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New Tires/Wheels - 285/70R18

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by harrisdoggy, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM
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    You're rubbing the front liner
     
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    I'd rather have a rub than the trac situation. Hard to tell from the pics, but looks like you might have to do some trimming. Maybe pull your coilovers and adjust to the top setting. Or add couchbuilder shims. Two on each side would get you close to 3 inches. Your on the second to the top setting. I have shims for mine, but haven't put them in yet. It looks like you can just drop the lower control arms, drop the coilovers down enough to slip the shims in and bolt it back up. You will of course have to get another alignment. Then you shouldn't have to trim your bumper.
     
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    Maybe my stock wheels are the issue with mine. Perhaps with the higher center of gravity, pushing the wheels out to widen the footprint helps keep the truck planted. I might try spacers to see, not to keen on running spacers. But, I did have them on my 1st gen without having any problems. In your case, I think more lift would be the solution. If you add a couple shims it shouldn't change the ride as you won't be putting more preload to the springs. And you won't have to completely tear everything down again.
     
  4. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:47 AM
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    Yeah - when I put them on in the shop everything barely cleared, but it seems like the rubbing has started to get a little worse. Any thoughts on why it would be only on the driver's side? Wondering what the best solution is.......
     
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    No expert here but folks who modify their suspension often remark about the "Toyota drivers side lean" where the drivers side sags a little bit lower than the right. Maybe this is contributing.
     
  6. Feb 23, 2017 at 8:55 AM
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    Because of the fact that our trucks sit lower on the drivers side. Couchbuilder recommends two shims on the drivers and one on the passenger side to level things out. But now I'm not sure, after talking with lotsoftoys. He says that can cause other issues, because your putting more preload on one side. But it's not really preload as the shims go on top of the coilover assembly. If yours doesn't have to much lean, just put in one or two on each side. Keep in mind though that at 3" lift you may have to get ucas as well.
     
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  7. Feb 23, 2017 at 9:02 AM
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    Like these guys said, it could be the lean. You can measure from your fender to the middle of your wheels to see if the driver's side is lower. If that's the case, you can add a shim to raise driver's side. But that's still not a guarantee to fix it. Or you can just do what most of us with larger tires have done. Push the liner forward and redrill and if that's not enough, trim a little where it's rubbing. It sounds like your rubbing may be very minor, so this would probably do it.
     
  8. Feb 23, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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    Here are my KO2's in 285/65 R18....2.5" lift up front/ approx 1.5 lift rear via AAL. I LOVE these tires. They are the best I've had so far. I have No traction control issues.
     
  9. Feb 23, 2017 at 9:53 AM
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    ALSO.... One of the lesser known Newer tire offerings on the market that are BAD ASS are the Falken Wildpeak A/T3W's. My best friend just put them on his truck about a month ago. I would have never given Falken any serious consideration, but my buddy swore up and down that all the reviews by various 4wheel and truck magazines and online publications of the tires where praising them. They WILL be my next tires having driven his truck and being BLOWN AWAY at how good they are. They are also rated for M/S without feeling overly soft to the touch. He's driven them on snow and ice and won't stop talking about how great they handle. IMO they are the best 4 season truck tire on the market. Here is a link to a great article on them and some photos. I think they have the competitions tires beat in SPADES in this category.
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  10. Feb 23, 2017 at 10:02 AM
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    Your 285/65/18's are about a 33, the 285/70's are about 34. That added inch probably makes a big difference. I am thinking about getting a set of wildpeaks for my wife's jeep. Had a guy at big o tell me they're junk, probably because he would make more money selling us big o Branded. Nice to hear that they are a good option.
     
  11. Feb 23, 2017 at 10:10 AM
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    That extra inch makes a HUGE difference. I rolled the tires I bought up next to my wheel wells at Discount tire as well as the 285/70's and the 70's were just to big. I didn't/ don't want to start cutting crap. Huge tires belong on Jeep Wranglers in my opinion which are much more capable for 4 wheeling and beating on in general! LOL:crapstorm: As for that guys opinion, he has no clue and obviously hasn't actually used the tires himself. I was a Falken hater as well.....then I drove on them and.....damn!!!:headbang:
     
  12. Feb 23, 2017 at 6:37 PM
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    Truck looks great! Why did you opt for the 285/665 versus the 275/70? I almost did the 275/70, but opted for slightly larger - now I have the issues to work through with the bumper.
     
