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Oil Catch Can

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by nk1794, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. Jun 20, 2018 at 1:24 PM
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    Can you post picture of the can?
     
  2. Jun 22, 2018 at 11:32 AM
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    Picture of the can.
     
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  3. Jun 22, 2018 at 11:37 AM
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    nk1794 [OP] Always torque to spec

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    Very nice!
     
  4. Feb 10, 2019 at 9:45 AM
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    Been following / reviewing this thread for a while and considering options on my 5.7 2009.

    Looking up some info on line it seems the 5.7 for 2009 is NOT a Direct fuel injection. Can someone confirm this?

    Also, I found a catch can from Amazon (of course Chinese) has baffles and air deflection and installed it. Here are the results. a lot of clear liquid and a bit of oil. I didn't expect that at all..I smelled collection and it seemed to smell like fuel rather than oil.

    IMG_20190203_163650.jpg
     
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  5. Feb 10, 2019 at 10:25 AM
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    :popcorn:
    Something else to think about adding to the list.
     
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    Catch cans and hyper grounding.....internet BS.

    If you're determined to throw $$ away.....just send them $$ to me and I'll tell you how much faster your truck is.
     
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  7. Feb 10, 2019 at 11:50 AM
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    I miss Connor's posts....
     
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  8. Feb 10, 2019 at 12:03 PM
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    Me too...
     
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  9. Feb 10, 2019 at 2:48 PM
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    Well there's no question the catch can caught oil. It caught other things as well.

    I fail to see the relevance of your post. However you can send me ur bank account information and I'll be sure to make the appropriate withdrawal for this education tidbit.

    :spending:

    It appears that the old adage of "if you don't have anything good to say then don't say it, applies.
     
  10. Feb 10, 2019 at 3:16 PM
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    Me three.:(
     
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  12. Feb 10, 2019 at 3:17 PM
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    If a catch can is "catching other things", then clearly there are bigger problems to be concerned about.
    What are these "other things" and how are they managing to find their way into the oiling system?
    A catch can isn't going to solve that problem.

    All the hype about catch cans is just that....hype.
    Trying to sell people something they don't need.

    Show me some quantifiable proof a catch can actually accomplishes anything performancewise or does anything to improve economy for a bone stock engine.

    I'll wait.
     
  16. Feb 10, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    So the point is, it did catch something and oil is what it caught. Yes other things as well. You seem to be the "expert" or at least desire to charge for your "services" so please let me know what those other things are or could be.

    I'll wait...

    Points

    it interesting that a catch can system has been added to other motors as installed equipment. Not a standard for many vehicles today.

    I understand that gasoline fuel is intended to be burned in these motors, not oil. So perhaps a combo of increase fuel economy or EPA involvement... nonetheless oil is burned in a chamber intended for gasoline. I'm no chemist but fairly certain the fluids have different intensions...likely there are unintended consequences to that...what are those? Fouled internals. I think thats possible given these conditions. Perhaps you have proof otherwise....
     
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  17. Feb 10, 2019 at 8:54 PM
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    I have no idea what these "other things" are.....that was one of MY question in case you didn't see it.

    If there is such a great advantage to adding a catch can:
    Let's see the data supporting that fact. Should be plenty since apparently so many people jumped on the bandwagon...right?
    Why aren't all the auto manufacturers installing them as original equipment?
    A bunch of you tube videos proves nothing.

    Catch cans have their place....in high performance/high compression/forced induction applications.
    Unless it's designed for a turbo or supercharger, an OEM PCV system would be overwhelmed because it wasn't designed to handle the increased blowby.
    The catch can craze got started when the 4 cylinder turbo cars became popular. Didn't take long before everyone was trying to run
    more boost/add larger turbo(s)/build bigger motors and one of the problems created by that....the PCV system was inadequate.
    Hence the catch cans.
    Lo and behold everyone else sees that Joe Fast has a catch can on his little turbo car...so they decide they need 1 to.
    And then it's all over the internet that you gots to have this.

    If you just want the extra bling under the hood, then more power to you.
     
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  18. Feb 10, 2019 at 9:11 PM
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    The "other things" was my original question which i why I posted. If the catch can caught only oil then why would I post? Nice try.

