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Lug nut removal without key

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by cctxquicksand, May 3, 2021.

  1. May 3, 2021 at 5:31 PM
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    cctxquicksand

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    This is a tricky one, trying to remove a set of rays Duranuts but I can’t find my key! I’m sure it will turn up in a day or two when I no longer am itching to mount these bad boys
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    but let’s just say I don’t find it... what then? I have tried fitting a socket and jamming with a hammer but the lock is seven sides so no parallel sides for it to lock onto and it was super soft and was rounding the edges. I tried chiseling it but the aluminum is just too soft. I had discount tire try with there fancy lug removal kit and same results too soft to grip. Tried chiseling a slot of a screwdriver but... nothing... am I really going to have to drill these out of do you guys know a trick?
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    Not a lot of room to work with here and really trying not to damage these pricey wheels
     
  2. May 3, 2021 at 5:35 PM
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    Hammer a 12 point socket? It looks like you’re already starting to jack up the wheel. Keep looking for the key!
     
  3. May 3, 2021 at 5:41 PM
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    The redneck option, assuming you have access to a welder, is you can weld a large nut or bar to it. It will probably mean some scorch marks. There is also a tool that tire shops use, it will trash the lug but will come off. But pretty cheap service generally and probably your best bet.
     
  4. May 3, 2021 at 5:55 PM
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    Alot of them
    If you had the key code for the lock the manufacturer could sell you a replacement key. I had to do that with a McGard lock a couple of years ago.
     
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  5. May 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM
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    He did mention it was “soft aluminum” weld a steel nut to an aluminum lug?
    I’d also say he is past the trashing the lug point based on the pictures.
     
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  7. May 3, 2021 at 8:33 PM
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    This idea may work I’ve never seen one this thin walled but I’d need one a bit bigger. I had to hammer on a 20mm socket and it would probably have to be either a universal or a 12 pointer. Thanks for the suggestion I’ll look into finding one

    probably going to try a few tire places before work tomorrow I can’t be the only one this has happened too. I just don’t know if I trust old tire tech joe to be careful with my gramlights.
     
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  8. May 3, 2021 at 8:36 PM
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    The key code is in the key :mad:
    I was talking to showstoppers offroad and apparently Ray’s makes 16 different keys and you have to show proof of purchase to get a replacement from mackin industries.
     
  9. May 3, 2021 at 9:12 PM
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    You might try the Toyota dealership.
    They forgot to give me my key back a few years ago after a tire rotation.
    I went back the next day and they had a box full of lug keys.
    Found one that fit mine and gave it to me....

    I have TRD spine lugs and locks now.
    Ordered a second key when I bought them.
    One is in the console, one is in the swing case..
     
  10. May 3, 2021 at 9:18 PM
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    I lost my key and just ended up using the closest size socket and just hammering it on, worked pretty good - has to be tight. Lugs nuts are useless anyways since you don't have the key so destroying them to get them off shouldn't be an issue.
     
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    The dealership will have the means of removing it. They deal with that sorta thing every day. Also any tire shop will have a "lug lock remover" it's a tapered socket you hammer on designed for your type of problem.
     
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  13. May 6, 2021 at 6:31 PM
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    Another day of no luck. Tried multiple tire shops and no one would touch them. Bought a couple different lug nut removers from auto part stores and nothing can bite.
     
  14. May 6, 2021 at 6:33 PM
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    upload_2021-5-6_20-32-6.jpg
    the lug nut currently...

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  15. May 6, 2021 at 6:45 PM
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    That sucks.

    Last resort is to drill through the lug nut and drill out the stud. Use progressively bigger bits. First hole needs to be dead center.
     
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    Well, on the plus side I guess you know the lugs worked as advertised...still, that sucks!
     
  18. May 6, 2021 at 7:21 PM
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    That sucks. I guess if I didn’t care about the rim I’d just burn it off. I think you need a slightly larger socket to hammer on. The scuff marks don’t look like they go deep enough to get a good purchase on what’s left.
     
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    I was thinking the same but yeah it does suck
     
  21. May 6, 2021 at 7:41 PM
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    But you could measure your lugs and that would narrow it down.

    Also, the code is on the lug near the bottom. Get a light and scope around for the number, then buy that key
     
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    I ordered the one that was closest to what I have... shipping was more than the key itself

    thanks for link
     
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    Here’s hoping :fingerscrossed:
     
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    Seem like good lug nuts anti theft
     
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    @cctxquicksand you lucked out with ordering the correct one?!?!? Sweet

    glad it worked out for ya buddy!
     
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