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**Opinion** Most reliable "American" truck manufacturer

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by joshmahoney94, Mar 16, 2017.

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Most reliable "American" truck manufacturer ?

  1. GM (GMC and Chevrolet)

    61.4%
  2. Ford

    36.4%
  3. Dodge (Ram and Dodge)

    2.3%
  1. Mar 16, 2017 at 5:05 AM
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    joshmahoney94

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    In your opinion, what traditionally American pickup manufacturer has the best reliability.

    GM (Chevrolet and GMC), Ford, Ram (Dodge and Ram)

    Personally I have had the following "american" trucks:
    1996 Chevrolet C1500
    1999 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
    2003 GMC Sonoma
    1999 Dodge Ram 1500
    2003 Ford F350

    In my opinion Chevrolet has proven itself to be more reliable than the other two.

    The Dodge was an unreliable POS, so many issues... However if I had the Cummins, the motor would have at least been robust (the transmission is another story...).

    The Ford was a VERY capable truck but it lacked in the longevity department. It was very reliable until it hit 100k Miles(Multiple issues with the engine and rear end). Then issues began popping up. However the interior accessories were all really well made and put together.

    All of the GM trucks I had hit above 200K miles before I sold them. I never had to replace any major parts on any of the trucks(No engines, Transmissions, Drivetrain parts). The interior accessories were a joke though. The dashes creaked and cracked, the door handles broke, seat lever broke, etc..

    Overall GM's powertrain seemed to be the most reliable. Of course, none of them compare to my Toyota Trucks' reliability. 1986 Toyota Pickup with 300k+ miles when I sold it for close to what my father paid for it new!!!
     
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  2. Mar 16, 2017 at 5:53 AM
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    I just look at statistics.
     
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  3. Mar 16, 2017 at 6:31 AM
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    My dad has a 2004 GMC 2500 crew cab and it has a little over 262,xxx miles on it and it still pulls like an ox and drives very nice.
     
  4. Mar 16, 2017 at 6:32 AM
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    The 7.3 Turbo diesel by Ford was a great truck. Dieseland is a different beast though than 1/2 ton's.
     
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  5. Mar 16, 2017 at 6:40 AM
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    I wish the F350 I had was the 7.3L. It was the 6.0 L diesel.
     
  6. Mar 16, 2017 at 6:51 AM
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    Are you looking at picking one of these up?
     
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    Had a Chevy Silverado and s-10 before my tundra. They were great trucks and served my needs for a long time.

    That being said, barring a slip in toyota reliability, needing a diesel, or anything that affects my opinion and bias towards Toyota, I'll never go back.
     
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  9. Mar 16, 2017 at 7:33 AM
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    Have never had one. A Taco was my first ever truck; Tundra second.
     
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  10. Mar 16, 2017 at 7:35 AM
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    I have owned 3-S-10's 2 1st gens and 1 2nd gen, 2005 Colorado, 2014 Silverado for Gm trucks. All those treated me well except for the 05 Colorado which was the worst I have owned at 79k miles the ecm went out and that was final straw and that got traded in on my 2012 Tacoma that I bought new and still have today. The Tacoma suffered the AIR failure at 53k which I was really disappointed with, other then that its been a great truck and is the wife's daily now. I traded my 14' Silverado in on my 17' Tundra because I needed space for my daughters carseat and wanted to move up to v8 since I'm upgrading trailers. The Silverado I had for 3 years and put 24,600 miles on it and the truck served me well. It did develop a tear in the driver seat early on like at 6k miles which they covered under warranty, had a squeak which turned out to be a loose trans mount, 2 recalls (seatbelt and airbag reprogram) and right before I traded it the oil cooler hose leaking to the radiator was starting to leak some. Time will tell how the Tundra holds up.
     
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    Wish I could agree about the Cummins motor comment. My two dodge trucks with the Cummins motor were POS's, mainly the motor or injection system, transmissions, limited slips, front ball joints & steering components...etc. Body and interior were pretty good.

