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Newb here, 4.7 V8 vs 5.7 V8

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by Aron9000, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. Apr 22, 2018 at 9:51 PM
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    Been looking for a new truck, crashed my 2004 Tacoma last week. Great truck, sad to see her go, walked away from a nasty accident without a scratch, raining on the interstate, somebody pulled out in front of me, spun, head on into the center wall at 40mph.

    Anyways, been looking for a bit newer Tacoma, budget of about 15k tops. Noticed you can get a bigger Tundra for the same $$$$.

    Found this about 2 hours away, looks like a good deal, clean truck, I like the color combo, lowish miles, but it has the 4.7 V8.

    https://huntsville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2007-toyota-tundra-sr5/6564661566.html

    I didn't know the 4.7 V8 was still around after the redesign in 2007. So a few questions about the 4.7

    1. Has a timing belt, right?

    2. Gas mileage any better than the 5.7 V8? This is a 2wd truck BTW Went to fueleconomy.gov, all the Toyota pickups suck down the gas pretty bad according to them, 4.7 got 1 mpg better than the bigger engine, a V6 Tacoma was like 2-3mpg better.

    3. Hows the power?? Is this thing going to be a dog? I've driven a Tundra with the 5.7, man it straight moves for something this big/heavy IMO. I've also driven an early/mid 00's Lexus GX470, I think that has the same 4.7 V8. Wasn't all that impressed, but that was an older truck, I think the 4.7 got a boost in power for the year Tundra I'm looking at.

    That's the main thing I'm worried about, am I going to miss the extra power?? Is it going to be a dog??
     
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  2. Apr 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM
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    The 4.7 is a good engine. It was the one in the million mile Tundra.
    However, I’d say get the 5.7. The gas mileage is similar, but the extra power is great when you really need it.
     
  3. Apr 22, 2018 at 10:03 PM
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    Go for a truck with the 5.7
     
  4. Apr 22, 2018 at 10:04 PM
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    Welcome!! That’s a clean looking truck.
     
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  5. Apr 22, 2018 at 10:17 PM
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    For some reason, your story is very familiar. I too had a Tacoma, it came to an end under similar circumstances, and I too hesitated about the big ole 5.7.

    The 4.7 still got the 5 spd transmission, while 5.7 trucks got the 6sp with double overdrive. Mileage numbers aren’t very different, of course, your right foot makes a difference.

    Overall, there is one place I miss my ‘06 Tacoma, and it’s certainly not at the fuel pump. :spending: It’s off pavement, but then again, my quad fits in the Tundra with the tailgate closed. The room and comfort more than make up for that though. Not to mention, the POWER. :burnrubber:
     
  6. Apr 22, 2018 at 11:00 PM
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    Welcome Aaron. It's just my opinion but I'd hold out for a 5.7, better resale and I like the extra power.
     
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  7. Apr 22, 2018 at 11:03 PM
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  9. Apr 23, 2018 at 2:09 AM
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    Welcome to the forum.

    You will hardly find anyone say that they wish they've gotten a 4.7 instead of a 5.7. Definitely look for a 5.7 (especially since you are already concerned about power).
     
  10. Apr 23, 2018 at 5:01 AM
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    I have the 4.7L in my 08, and I have been very happy. You are right that it has the timing belt, so that can be costly to replace at the mileage intervals, but just part of the regular maintenance. Gas mileage is not going to be much different, if any, in the 4.7 and 5.7.

    I will say I have never driven a 5.7, but I don't feel like my truck is a dog by any means. A lot of it will depend what you use it for, but for probably 80% of the people on these boards, the 4.7 is more than capable for their uses, however the 5.7 is nice to have. I would have liked to have gotten a 5.7 and the resale is better, but I wouldn't hesitate in a minute to look at the 4.7 or the 4.6 on the newer ones as far as my uses.

    I would suggest making the trip to go drive it and see what you think. That is a really sharp looking truck, and if it fits your needs and you like it, I'd say go for it!
     
