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Let's talk Leaf packs

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by dcsleeper408, Feb 23, 2018.

  1. Mar 13, 2018 at 3:02 PM
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    well they are in a time out right now in the drive way... and will be there for a while till they learn to behave properly!
     
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  2. Mar 13, 2018 at 4:19 PM
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    Well now I'm all sorts of confused. One of the vendors I have used in the past called ARB/OME to see what length shocks they use with the Dakar rear leafs so I could order a set of Kings that matches - the off the shelf Kings are actually .5" LONGER than the Old Man Emu Nitrocharger Shocks, so he thinks they would work just fine.
     
  3. Mar 13, 2018 at 5:33 PM
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    As far as the Icon ride goes, mine road very comfy with 600lb springs and 2.0s in the back. Now with 700lb springs and 2.5s in the back it’s a lot firmer, but I don’t see it as a bad thing.
    As far as the OME leaf pack, I recently saw a guy post pics of his 6month old set where the bushing was completely gone, luckily they warrantied it. Personally I’ve grown to hate overload springs like some of the others here so I’m going to avoid the OMEs and get something different.
     
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  4. Mar 13, 2018 at 5:35 PM
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    Are you just OME leafs no longer shackles??

    Is so then yes Kings or ads would work.. if you had longer or shackles then you would need what I have
     
  5. Mar 13, 2018 at 5:40 PM
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    I have ome’s They did me well for the price... but they are not atlas or deaver... I would avoid if serious about off-roading or carrying weight unless you run additional airbags for heavy loads... mine now look like “W’s” 3 years later but they never failed me despite the absurd abuse I put them through..
     
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  6. Mar 13, 2018 at 6:43 PM
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    I was planning on just the OME leafs. I think Deaver makes a better product but it requires longer shackles. Longer shackles = a custom shock (from what I’ve been told).
     
  7. Mar 13, 2018 at 7:02 PM
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    I ran Deavers and longer shackles with King oem replacement shocks.
     
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  8. Mar 13, 2018 at 7:10 PM
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    Or that and I sell you my ads for a discounted price and you get it set up perfect cause I have those custom length
     
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  9. Mar 14, 2018 at 4:34 AM
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    Icons are uncomfortable on your wallet...

    Kevin refuses to ride in The Truck :rofl:
     
  10. Mar 14, 2018 at 10:04 AM
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    I believe Lisa is the only one who got an invite... :bananadead:

    Can't blame you though - she's cuter than me.
     
  11. Mar 21, 2018 at 5:22 AM
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    All work done by DMZ Fab and Race Prep. Not cheap, but quality of fabrication is top-notch. Deaver built some amazing packs. They ride super soft, even when unloaded. I will load up my full gear weight this weekend, but I don't expect it to sag more than an inch, if that.

    Going with wider leaf packs helped a lot. More spring material supports the weight a lot better. 2.25" wide is just too thin for proper leaf packs on a heavy truck

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  12. Mar 21, 2018 at 6:05 AM
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    sell that front hanger kit and hell have some business

    youre truck looks so much better with rake
     
  13. Mar 21, 2018 at 7:25 AM
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    Bad ass!
    Whole setup is Beef! Did you guys drop the gas tank to get the front hangers on? What is the hoop above the new hanger?
     
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  14. Mar 21, 2018 at 7:33 AM
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    No didn't have to drop the tank. There is plenty of room to work on the hangers. The hoop above the hangers is the frame mounts for the bed cage. I have pics of the cage in my build thread in my signature
     
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  15. Mar 21, 2018 at 7:39 AM
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    Yeah i wasn't so sure if those were new.
     
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    Tim is very knowledgeable and does fantastic work!
     
  17. Mar 21, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    Looks amazing and I do agree about the wider packs. It does make quite a bit of difference.
     
  18. Mar 21, 2018 at 8:58 AM
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    I was gonna tag you...
     
  19. Mar 31, 2018 at 2:29 PM
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    Ok, so, question. I was just under the truck checking on bolts and whatnots. Leaves are basically flat.

    Driver side
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    Passenger side
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    I think I’m going to have to make some changes. They’ve been on the truck for 8 months. Just a bit over 7000 miles. It’s been on a handful of dirt excursions, nothing crazy. There’s a topper, Decked drawers (one drawer full with recovery gear), bumper with swing outs and a mounted full size spare.