    I do appreciate the history lesson.

    If you could find a way to tone done that big head/mouth then I'm sure more folks would appreciate your input. That's your manners lesson because apparently my offer to resolve this "drama fest" through PMs was rejected and you wanted to "resolve" it in front of everyone. Well u got what u wanted.

    Good day.
     
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    Following up.
    So I installed the oil catch can (occ) and found that the substance I collected in the occ was mostly a clear liquid. Got me thinking that maybe my truck wasn't burning fuel completely which made me think, spark plugs. Turns out that's what it was. I changed out the plugs and gasket and wow, truck runs like a dream again. Thanks to everyone on here who helped! I took off the occ for the time being and I'll check my mpg with the tune up. I might put it back on just to see what I get afterwards. I'll update here if I do.
     
  21. Feb 25, 2019 at 8:27 PM
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    So if anything it helps keep an eye on how it’s running. So in turn helped you diagnose it. Right on!
     
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    The crap in the video is typical of a VW motor. I didn't bother watching but the turbo motors in particular tend to spew that sort of gunk, the early 1.8T motors especially. The fear is that that rootbeer float looking crap will coat the turbo as it passes through the intake and later can, and does, settle in the intercooler as the lowest point of the intake run. I ran a can in my MK4 for about a year but grew tired of vacuum problems and took it off to pass smog, never did put it back on.

    I have inspected the tubes from the valve covers back to the intake tube on my Tundra and my Element but saw no scary amount of buildup there. Without a turbo/intercooler I think the condensed vapors would just make their way to the combustion chamber as intended. There isn't really a place along the way for those vapors to accumulate and cause trouble.
     
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    So...my 2c, or 5, 6, 7...whatever.

    Catch cans (CC's) are not so much about performance...at least not in 95% our trucks, which are likely not tuned and will not see more than 550ish hps (from the likes of a SC).
    Just consider the inlet lines for the CC's...they feed from the PCV and Valve covers. High pressure areas that feed to....anyone, anyone, anyone??? The intake tube and manifold. Those lines are all about pressure regulation.

    Like ole man Jenkins used to say, "An engine ain't nothing but an air pump". Two of the biggest things that matter with an air pump is volume (in and out) and pressure (same thing...in and out).

    The side-effect problem of said regulation is that the pressure is being caused by gases coming from a hot and oily engine [aka...air pump], and is being routed back to regulate/balance the intake pressure, in the tube and manifold via short pcs of tubing. Albeit synthetic, remember....our truck's oil weight and temp rating??? 0W-20?!?! Much thinner and slicker than the 10W-30 that was in the ole '83 SR5 for sure, but it will also atomize quicker.
    With said tubing being so short, the pressurized gases carry said atomized oil that gets pumped right thru the TB, manifold and cylinders.
    Ever wondered how the outer side of the TB plate and interior of the manifold get sooo nasty and covered with what looks like burnt oil???

    Simply put...CC's are ultimately about keeping oil out of the air intake system and cylinders, to allow for a more efficient/true fuel burn, and longevity of parts. Not to mention...the interior 'cleanliness' of your engine.

    The lines for CC's are long enough to allow the atomized gas to cool and dump the 'condensed' oil. This then allows for the returning and regulating air to be 'clean'. There is also some data that suggests CC's may provide a bit of a temperature decrease in the returning air...also a really good thing! Cooler air anyone???*

    Consider the CC's like the CAI's of your choice.... Necessary??? No.
    Along with other mods like SC's and other high-performance mods (CAI, LT headers, DD's X-pipe duals, etc.) and tunes (where your adjusting the mapping of valve timing and fuel load for specific applications)...In these cases, can CC's lend a supporting role and perhaps help realize a few more respective ponies??? Yes!

    *Side note to consider ....What good is a CAI if the air coming in (pass the filter and MAF) is sprayed with hot oily air in the tube, ran through a TB (that has hot coolant running through it) and then sprayed again with hot oily air (at the inlet) of the manifold??? Damn near pointless.
    If you have a CAI...Search for the TB bypass...Do it.
     

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