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Need pre-purchase advice for camper shell, ARE vs Leer

Discussion in 'Tonneau Covers, Caps and Shells' started by badsector, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Sep 30, 2016 at 11:48 AM
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    Expedition One Front Bumper w/Warn 10-S winch TRD Dual Exhaust ARE CX Camper Shell OME 613 Full suspension kit with Dakar rear springs.
    It's a concern of mine as well... from what I'm being told by the dealer and some research is that I should keep the load weight at 200lbs or less while going down the road.. they call this the dynamic weight bearing. While parked, they say it can support substantially more, referred to as the static weight. I have not found any static weight load numbers, but from my research on the net it seems to be quite a bit.

    I have not been able to find any forum threads which someone produced pictures of collapsed or cracked shells resulting from sleeping in a RTT. The RTT will be mostly for my 2 kids, I got a foxwing awning and taglong tent from rhino-rack for myself and the mrs.
     
  2. Sep 30, 2016 at 11:49 AM
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    cool. Keep us posted and pictures too :)
     
  3. Oct 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM
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    Over the line,on a side note from the subject at hand I Noticed your flares did you buy those or were they installed when you got it? I been look for something similar and am not having any luck. If you bought them could you tell me the brand. Thx
     
  4. Oct 13, 2016 at 6:14 AM
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    Those are the stock flares. On the truck when I picked them up.
     
  5. Oct 18, 2016 at 7:43 PM
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    Trd exhaust, trd sway rear sway bar,spray in bed liner, fold a cover,tint
    Anyone with a leer cap notice how much the rear drops once installed. I'm picking one up on Thursday I think it's the 100xl.
    I have a 2" level in the front right now and I only have about a 3/4 rake if it drops more than that I want to install the 1" rear I have to get the rake back.
    Thx
     
  6. Oct 18, 2016 at 8:16 PM
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    I had the ARE Z on my last truck. I loved it and had no issues with it
     
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  7. Oct 19, 2016 at 11:58 AM
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    Expedition One Front Bumper w/Warn 10-S winch TRD Dual Exhaust ARE CX Camper Shell OME 613 Full suspension kit with Dakar rear springs.
    The ARE Z looks fantastic... I really wanted a remote locking feature, but I wanted windoors more. I ended up getting the full bedrug, but I agree now that just the mat by itself is perfect without the side walls.

    Here's my cap... I started a build thread today, check it out here. I had the dealer hard wire the 12v power outlet so that it's always on and add a bypass switch.. that way I can turn it on or off from the back of the cab without having to turn the ignition switch to acc/on. Of course I leave it OFF to prevent battery drain as it has some LED indicators that show your battery level which stay on as long as it's receiving power.



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  8. Feb 15, 2017 at 4:33 AM
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    TT 3/1 Boss lift, XPEL paint protection, tint front windows, door ding protectors aka- s/s running boards, OEM painted flares, TRD shifter, Weathertecs, ARE "Z" topper, locker-down console vault. 285/60/20 Michelin Defender tires, Blackrhino mint wheels, Pro Grill, OEM drivers side grab handle, color matched mirror caps, and door handles. Rough Country LED lower grill lightbar.
    No.
     
  9. Feb 15, 2017 at 4:49 AM
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    TT 3/1 Boss lift, XPEL paint protection, tint front windows, door ding protectors aka- s/s running boards, OEM painted flares, TRD shifter, Weathertecs, ARE "Z" topper, locker-down console vault. 285/60/20 Michelin Defender tires, Blackrhino mint wheels, Pro Grill, OEM drivers side grab handle, color matched mirror caps, and door handles. Rough Country LED lower grill lightbar.
    I have owned a few ARE toppers...I ordered my Z without the bed trim piece, just my preference.