    This is my first full size truck and leaf spring experience. What should the life expectancy of U748s be? When would these be considered done? I totally understand the pay to play aspect but these shouldn’t be an annually replaced part, should they? Truck still handles great. Doesn’t feel loose. Doesn’t pogo down the road or anything.

    I guess my options would be custom packs from Deaver or Alcan. Do I want to consider the 3” width? Alcan is way more convenient than Deaver since they are just over the hill. I’d rather drive over and pick them up than think about shipping cost...

    Appreciate any and all input. Bonus points available for being a smart ass. Looking at you Mr. @KevinK...
     
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  20. Mar 31, 2018 at 3:01 PM
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    Short answer yes. Go get your truck weighed. I am in the same boat. Only difference I have a cargo glide on top of the decked. The drawers are rated to hold 200 lbs each. I am not done yet adding weight. With just me in the truck and a full tank of gas 7,020 lbs.
     
  21. Mar 31, 2018 at 3:06 PM
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    I don't think those springs are designed to carry that among of weight. I am going to add some timbre. I have been looking at the icon rxt. You can configure those for 750 lbs. I don't think they last . If I was that close to Atlas, I be knocking on their door.
     
  22. Mar 31, 2018 at 3:29 PM
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    I could totally be a smart ass if I wasn’t on stock springs. :anonymous:

    In reality the stocks have held up really well. Yeah the overload spring can cause bucking, but some rebound damping on the bypass shocks really helps tame that. I’m seriously considering just adding some icon bumps and calling it done until there’s more results on the rxt, 3” wide, and spring under (whatever pack @n2deep is looking at).

    I get that the deavers and Alcon and everything else is supposed to be progressive, but I think that’s what’s killing them.

    I know several guys have had success getting their springs rearched. If there’s a place local to you, that would be a good start. Also, get on a Cat scale at a truck stop and see how much your fat ass weighs.

    Oh look. I was able to be a smart ass after all. :rofl:
     
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    @smslavin Thanks for the update. This is getting really frustrating - I need to buy suspension next week for a 4-5 day trip upcoming in 2 months. I'm going to have pretty much the same set up as you except a roof rack and awning instead of a rear bumper and I'm reading about the Dakar's and now the U748's, both 2" "expo" leaf springs that allow you to run an off-the-shelf rear shock going flat after less than a year of use. Is there a winner out there somewhere? I see Icon has their RXT set but they recommend pairing them with the custom shocks made for the pack, something I don't want to do.
     
  24. Mar 31, 2018 at 7:25 PM
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    Who knows what I will end up with. Spending all my LT money since its taking so long , so may just have to stick with what I have. I just dropped my leafs off to get rearched and add a leaf. Once I shed weight I might be fine.
     
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    so much for the U748s able to handle a constant load...grrr...If I were you, pick the local guy, easy to go there when it's time to fix.
    I picked Deaver because they are only 10 miles from me. When my K37s start to get flat, I will go knock at their door.
     
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  26. Mar 31, 2018 at 9:14 PM
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    i rearched my deaver u748 to get about 2.5in more ride height in the rear..they perform way better now
     
  27. Mar 31, 2018 at 9:50 PM
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    Oside,

    Whats up man. I'm really interested to know what springs you and Tim installed. Do you mind giving specs or model?

    Thanks brother,

    Socal
     
  28. Apr 1, 2018 at 3:11 AM
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    custom 3in wide(raptor width) from deaver...
     
  29. Apr 1, 2018 at 1:34 PM
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    What Zack said ^^

    The long travel packs for tundra are I96 leafs. They're 2.25" wide. I had Jeff at Deaver make a pack that was the same length, but 3" wide with two main leafs and double military wraps. He speccd it for my exact axle weight (weighed at a local cat scale)

    They are spectacular! Solved all my problems. I gained about a 4-6" lift (I didn't really measure) and they ride super soft. I got so excited I went and threw on some 37s, 800# coils and added another inch of lift in the front:

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  30. Apr 1, 2018 at 3:40 PM
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    Amazing how proportionally correct it looks now. I can’t wait to hear how it wheels.
     

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