Is the Tundra Hybrid worth it?

Right! So tell me what are the plus sides of the hybrid again? Haha Also, from what I have been seeing is many aftermarket things are not made for the hybrid. Like front bumpers. And adding aftermarket off-road lights if you're into that, seem like a huge hassle.

 

I'm betting that a non hybrid Tundra is going to hold its value longer than a hybrid. If you wanted to sell your used Tundra truck say 8 to 10 years from now and a buyer had a choice between a non hybrid and a hybrid assuming the same model, mileage and condition they will probably go for about the same price. Yet upfront cost for the hybid was higher and buyer will always ask about the battery condition and expect a discount if it has not been replaced.

 

At their current depreciation rate, you'll probably have to pay someone to take a Gen 3 Tundra off your hands in 10 years.

 

It's bad now, but it will flatten out.

 

In that case, I'll still save money.

 

nope (not any real amount, its like 50-80lbs less), it has a higher GVWR

I proposed long ago, and in addition to my trademark #notryan, the following idea for toyota

offer the non-hybrid with the hybrid GVWR and poof you have a payload package option

real platinum crewmax fully loaded payload of 1700-1800 or so, and even more on the lower trim trucks.

like real payload not marketing brochure payload.

anyways, at least we got more payload than my last tundra platinum, my 2016 I couldn't even get in and have 1,000lbs...

 

where are you checking your value like KBB?

 

I didn't have to choose between the two,mine came standard,and absolutely love it!

 

583 lb ft torque…

Suits my needs for towing a 7k+ camper long distances. Glad I got the auto leveling. Makes towing a breeze & no fatigue at the end of a full day of towing. I have well over 20k miles towing & couldn’t be happier.

 

Yup. The last gen can’t hold a candle to the 583 lb ft of torque this iForce max has. This platform is a monster for towing. The auto leveling would be nice! I actually purchased the Timbren SES system for my truck and it makes a world of difference too!

 

See, this is the hyperbole that makes it all seem silly.

Yes, that's a ton of torque. It'll help get a heavier trailer moving from a start and it'll help while it's going uphill.

Other than those two instances, it isn't using all that torque. Plus, it can't sustain that torque for more than a minute. Long uphill pulls one after another, like what are found throughout the Rockies, are going to eat up the battery capacity in a hurry, and then it will tow no better than a non hybrid. The non-hybrid isn't light years head of the 5.7 in hp or torque, and more of its advantages come from the 4 extra gears in the transmission.

I'm sure it's great in flatlands or places that have one pass to ascend, but for many the juice just isnt worth the squeeze.

I get that you love your truck, but let's at least try to be honest about it.

 

Exactly. Correct me if I am wrong, the hybrid turns off at a certain speed and the engine runs for that. Example: highway speeds. So the hybrid isn't even relevant at highway speeds...

 

Its not used for cruising, but it will kick in at speed for inclines and such.

 

No, it isn't disabled. It is used at highway speeds in certain scenarios.

 

also, though, remember about the non- hybrid vs the 5.7, (and no Im saying light years better, nothing is, but it also has the below advantages you didnt list that help it outperform it.)

few more things to consider, it makes more torque and also lower torque peak by 1,000 rpm, thats a lot in towing applications and also forced induction at altitude , so there are cases where it is actually a big difference or can be anyways.

 

If the Tundra hybrid was like Ford's Powerboost it would be a must-buy. Instead I'll take the storage in the back for random stuff I rarely need/use, but it's there.

 

only as it pertains to the storage and generator, lol, Im with you there.

but the powerboost is also the most problematic model they have from everything I see, and well tested..

 

For sure it has its advantages, but I think a 10 speed behind the 5.7 would close a lot of the gap. Doesn't matter. It's not an option, so that's just speculation.

I just don't care for the excessive worship some 3rd gen owners throw on our trucks. It's not like it's even class leading in half tons, so it really does come off as disingenuous ego stroking to confirm a bias and to justify a purchase. There's no objectivity in that kind of nonsense.

 

It seems like 3rd Gen'ers are better than 2nd Gen'ers at shitting on other 3rd Gen trucks.

I hope the OP got his answers by now.

 

Being objective isn't shitting on it.

 

I couldn't have said it better.

