People don't buy Rams based on warranties or reliability, they buy them because they have the best ride and interior compared to the competition. If they lost money on the extended warranties, they wouldn't offer them, it's simple business. Anything you say after that is moot.

    I have spent time at the Ram forums, HD Ram forums, F150 forums, and here (no one posts about Nissans lol), so I don't know what your point is with that.
     
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    My 2017 needs a fuel pump. My wife’s 2020 Highlander needs a fuel pump. I’m souring on Toyota, the redesign and their perceived reliability.
    I say go for it.
     
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    I’ve never heard anyone complain about the passenger seat area in mine .
    To the OP , I’ve had my Ram for a couple years now and I have had 1 recall for a drivers side floor mat . Took about 5 minutes in the parking lot .
     
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    out of curiosity do you run it below empty? Always wondered if that’s the reason they show empty when we all know there’s 6 gallons left in the tank. I can say I ran my 08 below empty many times over its 225k miles and never once had a fuel pump issue. Although I did replace the leaky water pump at 75k on the 08 and my power steering pump at 60k miles
     
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    ^^Truth^^
     
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