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  11. Apr 23, 2018 at 5:29 AM
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    Like he said the best you can do is drive it and see for yourself. If that is your budget, than this is a great truck for that price. Plus, do you plan on selling it anytime soon?? If not than the resale waaaaaaay down the road prob won’t be to much different with 300k on the odometer. Just my opinion.
     
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  12. Apr 23, 2018 at 7:04 AM
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  13. Apr 23, 2018 at 1:31 PM
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    Couple of comments. I owned a 2006 with the 4.7 and put 225,000 miles on it since new. Still runs like the day I drove it off the lot and my daughter (who bought it from me) will probably put several 100,000 miles more on it. I now own a new 2018 with the 5.7. Here are some things to consider:

    1) 4.7 has a timing belt, replace every 90,000 miles. I do all my own work and it was a PITA each time it came due, as well as expensive for OEM parts (around $500.00). It will be close to $1,000 (or more) to have it done by a shop.
    2) 4.7 has shim-under-bucket valve actuators. If a clearance goes out of spec. (none of mine did thankfully), it means camshaft removal to replace a shim (or shims).
    3) 5.7 has no maintenance chain drive for the cams.
    4) 5.7 has hydraulic valve actuators (can't really call them lifters). Zero maintenance on this system.

    As fantastic as my 2006 was, items 1 & 2 were thorns in the side for me. Items 4 & 5 are golden on the new truck. This and negligible difference in MPG. Plus, the 5.7 goes like hell.

    Dan
     
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    That is very interesting information. Makes me feel better about the ole girl out in the driveway.
     
  15. Apr 29, 2018 at 10:56 PM
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    Well went down to Beaman Toyota, drove a gold 2008 4wd Crew Max(is that what they call the big cab???). Had the 5.7 V8, I must say that thing flat out hauls ass, especially for a 6000lb truck. I've had fast cars, it felt about as quick as my old 1995 Cadillac Fleetwood with the LT1 V8 when it was stock. Main thing that impressed me with this motor is it has great low end power, but it loves to sing. Flooring it on the test drive, 60 to 85mph was pretty damn impressive.

    After driving that, I'm not settling for the small engine. That truck I looked at was WAY overpriced for the condition it was in. I live in Nashville, trucks should be rust free, this one was not. It also had a bunch of scratches on the sides of the bed, a dent in the rear bumper, scratches on the tailgate, the tan interior wasn't that clean, scratches/dents on the hood, they wanted $21,000 for that thing with 91k miles. Plus I don't really care if the truck is 4wd or the huge cab option, I actually like the smaller cab option that has more bed.

    Also looked at a 2014 or 2015 Tacoma SR5, extra cab, Pre-Runner, 2wd V6, silver. Had 35k miles on it, Toyota dealer north of town wanted $24,995 I think. Once again overpriced junk, front pass fender had been repainted, you could see the damage in the engine compartment. It drove great, but it wasn't nearly as nice as that Tundra. Seats weren't as comfortable, the relation of the pedals, steering wheel, seating position is MUCH better in the Tundra. Also that cab was A LOT tighter. Not quite as small as my damn 2004 Tacoma reg cab, but I was expecting the seats to be farther apart, and for there to be a bit more room behind my seat. Those are basically kids under 12 seats back there. Power was pretty good though, I liked that V6. Had good low end shove, moved decently in that 60-85mph test on the highway. It felt a lot more peppy than my dad's 2016 Tacoma with the smaller 3.5 V6.

    Going to look at this tomorrow, price seems reasonable, miles are high for the year, but IMO condition is FAR more important than miles on a Toyota IMO.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/730500454/overview/?aff=atempest&CMP=atempest
     
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  17. May 1, 2018 at 10:36 PM
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    So I've test drove a couple of Tundras, both of them made this same noise with the fan motor on the interior. It was sort of a clickty sound, like a piece of paper was stuck in the fan motor or something. Not ridiculously loud, but you did notice it, especially at slower speeds.

    Is that a common problem???

    How hard is it to change out the fan blower motor?? I don't want to buy something then realise it needs a full dashboard out service.
     
