Official 2022 Tundra 3rd Gen Thread

That is how a dealer will or a well equipped shop.

Cab removal is not that big of a deal if the truck is designed to be serviced/repaired that way.

 

About the only other stuff would be the steering column and anything mounted to the firewall like a brake cylinder.

 

it would be a big deal to average joe needing to replace that part out of warranty. No access to a fancy 2 post lift. Looks like the brake lines and the cooling system have to be disconnected / drained and refilled. All the body harnesses disconnected. All the body mounts unbolted (good luck in the salt belt at year 4+). It would be a big deal under my shade tree for sure. Now if you can remove the hood and access them that way, then that would be doable.

 

Exactly. That's why I welded my hood shut, I have no need for that as I just lift the cab every other month. Plus, the techs at the dealer are even more thorough than the factory when putting it all back together ... I know this because every time I have the cab removed/installed, there is LESS squeaks and rattles.

 

There’s a difference between accessible at all and easily accessible.

You can probably get to them with the cab on, but the job will take 2X as long to do properly. If you’re making your living turning wrenches and you can take the cab off and have unrestricted access and get the job done in 1/2 the time while charging the full book rate for the labor that is what you will do.

 

I’m not saying the sky is falling because of this. Just my desire to own one. Some people don’t work on their own vehicles now, what do they care? Me? As the previous poster said, I can’t trust anyone to take my truck apart and put it back together with the care and attention to detail that I would. This is experience based. Letting other people work on my vehicles has resulted in poor repairs and additional problems. Why doesn’t that happen when I work on it? Because when something isn’t right, I don’t just slap it back together, I make sure it’s right before I consider the job done. I purchased a 2019 a couple months ago but looked pretty hard at these new models. Had to buy now and not wait for several reasons and figured if the new ones were really as good as they are supposed to be, I could pick up a gently used one in a few years. I will need to see better consumer repairability info before I could consider purchasing one of these. Kept my last Tundra 16 years and did all of the maintenance myself. Timing belts, starter contacts, radio replacements etc. I can’t stomach a $10,000 repair bill for what may be $2,000 in available parts.

 

Then don’t buy one, also make sure to not buy any domestic HD trucks because they do a lot of cab off warranty work on those too.

 

I guess if your 2019 develops a cam tower seal leak, you won't be getting it fixed? Some techs choose to take the cab off for that job.

 

Oh shit!

Better sell that 2019 and buy yourself a 1979 F100 so you can work on it yourself and get to everything.

 

Well, since he has a 2019, he doesn't need to buy anything for at least 10 years.

 

True, plus he keeps trucks for more than 5 minutes. Unlike a lot of our other members.

 

fixed it for ya

 

I'm gonna stick up for @KNABORES a little bit. I agree with the thought more foresight should be given to maintaining the vehicle.

It's crazy how things are not engineered with the thought of maintenance or replacement. Just look at the hoops you have to jump through to access an oil filter.

 

It's kind of funny isn't it. Their "anti-Japanese" bias for a truck that was built in Texas from a company who has headquarters in Texas. Whatever, though. I realize these "YouTubers" essentially get paid for clickable content. Although I will say, Pickup Truck Plus SUV has been more difficult for me to suffer through lately.

 

Toyota does engineer for maintenance and replacement. They just don’t do it with with end users in mind.

I’m going to guess they’ve made cab off work more common because it’s easier for techs to do a good job on a lot of stuff. Toyota doesn’t care that Joe Blow can’t readily lift the cab off to do work, they know dealer service departments can. The Gen 2 truck isn’t designed for end users to wrench on either.

 

Those extended plans for 10/125k looking mighty fine right now at $2k

 

Has it occurred to any of you guys and gals that maybe, just maybe this new 2022 Tundra is just kind of meh? From a features and performance standpoint it really doesn’t break any new ground or excel. Sorry but I had to say it, it’s probably a nice well rounded truck but there’s very little about it that stands out.

It is the Camry of pickup trucks.

