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Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by chuck416, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. Jan 20, 2021 at 6:27 AM
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    I am trying to do about as simple a mod as there is, & run into a problem. It appears that I pushed the LED dome light into the socket too hard and bent the receptacle. It’s difficult to tell with the chrome aluminum reflector in place. Does anyone have an idea on how to remove the chrome reflector. I have tried to gently pry it out, but I’m afraid I’m going to bend it.

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    Thank you for the link to the other thread. That is a very useful information if push comes to shove. But for the moment, I’m just trying to get this aluminum reflector off. I am a little uncertain as to the pry point to remove it. Any insight or suggestions on that would be helpful.
     
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    I haven't spent much time taking things apart on our Sequioa. I don't think the reflector comes off though. I think it's molded into the plastic. Once it does come off, it's not going back on. I could be wrong though. Maybe @NewImprovedRon would know, or be able to help more than I can.

    Personally, I would play it safe, and remove the whole overhead assembly.
     
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    I appreciate the patience with a noob. I did figure out the process to remove the reflector. It has three clip-hold points: forward, mid, and aft. After getting it removed, I still may have to take down the overhead console. The copper receptacle appears to be bent, and it’s constructed of pretty fragile material.
     
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    Every one here was once a noob. We all start somewhere. Lets see some pics of the reflector removed. I'm curious on these mount points. One thing to learn about this forum is that there are never enough pictures. :D
     
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    ^^^This^^^
     
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    I wouldn't mess with it, getting it off isn't too hard, but good luck getting it back in place properly afterwards. Better served working from the back side after taking it down from overhead.
     
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    Thanks Ron. I ran out of time working on this today. I’ll re-attempt tomorrow.
     
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    OK...someone asked for photos, so here goes nothin’

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    this is the front (nearest the windshield) of the o’head console fixture, in the photo, the glasses case is on the far side, up by my thumb. I bent the light bulb copper connection apparatus when attempting to install a LED replacement bulb cross-wise, as you can plainly see, on the lower part of the photo.

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    I took a pair of hemostats and very carefully rebent, reshaped, and reformed the light receptacle apparatus, being careful to match as closely as I could the opposing light receptacle. It went back into place very nicely, without very much trouble.

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    When I got done shaping the receptacle, from both the front and the back, this is what it looked like, ready to receive the new LED light. At this point I installed the LED bulb, took it out to the truck and connected the wire to test. The test was successful came back in and finished the reassembly process.

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    it was suggested (as it turns out, too late) not to take the reflector off of the overhead panel assembly. This was outstanding advice. I had not yet received that bit of info, and continued digging into this can of worms trying to effect repair. So now, I have yet another item to take care of, before reinstalling the console back in the overhead. The hemostats (^^above photo^^) are pointing to a snap-in clip / retaining tab for the light reflector. It is extremely difficult to get this piece back into place, and not necessary to effect the repair. As was suggested to me, I recommend you not remove the reflector. You will be sorry if you do ~ ask me how I know

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    After having persuaded the reflector back into place, the entire component was ready to be reinstalled into the overhead.

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    The entire fixture is held in place by two screws (torx#15) assessable inside the glasses case holder, and two clips, as shown in the photograph. Simply reattach the electrical wire connection, get the two screws started (but don’t tighten) insert and snap the two clips (farthest from the rearview mirror) then finish tightening the screws. Do not over torque.
    Done.

    Lessons...
    >Do not be in a hurry trying to do even a simple job (changing a freakin’ light bulb, no less!) in the dark. You’re not doing yourself any favors.
    >Have a reasonable understanding what you are attempting to do (in this case, I tried to put the led bulb in side-ways)

    I’m a total noob. This is the first truck I’ve ever owned (not my first Toyota... does ANYONE remember the Toyota Starlet?) I really want to learn from the brain trust here, so I can do some of these mods I‘ve seen here, with some measure of confidence. Hope I haven’t made a total jerk out of myself by taking so much space to document this seemingly bone-head mistake on my part. Thanks for the encouragement guys. Much appreciated.

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    The ^^^finished^^^ “project”.
     
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    Sorry you missed the reflector post, lol. It's not a mistake you make twice!
     
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    Nice of you to add photos - i have to remove mine as well. cant get bulbs back in. Think mine are bent also.
    May try and tackle this job Sunday before the super bowl.
     
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    Take your time with it. Have a quality set of plastic trim removal tools, or get a set from Amazon. I got a set, with a quality, ballistic nylon case, for $30, which has way more tools than I’ll need. Oh, btw, to effect a repair, the dealership wanted to replace the entire assembly, for well north of $400.00. Definitely have a set of straight, and curved hemostats…you’ll need them to delicately bend the copper armatures (which secure, and provide electrical contact) for the bulbs. Let us know how it goes.
     