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    Well I drove a 2011 4.6 V8 truck today. 4wd. I think I'm going to buy it. Felt a bit stronger than the 4.7 V8, I had that thing up to 95mph on the interstate passing a semi-truck lol. Not as fast/as much tire shredding torque as the 5.7 V8, but I can deal with it. Plus the 4.6 doesn't have a timing belt.

    Dealer is asking $20,900. 4.6 V8, 4wd, double cab(smaller cab with back seat/bigger bed), grey cloth bench seat, column shift, has the chrome package. Best part its a 2011 with only 55k miles, and it is STUPID clean. Has bluetooth for the phone too, which is cool.
     
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    That sounds like a solid deal.

    Got my 4.6L 3 years ago. 2012 MGM DC 2wd AT 21k miles. Bought it for 23k OTD

    Everything’s the same as yours aside from 4wd.

    It’s served me well. Only problem I had with it was the AIP issue this past November.

    Also has 33” AT tires and a 3/1 lift. Still plenty of torque and speed for me
     
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    I'm a big newb with these tundras. I have a embarrassing story about mine but still had to end up the way it did anyway. I was new to tundras shopping around and wanted a crewmax for the right price. I didn't even know that the 2nd gen body style came with the older 4.7. I bought it thinking it was a 5.7! 2007 crewmax 79k miles clean title level kit and 33s 19,500. Was the cheapest one I could find with low miles, crewmax, 4x4 and a color that wasn't that brown or bright blue and had the little lift that would satisfy my wants. Power didn't seem bad on the test drive. I live in a hilly area in cali and although it has sufficient power all the talk of the 5.7 makes me regret not realizing that mine had the 4.7. I imagine I could FLY with 100hp more. Don't really tow anything but it's the whole point of the thing! Lmao. And now I almost wish that it didn't had the level kit and 33s. If I were to take off the level kit and go back to stock size tires on it I really wonder how much of a difference it would make? Anyone want to chime in?
     
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    I have another question. Can a ECU programmer boost performance on the 07 4.7? And not affect mpg too crazy..
     
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    That sucks you bought it thinking it was the 5.7L, but still sounds like you got a pretty nice truck, that's extremely low miles for a 2007. I have the 4.7L also and while my mpg took a little hit and can probably feel performance a little bit, there was not enough difference in stock vs now for me to even consider going back to non leveled and stock tires. I'm sure if I were to drive a stock one side by side I would be able to tell, but my truck just looks soo much better than it did at first and I'm willing to sacrifice.

    @Punisher17 you mentioned 33's, but there are a few different sizes that are considered 33's. Which one are you running? For instance my 275/70/18 are 33x11 and 305/65/18 are 33.5x12.50. They are both considered 33's overall, but the 305's will have more impact on performance than my 275's.
     
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    My 01 and 05 had the 4.7 and I thought it was good for those trucks. I have the 5.7 in my 08 and I have a 182K on it with normal maintenance. One radiator and one water pump (hasn't everyone)...anyway buddy of mine has an 08 with the 4.7 and it is fine but I think with the newer trucks the 5.7 is a better option if you can get it. Here in colorado the 5.7 makes a difference.
     
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    Thank you guys for all the input it was helpful lol. I am running 33x12.50r18. I always loved the 4.7 in my dads 1st gen. It would roast the tires so easy.. but the 5.7 in the larger 2nd gen crewmax only makes sense to me. Overall I don't think I could've found a 5.7 for the same deal I got on mine. Maybe will trade up for a new 5.7 in a few years.

    And has anyone used a programmer on a stock 07 4.7 to make gains?
     
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    My '07 is a 4.7. I thought it was a 5.7 as well. (was not aware of the smaller engine) It tows my 28 ft. Hideout travel trailer really great without much effort going of the Cascades here in Oregon. Probably about 7000 lbs. loaded. And when not towing it can tear up the road great.
     
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    I 2 would go with the 5.7.I have a 2000 with the 4.7 with 376,000 miles and it still runs great.But it's not a 5.7!I have a 2013 crewmax 4x4 with the 5.7 and it pulls tha 5700 lbs. around like nothing and there is no timing belts to change.I do my own maintenance and it takes me 4 hrs to change the timing belt and water pump. P.S.-always change the water pump when you change the timing belt!
     

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