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Need advice on choosing the correct hitch

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by CreekDweller, Sep 24, 2020.

  1. Sep 28, 2020 at 11:52 AM
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    CreekDweller

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    Burrito --

    I'm not interested in getting into the auxiliary trans cooler issue again either, but you leave me no choice but to respond to you because the tone of your post suggests that I'm ignorant of the facts in this situation - I am not, and I don't need you to set me straight or to weigh in with your "here we go again" comment. Keeping these forums civil is important if we want to keep them healthy and treating each other with some respect and not assuming the worst about someone would be helpful in that regard.

    To your point however, I know exactly what Toyota did in making this change and what they wrote on the sticker did not reflect the change that took place; perhaps you don't know this because you have a 2014 model. I believe it is clear that they misrepresented the presence of an ATF aux. cooler in the 2019 and 2020 models. The sticker on my 2020 says that it has a transmission cooler, and what you said above isn't wrong - there is a "cooler" but it is the same part that before 2019 was identified as a "warmer". With the 2021 models (with the same setup as 2019 and 2020) they now have removed the trans cooler language from the sticker. That makes it clear they knew what was on the sticker in 2019 and 2020 was a problem.

    And while it is clear that the cooing/warming puck does cool the transmission fluid to a limited extent, I'm sure you know from reading elsewhere on this site, it is often inadequate to cool the transmission when towing. You must have read the many reports of excessive transmission temperatures when towing.

    At this point we are way off track from the original topic. Thanks for your input.
     
  2. Sep 28, 2020 at 12:59 PM
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    I think what he ment by his comments is that the topic has a dedicated thread and has been beaten to death.
     
  3. Sep 28, 2020 at 1:05 PM
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    Back in 2006, my Tundra came with a hitch but not ball or mount either. I don't recall every seeing a new Tundra on a lot with a ball on it.
     
  4. Sep 28, 2020 at 1:11 PM
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    With a ball or a ball mount? I wouldn't expect to get a ball, though you can pay the dealership $65 for one (or just go to Canadian Tire and pick one up for $20). In my opinion, there is no way a ball mount shouldn't be included. Mine was in a box under the back seat, not in the receiver itself.
     
  5. Sep 28, 2020 at 1:27 PM
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    I don't disagree. It has been discussed a lot. My observation was in response to another poster saying that the ball mount had been included some years ago and I observed that perhaps this is part of 'de-contenting' the Tundra to keep prices stable.
     
  6. Sep 28, 2020 at 1:54 PM
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    Nothing, just the hitch and the receiver, back in 2006. In fact, same thing with my 2002, just a hitch and receiver. Both bought new off the lot.
     
  7. Sep 28, 2020 at 2:35 PM
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  8. Sep 28, 2020 at 2:47 PM
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    My question was in reference to "I don't recall ever seeing a new Tundra on a lot with a ball on it." Did you mean with a ball or with a ball mount?

    I asked because I wouldn't expect to get a ball with a new truck but I would expect to get a ball mount. But you're not going to see it in the receivers on the trucks on the lot because Toyota puts it in a box under the back seat at the factory. If your dealership is stealing those and then trying to sell them to you, it's time to find a new dealership.
     
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  9. Sep 28, 2020 at 2:53 PM
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    All I can say is that my 2002, 2006, 2020, all new, different So Cal dealers, no ball mounts.
     
  10. Sep 28, 2020 at 2:59 PM
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    I think this is a Canada thing. No ball mounts in the USA trucks.
     
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  11. Sep 28, 2020 at 3:29 PM
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    Very weird
     
  12. Sep 28, 2020 at 3:40 PM
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    Some Americans have gotten the ball mount. Weird that the Texas plant would not put the mount in the truck of the US and Canada would get it. Next time someone is in the showroom lift up the seat and check for the box containing the mount.

    Do Americans get the locking wheel nut kit?
     
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  13. Sep 28, 2020 at 3:41 PM
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    It’s an option. Not standard. Didn’t come on my upgraded (BSM, RCTA, sunroof) Limited.
     
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    The locking wheel nuts or the mount?
     
  15. Sep 28, 2020 at 3:44 PM
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    Locking wheel nuts = option that didn’t come with my truck.

    Ball mount = never seen one sold with a truck or seen listed as an option.
     
  16. Sep 28, 2020 at 3:50 PM
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    So why can you add a ball when you build and price a truck but not a ball mount? Seems to imply the ball mount should be included.

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    Regional differences I guess. Some regions offer the locking tailgate lock as an option it seems, but not in my region. Maybe some regions offer it as an option, but I wonder if it is included in the itemized price, and not 'free' if provided.
     
  18. Sep 28, 2020 at 4:06 PM
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    Ive been running the same hitch for the last 3 years. With a hitch tighter on it to keep from rattling. The combo works great, I really like the adjustment, I’ve needed the 2-5/16 ball a few times and nice not to carry two separate hitches. That and a Ranchand Steel rear bumper helps keep tailgaters at bae.

    LIBERRWAY Hitch Tightener for 1.25" and 2" Hitches 304 Stainless Steel Hitch Tightener Anti-Rattle Stabilizer Rust-Free Heavy Duty Lock Down Easy Installation Quiet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KZ25Y26/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fab_pQMCFbMSVQVJ0


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    Hitch tightener is a must for nearly all hitch applications honestly.
     
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    I was able to find a tow ball on an accessories add-on page but still no ball mount.
    Should this be near the jack and spare tire tools?
     
  21. Sep 28, 2020 at 4:33 PM
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    Watch, we all have it and don't realize it :eek2:
     
  22. Sep 28, 2020 at 4:34 PM
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    That's where I keep mine but when I picked up my truck, it was just in a box in the floor in the back.
     
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    I just got a 2020 SR5 2 weeks ago and it came with mount/pin in box under backseat.

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    This is the mount I’ve been using for a couple years now, I like it because you can adjust height with everything still hooked up. Just pull the pin and use the trailer jack to get it where you want it. And it puts the tongue a little further behind the bumper and lets you cut a lot further before having to worry about putting trailer in your bumper.

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    20200928_184437.jpg Here's the box mine came in. It does have a part number on it, so maybe it's something my dealership orders and throws in on every new truck. They didn't mention it, other than to tell me it was there, but they also gave me a set of bed cleats, all weather floor mats and locking lug nuts.
     
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    Everything you mentioned is what is in the truck when it comes from the factory. As part of the PDI the bed cleats and the locking wheel nuts are installed, the extra weather floor mats and the ball mount are placed on the back floor.
     
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    Google "Curt Forged Ball Mount" and be done with it. Cost is a little more, but you'll never have a weld failure.
     
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    My weather mats were installed and my cleats were left in the box. :p
     
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    We have a Toyota PDI sheet that has to be followed and checked off. Bed cleats have to be installed and carpet mats remain in place with weather mats place in the back. You had a lazy PDI guy.
     
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