  13. Feb 23, 2017 at 6:45 PM
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    I wish I'd gone with either the 275/70 or the 285/65's. Would have been a lot less money and issues! Truck sure looks good with the 285/70 though.
     
  14. Feb 23, 2017 at 6:55 PM
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    I checked my tire pressure today when totally cold, snowing out. I had them at 35psi hot and figured that was about 32, well they were actually at 29psi and obviously to low to wear right. I'll adjust them up to 32 Sat cold, when it's not freezing out, then see how it does. Tire pressure definitely changes the way the trac reacts. I've just got to try and find the sweet spot, where the trac doesn't go crazy and tire wear won't be a problem. I still might try spacers. Bora makes 1", that'll push the wheels out a little without increasing the scrub radius to much.
     
  15. Feb 23, 2017 at 7:05 PM
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    Amado, don't recall you mentioning it, but you got the zero point calibration done, right?
     
  16. Feb 23, 2017 at 7:12 PM
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    Sure did Joon, unfortunately it didn't do anything for the trac situation. If I'm understanding it right the zpc doesn't do anything to adjust the wheel speed sensors. My local tech is going to talk to a couple of his buddies that work at dealerships to find out if there is a way to get into the programming to adjust for bigger tires. He's not aware of any.
     
  17. Feb 23, 2017 at 7:17 PM
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    I think @GNTundra fixed his with bullydog or one of those tuners. Gino!!!
     
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    I thought I read that the tuners didn't have the capability to do that. I'll have to look into it.
     
  19. Feb 23, 2017 at 9:11 PM
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    Thanks for the info Gino, does the hypertech Speedo calibrater help settle down the trac by itself? It seems like it should since the ecu is getting an accurate wheel speed reading. In turn, the signal to the trac should be correct, right?
     
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    Sounds like the next thing I'll be doing. It's going to have to wait till work picks up. My wife is going to kill me if I try to spend another dime on the other woman right now.:ballchain::burnrubber:
     
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    I like that you can buy just the Speedo calibrater from hypertech, then upgrade it to the full programmer later.
     
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    She acts like I'm breaking out the checkbook every time I get on the site. But honey, I'm only spending in my head doesn't work.:crapstorm:
     
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    The 285 width looks better to me than the 275 width and if I had gone any taller, greater than the 65, I would have had to deal with trimming issues. I'm not a fan of cutting and moving things around. Just my preference though! I also see a lot of guys on here going with taller tires and keeping the width the same which results in a truck that still looks stock to me, it's just a higher truck. I don't know why someone would want to spend all the money to raise their Tundra and pay for expensive tires when the end result is a stock looking truck. Again, just my opinion! As long as it's a Tundra it's all good with me!:cheers:
     
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    You're right, I've been noticing that mine does kind of look like a stock truck with the bigger tires filling out the wheel wells after the lift. Its got a nice balanced look, just bigger and badder!20170102_152138.jpg
     
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    Joeshaker....what is tire size/lift? I have a black beauty also and I like your look
     
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    Thanks Josh, I like the way it sits to, not to extreme. I'm running 285/70/18's with 2.5" front, 1" shackles and bags in the back. Bags add .5" at 5 psi minimum inflation.
     
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    What PSI do you run? I just stopped by Discount for a check and they asked what I wanted them at. I said I had no idea, just whatever is good. Anyway, dude looked at me like I should know. I think he set them at 37 PSI.
     
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    Hey Josh, 35 to 37 is probably about right. Discount had mine at 40 which felt alright, maybe a little stiff and not great on snow. I've been experimenting with the pressure to get the trac to settle down. At 30 the trac was less sensitive but obviously to low. Put them back up to 33, which still looks and feels a little low.
     
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    I went with 285x75x18 Terra Grappler G2s on MotoMetal 18x9 +18 rims. I love the look and the way they fill the fender wells...

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    Your truck looks great sixpack! What lift do you have, had any issues with the trac going off when your turned in at a certain angle? Mine does it pretty bad with the 34 inch tires on stock wheels.
     

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