    Depending on the F350 if it was the 7.3 or 6.0 (split year), I don't doubt you had a plethora of issues just outside warranty. Not much else has changed since on the Ford brand. Better not daily drive those trucks, or any diesel for that matter.

    If you are looking for a light duty work truck, Toyota or GM, and that depends on budget. If you have a little extra, Toyota. Wayne's Electric in Denver, CO swapped over from GM to Toyota for their fleet trucks. They have been more than happy with the decision.
     
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    I've traditionally preferred Ford. Pre 4th Gen RAMS were POS with really bad transmission issues. That said, they seem to have worked out most of the reliability issues with the 4th gens. time will tell.
     
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    Actually, I do. lol, oops
     
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    Chevy before the cylinder deactivation crap were pretty bulletproof. Dodge has always been poop and Ford has always been a mixed bag IMO.
     
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    I went with Chevy, I used to own one which refused to die. Now the 2 brand new HD Ram's I owned, that's a whole different story. I would never consider a Ram truck again in my life, IMO they suck. Last April I decided to trade my 2014 DC Tundra on a new 2016 CC SB Ram 2500 with the Cummins and the 68rfe automatic trans. At first I was a pretty happy guy, until I got on the freeway and found it vibrated starting at 65 mph and continued even to 90 mph. I had the truck back to the dealer 3 times with only little relief in the vibration. I drove a co-workers new Ram 3500 CC LB with the cummins and the Aisin trans, it was smooth and road much better than my 2500 did. So I traded the 2500 in on an identical to the co-workers 3500, that sucker vibrated even worse, what are the odds of getting 2 trucks which vibrate.

    After 26 days at the dealer they replaced both drive shafts and the carrier bearing which solved the vibration. At last I was smiling from ear to ear and happy with my new Ram. I will say that truck was a beast when it came to pulling a trailer, not to mention it made my 2016 Platinum Tundra look like a kids toy while parked beside it. Anyway, the happiness was short lived. The transmission started flaring the rpm on the 3 - 4 shift, it would flair 400 rpm. Back to the dealer and a download later, it still flared. Next came an electrical problem, the battery voltage would fluctuate between 11.8 and 14.4 volts at idle, the batteries would also loose voltage over night occasionally.

    I couldn't take it anymore, I returned to the Toyota fold. I'm enjoying my new Platinum Tundra and have absolutly no intentions of returning to the Ram brand. I chucked my plans of buying a 43' 5th wheel toy hauler, I can stay in some pretty nice hotels for what I saved not buying one.
     
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    lol OP asked for most reliable truck....
     
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    I know... I posted the best truck ever built!
     
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    You should go get one of those wild man!!!
     
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    Hell, you didn't even hold on to it long enough to have all the front end problems. Lol

    I feel your pain man, the motor is just to heavy for those trucks.
     
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    I'm partial to dodge but that's because I owned one and it never let me down. But it was a manual transmission with the 4.7 V8. I think with anything if you treat it right you can get a lot more out of it. I had a trailblazer SS with the 6.0 L and only a 4L 60 E transmission. The transmission lasted me 80,000 miles without a hick up. When I sold it it didn't even last three months with the new guy. Some people just don't know how to drive.
     
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    Alex What is Tundras made in Texas?

    All kidding aside. Chevy.
     
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    Never owned one of the Big 3, but have experience with them as work vehicles. The 2012 Ram dually I drove sometimes at my first job out of college was a joke, thing would barely pull a side by side up a hill and was in the shop more than once. The Chevy SUV I drove everyday at that job was a pretty reliable vehicle. Then at my second "real" job, had two Duramax 3/4 tons that were both worn out and thus giant POS'. All I can say in that case is farmers are damned hard on pickups. They got traded in soon after I started. But the last Duramax I had on the farm was a fucking awesome truck, pulled whatever I put behind it and never had any issues. In my current job, I have a GMC 1500 that's been very reliable. Probably because it has as much power as a horse drawn buggy.

    So overall, I have to give it to Chevy out of the Big 3.
     
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    I am not. I just got curious as to what Tundra drivers thought about traditionally "American" trucks.

