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Need some lug nut info for Icon Rebound's

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by TheGibbster, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. Dec 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM
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    Hey guys,

    I am about to order up some lug nuts for the Icon Rebounds I got, and I just wanted to check with those who are more knowledgeable than I.

    Am I correct, that these are the type to go with, since the Rebound's are hubcentric?

    https://wheelersoffroad.com/i-25489...-various-quantities.html?ref=category:1346071

    From my understanding, with these wheels, neither E/T or spline drive lugs are needed.

    And here's a Rebound shot to keep things from being boring :)

     
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  2. Dec 7, 2018 at 10:34 AM
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    Yeah, that thread was concerning Icon Six Speeds, which are lug centric. The guys at Wheelers told me that only Acorn style with 60 degree Taper are needed for the Rebounds. I just want to double check before ordering anything.
     
  4. Dec 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM
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    Discount Tire used their own ET lug nuts on my Icon Rebounds. Have had them for a few thousand miles so far with no problems.
     
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  5. Dec 9, 2018 at 10:36 AM
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    I got the chance to talk more with Travis @Wheeler's Off-Road Inc

    I ended up going with the Lugs that I linked along with a set of lug locks from Gorilla. I didn't want to screw around with an E/T lug and all the misery they bring when they break off in your wheel.

    Hope it helps somebody.:hattip:
     
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  6. Dec 9, 2018 at 11:32 AM
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    Be sure to post some pics once you get them mounted!
     
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  8. Dec 16, 2018 at 8:18 AM
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    Was not aware of the potential for ET lugs to break off. For peace of mind, I ordered the same acorn lugs from Wheelers that you linked. Have you gotten yours yet? If so, any pictures you can share of them on your Rebounds?
     
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    Are there documented cases on this forum of ET lugs failing in any way? Only personal experiences need apply. I don't think the failure rate is moderate or even low, probably rare.

    I've not heard of it until a few members mentioned it. I don't believe SCS or Camburg would sell them if there was a chance of failure. Both very reputable companies.

    I went ET for the piece of mind in having more than 8 full turns of engagement. I tow and haul, wasn't interested in shedding a wheel.

    Based on the research I did prior to purchase, ET lugs will fail if an impact is used instead of a torque wrench. The impact will stretch the ET portion from the acorn, weakening it. I also always use anti-seize on my studs.
     
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    Yeah, those are the same locks. I will be sure to post up once I get everything mounted.

    As far as the E/T lugs are concerned, I figured between the fact that both wheelers and Icon told me they weren't needed on the rebounds, and since eventually I will be bashing this truck around on rocky trails, that any possible BS that could be mitigated would be best.
     
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  12. Dec 16, 2018 at 6:49 PM
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    Yes, my earlier google search found a few posts from those who’ve broken longer lug nuts. All that was left was a small broken ring piece stuck on the stud and within the wheel’s lug hole, making it very difficult to remove. So no, I have no personal experience, but reading about others’ experiences has left me a bit leery. It may be rare for them to break, but with my luck I'd rather not risk it.

    Looking at mine, I can see how their longer length can act as unwelcome leverage to the outer exposed area of the lug nut, adding some vulnerability to breakage. I think you're right about the risk of breakage with an impact wrench. And I think there may also be a risk if using a lug wrench that isn’t deep enough to cover the whole lug nut, again because of the leverage from the nut’s longer length.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Use anti-seize, a torque wrench, and ET lugs.

    Or use standard acorns at 4-6 turns and hope yo' wheels is good.
     
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    Icon wheels do not use ET lugs. Plenty of engagement, and ET lugs are too long for them.
     
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    Confirmed across all Icon wheels? How many full rotations of the lug nut are you getting?
     
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    Went ahead and picked up the same lugs and locks from wheelers. Thanks for the thread. I’m running the same wheels. I can’t wait to wrap them in 35s. AD956065-10E7-4D3B-A31D-F6BB521B5174.jpg
     
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    Glad to hear it helped @Owenfred18
    What color Tundra you mounting those on?
     
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    White!

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    Resurrecting this thread now that I’ve come across a problem trying to replace the ET lug nuts with acorn style from Wheelers. I finally got around to trying to install them after procrastinating all this time.

    Unfortunately, none of my lug wrenches fit in the Rebound lug bore. The bore is too narrow. I tried a 21 mm socket, but it’s too thick to fit in the Rebounds’ narrower lug bore. Is there an adapter or thin-walled lug wrench that works?
     
  21. Mar 11, 2019 at 6:22 AM
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    I came across these thin wall sockets, one of which includes a 21 mm socket:

    https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-4950-...6ZRR0SHY0D3&psc=1&refRID=8QBJZ9FZX6ZRR0SHY0D3

    Anyone have experience with this set? These are chrome molybdenum designed for impact wrenches, but I only have a handheld 1/2" breaker bar. Another thin wall set is made of chrome vanadium. Have no idea which is stronger and least prone to cracking.
     
  22. Mar 11, 2019 at 7:26 AM
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    By the way, the Wheelers site says these acorn style lug nuts are 3/4”, but the ones I got are 21 mm, which are bigger than 3/4” (about 19 mm) and I suspect are also bigger than 7/8”.
     

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