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  10. Feb 17, 2017 at 3:40 AM
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    @ Patroit....any chance you can get pix of the cap's hang over at the end of the truck bed? I just had a Z-Series cap install and mine was sticking out pass 1" and after adjusting it, it was still 3/4" out. Cap was also return cuz it had a crack.....now capless and now back to the OP's Leer vs ARE debate for me. Lol! Yours looks super clean by the way!


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  11. Feb 17, 2017 at 4:30 AM
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  12. Feb 17, 2017 at 5:37 AM
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    Greatly appreciate the insight....been lurker for awhile but with one month old twins girls...mods and parts are secondary and reading/learning is all I can do. Again thanks for the input!
     
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  13. Feb 17, 2017 at 5:44 AM
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    TT 3/1 Boss lift, XPEL paint protection, tint front windows, door ding protectors aka- s/s running boards, OEM painted flares, TRD shifter, Weathertecs, ARE "Z" topper, locker-down console vault. 285/60/20 Michelin Defender tires, Blackrhino mint wheels, Pro Grill, OEM drivers side grab handle, color matched mirror caps, and door handles. Rough Country LED lower grill lightbar.
    You have your priorities correct. Congrats on twins!
     
  14. Feb 17, 2017 at 7:54 AM
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    What do you haul on top ? What type of racks are those?
    Please and thanks.
     
  15. Feb 17, 2017 at 9:23 AM
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    I love my ARE.

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  16. Jul 2, 2017 at 7:54 PM
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    Works for me.

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  17. Jul 2, 2017 at 11:34 PM
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    Hey Nice, post up pics of roof top tent fully deployed...would be interested seeing this set up. I am surprised your shell will withstand the dead weight of two adults sleeping in a roof top tent. Pics?
     
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    The way the tent cantilevers out some of the weight is resting on the ladder. An adult and two kids sleep up there. Total weight including the tent is probably about 400 pounds. The topper is a Glasstite - no longer made. I don't know how it compares to ARE or Leer in terms of toughness but it's very solid.

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    Interesting looking rig! I have never seen any topper with that kind of weight on it. I am not sure ARE reccomends roof top tents for their toppers...but maybe?
     
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    I have a "new" Tundra now - 2013 Crewmax, and I'm currently looking at toppers. The ARE HD Series should work. The roof rack has a 550' weight rating. I believe Leer also has a reinforced topper.
     
  21. Aug 21, 2017 at 10:55 PM
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    I'm getting a cap real soon… My issue is I want to be able to sit two people on top of the topper and the only two that can handle 500 pounds of weight are snugtops… The rebel and the xtravision – not exactly the best looking ones on the market
     
  22. Aug 22, 2017 at 3:10 AM
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    Call Leer and call ARE..I am sure they will give you the info, so that you get the right topper.
     
  23. Aug 28, 2017 at 8:09 PM
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    I think the cx hd has a built in aluminum frame to support just the rack rated at 550lbs so you can easily have any rtt or other topper racks/gear!
     
  24. Aug 29, 2017 at 5:37 AM
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    I'm sure a fabricator could build you an internal support system like ARE. You might be able to add some cool stuff to an internal rack support.
     
  25. Aug 29, 2017 at 10:37 AM
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    There is more than one way to skin the cat. I had a custom ladder rack built, with walk boards. So if you need to put a lot of weight over a camper shell. I would bet it on it taking 2,000lbs in a static situation. The guys who build them told me some interesting stories of what they hauled. And that diamond plate rail that the rack mounts to? Goes over the bed rail, bends down 90 and bolts to the bed rail. The big saddles with rollers are removeable. The short pieces are a ladder, and I had them put the rear rail out that far, so if I miss the rack, I don't break my window, AND so I can tie down from the bar to a load sticking way out the bed.
     
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    Forgot all about my Gen. 1 setup. This rack had mounting plates that bolted to the top of the bed rails. The shell was cut a little to get around the mounts. It was stout and I would not have thought anything of putting 500# up there and heading off down the highway. I have seen quite a few trucks belonging to contractor types with this setup. Sorry but I can't remember the manufacturer.

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