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Level Kit vs Bilstein Front Shocks?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by jay131866, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Feb 4, 2017 at 8:41 AM
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    16tunterd

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    Yep, top setting.

    Depends on your budget. LT with secondary bypasses would probably be the best ride but not terribly practical or affordable. A re-buildable c/o Like Fox, King, ADS, Icon would be 2nd IMO. Toytec is really popular on this forum and gets great feedback. Pro, or Bilstein 6112 then OME or 5100. This is just my personal order. The bigger the tire you're gonna run, the better shock you should have IMO. And, your intended use of course. Best of luck with your decision. Really, not a bad problem to have....Hmmmm How to upgrade my great truck with new shocks?
     
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  2. Feb 4, 2017 at 9:46 AM
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    This^^

    I just found out the 6112's are rebuild able, but you have to send them out to Bilstein. Seems like only a select special few can rebuild their own anyway.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2017 at 1:17 PM
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    This can be overwhelming for sure. There is new place here in Brownsburg,Indy Pro Trucks. I popped in and said hello. Told Scott I wanted a 3/1 LL and a good ride (no off roading on purpose). He suggested the Fox Adventure 2.0 over the Bilstiens. Installed out the door for under 1k. I think it's good and as much as anything I'm building a relationship w a local shop. "Small Business Saturday" here in local Indiana
     
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  4. Feb 7, 2017 at 10:38 AM
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    I have heard that the 1.9" setting (middle one) gives you a level ride and the highest will give you a little bro lean. I am curious myself because if I do not get a Pro then I will be getting some 6112s for the SR5 that I buy.
     
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  5. Feb 7, 2017 at 2:32 PM
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    --Feel free to use me as your guinea pig. My 6112's were shipped yesterday. I have 5100's on the way for the rear. I am using Toytec shackles that have a 1" or 1.5" lift option for the rear. The max raised height for the Bilstein 5100 rears is 1", so I will set the shackles at the 1" setting. 6112's will be at max height. Someone asked earlier if the 5100 rears will raise the truck any---answer is no and why I'll be adding the 1" shackles. I will post pictures of it in a week or two when I'm done because the Bilstein 5100 vs 6112 vs. OME conversation has been stout as of late.
    --STIFF ASS RIDE-- I hate a super stiff ride and EVERYONE I talked to (mechanics and vendors) said the OME ride is VERY stiff due to the springs. My last Tundra was a 2010 TRD package and that truck bucked on the highway like a drunk **** date here in Colorado (I-25). As much as I spend time off road it was a really annoying while in town. Then I tried to save money and did a Toytec spacer level kit. It looked amazing but the ride got even worse!
    --Why I went 6112-- The shock is beefier than the 5100's/ The kit has new springs rated at 650lbs. I talked with a gentleman that specializes in Toyota's and has a TON of level and lift kits on Tundras. He told me that if you max out the height on the 5100's up front he has to compress the spring more to fit it which equals a stiff ride up front. NOT AN OPTION for me. That being said, if I was choosing between spacer level kit and 5100 shock leveling I would go 5100's to level ALL THE WAY!!! It's minimally more expensive and doesn't stress all of the moving parts up front.
    --COMFORT-- I will be towing a travel trailer all over the fricken place with my family in the truck so I need it to ride smooth. And when we get to our destination and plant the trailer it is adventure time in the back country off the beaten path.
    --Why not 5160's for the rear?-- Because they cost 100$ more per shock. Unless you are doing serious rock crawling why would anyone need an extra reservoir? The 5100's are already an upgrade from stock and TRD bilsteins.

    ----Just my Opinion---- P.S. TUNDRAS.COM IS LIKE CRACK!!!!
     
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  6. Feb 7, 2017 at 5:15 PM
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    Couldn't have said it better. This is the same route that I am going as well. Thanks for the write up. I just ordered the same setup last night.
     
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  7. Feb 7, 2017 at 6:43 PM
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    I am looking for the same thing "fly'n family". looking for level look on my platinum and very nice ride. Will do occasional dirt road but nothing like i did with my 1982 SR5 back in the day. I am pretty sure I am going with the 6112s up frot and 5100 in rear. Just saving up some cash. I did see a TRD pro set of shocks brand new on the for sale page here on the site.....real good price compared to new off internet
     
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  8. Feb 8, 2017 at 6:27 AM
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    Comparing prices: 5100s are about $210/pair and the 6112s are over $600/pair!! I know the 6112s come with new springs but man...for leveling on a budget, and little off-roading, how does one justify the cost difference?
     
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    Hold each in one hand and you may understand.

    You have a better spring and a shock that is close to twice the size. It is comparable to upgrading from a Fox 2.0 to a Fox 2.5. The ride difference is probably night and day.

    Why would anyone do a full coilover over a 5100? Most of these trucks are pavement riders.
     
  10. Feb 8, 2017 at 8:27 AM
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    -You are Absolutely right! I am able to spend the extra money but it took me two weeks to decide not to go with 5100's all the way around! The 5100 set up, for the money, is the way to go for leveling on a budget/ I bought an older 2008 with 93,000 miles on it after my last truck got totaled. So I wanted to replace the Springs anyway. Had I bought a newer vehicle I would have gone with 5100's and been fine with a firmer ride for the money I saved/ I'm also buying an ARB bumper and winch for hunting season and with that extra weight I need more support up front
     
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    I def understand that the 6112s are a huge upgrade to the 5100s. BUT I think I'll go the 5100 route. I have a tough time justifying in my mind replacing fronts that only have ~50k miles on them. I'm OK with my current ride and the 5100s will be an upgrade in ride quality as well as give me the leveling I'm looking for. For the occasional drive at the farm to get firewood or go hunting I'm sure they will be fine.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM
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    You'll absolutely be fine 5100s. That's the beauty of our trucks, lots of suspension options and you get to select one tailored to meet your specific demands. The hardest part is deciding what to buy. Kid in a Candy store!
     
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    Love my OME setup.
     
  14. Feb 15, 2017 at 11:38 AM
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    I put the Coachbuilder 3" shackles in the rear for lift of approx 1 3/4". Should I replace the factory shocks in the rear? If so, with what? Thanks in advance.
     
  15. Feb 15, 2017 at 11:44 AM
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    I checked with a few 4wd speciality shops regarding Leveling options and prices. Way too pricey. Average quote for just level kit with alignment ~$465. Bilstein all around with alignment $999.

    I ordered Bilstein 5100 set $352 Amazon prime. Local shop placed them for $180 after initial quote of $250. Alignment $50.12.

    Definitely pays to slow down and shop around.
     
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  16. Feb 17, 2017 at 7:03 AM
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    I know who you're talking about. They pissed me off!! I put 3" BDS spacers in front and 3" Coachworks shackles in rear. If you want to see it in person, I'm 5 mins from you!
     
  17. Feb 17, 2017 at 7:20 AM
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    On my last truck, I had spacers that raised the front nearly two inches. That was a Nissan Titan. I had them on for 130,000 miles and had no issues. The only initial problem I had was due to the dealer not installing them correctly. I finally got fed up and took it to a local shop and they spotted the problem immediately and corrected it.

    If you trust the shop you deal with then that should be good enough since they "will" stand behind the product they suggested.

    My local 4 wheel drive shop discussed with me all options and I feel very confident going with the Bilstein set up. My theory....my truck, my money, my informed decision.

    Good Luck guys!
     
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