 

That last hood video had some resentment in it lol

 

Likely, I'm no expert, but it still surprises me at those who are appalled by the cab being taken off. Multiple manufacturers have been doing this for 10 years or more, and it's more efficient due to the increased workspace alone. It's probable that the time to disconnect and lift the cab is negligible, and it saves the cab from any unnecessary dents or scratches during the service.

That's just me, though. Some will be bothered by literally anything, including not being able to get themselves in the bed of the truck without a pole and step.

 

84 month/200,000km extended warranty is $4700 here in Canada. If I buy a '22 this year, I'll be buying the warranty for sure. Even on a Toyota, a company with reliability I trust, vehicles are getting too advanced. A turbo failing or even the head unit screwing up somehow will easily crack $5000 in work.

I don't really care what brand of truck it is, extended warranties are becoming a better idea now for new vehicles.

 

Agreed, and at the end of the day, the number of end-consumers who are willing and capable of servicing their own vehicles is very small and continues to dwindle. I make no bones about it, I personally won't do any more than an oil/filter changes, if that, because it's faster and easier to have it done at the dealer.

The days of easy maintenance and repair are gone, but that's the cost of efficiency I presume.

 

Just trying to play devil's advocate a little bit. If someone is going to buy a new truck every ~5 years or less, what does the Tundra offer that its competitors don't? If someone wasn't going to buy a 22 anyway, what does going on and on about how much they hate it accomplish?

@KNABORES sorry for any inadvertent bashing on my part.

 

Depends how long you keep the truck and what kind of warranty they offer. I almost bought a 2018 Sierra and they tried to rope me into a 7 year warranty. What they neglect to mention is that's from date of purchase, so it's really more like a 4 year bumper to bumper and a 2 year powertrain warranty, not the 7 year bumper to bumper they make it out to be.

 

Hell of a compliment. Agree, not the world beater we were all anticipating. But exactly what we should have expected based on Toyota history. It seems like a really nice truck. It doesn’t have to “beat the big 3” I’m not into pissing contests. It has to be a good truck. It should, for the same money, be comparable to the big 3 offerings. It is. But it’s a Toyota.

“ I don’t always buy a new truck, but when I do, it’s gonna be a Toyota. “

- not the most interesting man in the world.

 

I was speaking to things in general. The 2.5s making you drop the skid plate was my example used for oil changes.

As someone who used to fix complex avionics systems, I've cussed many an engineer for the design and layout of a system. So I could sympathize with his sentiment.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say in bold.

 

its not bashing, and I’ve got thicker skin than to let an Internet forum get my panties bunched up. Point of view is what it is. Healthy debate should be that. Heathy debate, point and counterpoint. If my vehicle is under warranty, I’m having the dealer do the work. If it’s out, the bill for some of these repairs and the result from some of these “repairmen” is less than desirable. I want the option to repair my truck when needed. Not having an option, and the repair being prohibitively expensive is hard to swallow. But we choose that road (looking at you BMW owners). We can all choose to put ourselves in those situations or not. Most of us believe that buying a Toyota is putting us in a situation to not have the flashiest most advanced and featured truck there is, but that it will have above board reliability. If I know that I have to do a frame off resto on my truck to do repairs on the engine, may not chose that situation unless I know with reasonable certainty that the likelihood is small to non-existent.

 

True. I plan to keep my next truck for at least 10 years. Were you looking at buying the Sierra new or used? The warranties are different for each. Used warranties rarely cover as much for very long. I haven't looked at GM's warranties recently though.

Here's the wording from Toyota Canada's ECP Platinum extended warranty:

https://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/owners/warranty-and-coverage/supplementary

 

You guys with 2.5 gen trucks are bashing the third gen as if you would have been first in line to buy one if it had been a little "better" in your eyes. I don't understand that. If I was going to buy a new truck every 3 years, I'd probably be in a domestic. More capability, more features and more customizability for a similar price.

 

This was new but from a sketchy dealership I wouldn't recommend to anyone.