    I have to agree with you. I know multiple people who have one of those things and they ALL have had many issues. From what I understand they put a 5 Cylinder Volkswagen motor in that generation of Colorado. I have heard the newer generation of the Colorado/Canyon twins are much better. I would be particularly interested in the Mini Duramax Colorado or Zr2. However it seems the 6-speed transmission in those things are having some issues. The new 8-speed is much more robust, but you cannot get the 8-speed with the Duramax, yet.

    I actually am not switching over. While some of the new options are impressive, they still do not seem to be worth it.

    I have to agree with this assessment, at least, it falls in line with what i have heard from everyone.

    So true...

    I have heard that the Rams have major issues with vibration. I have seen many Youtube videos about the problem. I am surprised the Aisin transmission was not better, they usually make quality parts. I know some Ford superdutys suffer a similar issue to Ram's vibration issues, particularly the "death wobble". I never experience it on my F350 though.

    I just can't respect the Ridgeline. A unibody truck, might be the way of the future, but it is not in my future. Also, the AWD model is having issues with the transmission. I was watching a Youtube video comparing the Ridgeline, Tacoma, and Frontier (On an Off-road Trip). The Honda's transmission "overheated" half-way through, very disappointing. Honda's automatic transmission have always had issues though. The motors are great though. We rigged up a Honda 2.2l motor in replacement of a Gantry crane motor at one of my jobs. That thing pulled them 60k railroad cars around pretty well.

    In my past experience, manuals are a always more reliable. I actually have not heard too many good things about the 4.7. So it is nice to hear something good about it. I know the 5.9l Magnum was a "DOG".
     
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    Of my vehicles this was gonna be my vote.
    my dad still has his. Farm truck. It's a tow pig.
     
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    In my past experience, manuals are a always more reliable. I actually have not heard too many good things about the 4.7. So it is nice to hear something good about it. I know the 5.9l Magnum was a "DOG".[/QUOTE]

    Yeah I had no problems with the 4.7 and it still going strong to this day. It is a 2002 My mom drives it now, I gave it to her. It's got about 140,000. It's had 2 rearends rebuilt ( I put 411's and posi in it) one clutch and the radiator replaced. My friend has a 2000 Dakota 4,7 that he's had since 01 and the only problem he's had with it is the freeze plugs. But that's because he didn't change the coolant. I think he's got about 190,000 on it now. I actually think that 4.7 was the best part of that truck. A nice little overhead cam engine that like RPMs LOL.
     
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    after my dad died in 1993, I inherited his 1989 chevy Silverado 1500. at the time, it had 50k miles on it and, over the next 7 years, i put another 100k miles on it. generally speaking, the truck held up pretty good... except for the paint. the paint faded within the first 6 months that my dad owned it and by the time I took possession, much of the paint had chipped away leaving the bare metal exposed. soooooo.... being a young guy in my 20's, i was very hard on this truck. lots of full throttle starts, pealing out, and running high rpm's all the time. i also did many full throttle 'N' to 'D' launches so any drive line related issues were most likely my fault. at 90k miles, I had to replace the transmission and at 110k miles, I had to replace the differential. when I finally traded the truck in at 150k miles, the heads were blown and coolant was leaking into the cylinders. I was barely able to pull into a dealer to trade it in :) ohh... and I also got that truck airborne quite a few times. :)

    for as hard as I was on that truck, I am amazed that it lasted for 12 years and 150k miles. I don't know that a newer model Silverado could stand up to the abuse that I delivered to my truck. hell... I don't know if any newer model truck could stand up to that abuse. to me, it seems like trucks from the 70's and 80's were more durable than many trucks today.
     
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    My Dad still DD's his 99 7.3 with almost half a mil on it. He bought it used in 04' with about 150k on it for 10 grand and probably has put 20k+ in it.
     
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    If you think the tundra can beat the Honda Ridgeline in any aspect of being a truck, then you are highly mistaken and under-educated. Honda made the best truck that has ever been made, and they made it with pride!!!! end of story.
     
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