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    Thanks for the reply - i have a set of those trim tools from Harbor Freight. After removing all the screws, does the console just drop out? or do you have to slide it front/back or side/side?
    Dont want to damage anything in the removal process.
     
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    Look at the photograph of the console which I removed & took down. IIRC, there are two (four?) screws up near the glasses container…those come out first. Next, there are two very large clips opposite the glasses holder. Slip your clip removal tool in there, pry down gently, and the whole assembly will drop.

    This job was a year ago for me, but that’s my memory.
     
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    I took mine apart a year ago, one bulb wasn't lighting right, it would come on sporadically or only when you held the button down. Took it apart and made the mistake of removing the reflector, lol. Anyways I could find nothing wrong with the copper runs, appeared to be the switch itself not latching. So I took into toyota and had it fixed under warranty, I told them I had taken it down to see if a copper run had been bent or pushed but suspected the switch was bad, they threatened to deny it, because they said they could see a tool mark and that I had voided warranty. I told them removing a plastic panel doesn't void warranty. They fixed it, considering they found the problem, and reported it on a previous service, lol
     
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    I just pried out aluminum reflector front first. Once out you can see how it sits in the console with the 'clips' on the reflector. You need to bend it to get it in/out and then you can reshape it while it's in there and set it in place.
     
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    I tried to put the bulb in sideways too ;) Because they need to be inserted the correct way I checked em and popped the fuse. Yes I was in a hurry. I blew the fuse and fyi it is not under the hood. It is under the driver dash down by the kickplate. A 5 min job took me 40 minutes ha ha.
     
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    Everyone starts as a noob at some point, it's all good!
    We learn as we go in life.

    Documentation helps us all and we value those who take the time to do it for the rest of us dummies!

    Did my interior led lights a couple weeks ago in the dark after work using the $20 Amazon kit that came with a dash pry tool.

    Took no fuses or battery off, some bulbs went in backwards and did not work, just pulled and reversed them np.
    One map light was stubborn, and I bent the socket also, I just reached up with my hemostat and gently bent it back.

    My issue was getting the old map light bulbs out, had to use needle nose pliers and came close to crushing them to get enough grip to get them out after 8 years in there.
    Should have used some tape for grip but was being lazy.

    Still not sure I really like the new lights.
    They are nice and bright, but the light is so sterile and cold.

    Something to be said for traditional filament lights imho.

    I always hated florescent lights and leds feel the same to me.

    Having these now make me want to do the led headlights.
    But that cost has to wait awhile.

    The interior leds do make the truck look more modern and it's brighter so meh, whatever :burnrubber:
     
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    Thanks again for the assist. Got it down and functioning as it should. Took about 30 min from start to finish.

    You would think the engineers would come up with a better way to hold those bulbs in. Those brass connectors are small and fragile.
     
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    ^^^You^^^ are a better mechanic than I am! It took me a couple of hours!
     
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    Thank you for this thread! I did the exact same thing and bent the light receptacle. I removed the overhead console and bent the receptacle back into place. Also, don’t remove the reflector. That was tough to put back into place. Everything works great.
     
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    Glad it worked out well for you.
    Carry on Sir!
     
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    Thanks everyone for the information. I just changed the interior bulbs to LED and buggered up the drivers side socket along with the reflector plate. Looks like I'll be taking the console down for repairs. The pictures and instructions are invaluable!
     
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    Use patience, and ‘slow hands’ when messing with those thin aluminum reflectors. They are easy to bend / break. Same with the “Push-for-On” clear lens /switch. Take your time, go slow, and it will turn out fine. Maybe only one cup of coffee before you start the job. I didn’t break mine, but i could see how a ham-fisted approach would do so. The dealer wanted to replace the entire overhead console, at just over $500.00
     
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    I knew I was tossing those things so I pried one side out then bent the POS enough to pull it out. Tossed them in the trash. If you replace with LEDs you don't need them and if you replace with MESO lighting, you don't need them.
     
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    In the 2nd photo from Jan 22nd where you popped the leads back onto the plastic little nub. The right hand side of the copper appears broken (the tiny areas), is that true or not? Do these connections need to be soldered together or simply pushed back onto the nub? My light is flickering and looks very similar to this.
     
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    I agree, they appear to be broken. I assure you they are not broken. Do not solder these together. I have no idea what would happen if you attempted to soldered them together, but I can assure you that those two pieces of copper are not separated. The photo you see is as the assembly was designed. Again, I agree with your observations that these two areas of copper appear to have been broken, and should be one piece….but I reiterate, that is NOT true.
    Hope that is helpful.
     
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