That little electric motor wouldn't do squat to help towing over many of the Rocky Mountain passes I drive regularly. The battery capacity would be toast in the first few miles. Then the whole hybrid system would be nothing but additional weight.

 

I have the dubious honour of having had first a 2023 Tundra Platinum, and then a 2022 1794 Hybrid. The first truck, the 2023, was ordered, I received it about 5 months later, and then after having it for just over a year, it was stolen from the Toronto Airport. After months of haggling with the insurance company, and getting the truck moved back home to London from Montreal (it was headed overseas), it was examined for repair viability. It was deemed a write-off shortly after examination by an excellent adjuster. I was so messed up from the whole experience that I swore I wouldn't get another truck to replace the stolen one. Time went by, we were down to one vehicle being a 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe fully loaded, and after 5 months or so my wife, and after 30 years of marriage, she confirmed that she's a bigtime keeper. She found a 2022 1794 mesquite coloured Hybrid with 40k kilometers at the dealership I had always dealt/deal with. It literally, short of a factory lift, had every option you could get at the time of purchase.

The differences of the two trucks isn't extreme, notwithstanding the air suspension(great ride and ability to change the ride feel based on need/want), and the significant horsepower jump from the hybrid battery augmentation. The ability to haul a significantly larger amount of weight was/is kind of lost on me as I rarely tow, and unless I drove each truck within minutes of each other, I'd be hard pressed to justify the cost difference. The trim level difference of a 1794 vs the Platinum is pretty small, but the Mesquite colour option and the tan leather interior really set the 1794 Hybrid apart. One additional thing, and both trucks had it, is the leg extension in the drivers seat. For the taller man it makes longer rides very comfortable. The Hybrid goes like a scalded cat, but the downside is that it has the additional weight to deal with, not to mention the loss of the storage space under the back seat. Don't expect an increase in fuel economy with the hybrid, and to be fair, Toyota doesn't market it based on fuel savings. It is a hauler, and very powerful compared to the standard turbo six.

So, when you look at them both, I'd be recommending the hybrid for it's power and towing ability over the Platinum if I towed regularly, but the Platinum certainly was a very capable truck. I really like the mesquite colour of the 1794, it just really has a deep luster and I get constant comments on it. Hope this makes things a little clearer for you.

 

I get that thought, but it doesnt seem like thats that prevalent here, do you have an example of what irritates you, Im kinda curious what we are talking about here.

seems like the gen 3 guys mainly pipe up about things in defense of the gen 2/2.5 guys (mainly previously) constant bullshit. I will say most of that is over and now the I like the variety and most guys are great now.

on another note, there is an absolute SHIT TON of tundras in AZ where Im at, tons of badass lifted gen 2.5s, and some really awesome gen 3s, love it.

 

It's usually specific members that are gobbling on one gen or the others cock so hard they think the other gen is trash. They're in both the pro and anti 3rd gen groups.

I'm all for the friendly ball busting like the 1GT and 2GT guys have, but the 3GT brought new blood to the forum. Lots of it seems to be menstrual.

 

sorry you feel that way, I just dont see it that way more currently , but to each his own. I like them all, owned them all, each has its greatness and its downsides.

I still love Godzilla, HA

 

Seems like this post you just made is pretty menstrual to me! I’m definitely not new blood here. I was just stating the facts, and the fact is, my truck tows my boat better than my 2020 did.

 

It's both sides, but usually the same people on repeat.

 

First, my post wasn't directed at any one individual. It was an observation about how the convos in the third gen area seem to go.

Second, the comment about new blood wasn't about just new members (which you definitely are) with third gens. It was more about a new wave of activity from new and old members, and both seem to get all knotted up with hating the "other guy's" truck. New blood = new life, and I used blood for the menstruation joke.

Third, nobody is denying the 3rd gen will tow better than the 2/2.5 gen. What's being discussed is whether of not it's "worth it." That is an individual decision with no right/wrong answer. It is subjective.

The hyperbolic better/worse comments just muddy the discussion, ad nauseum. They are tiresome. From both sides.

 

Drove 23 plat hybrid to dealership to test drive 25 plat non hybrid. After 45min test of the non hybrid I gave the keys back and left. Upgraded to 25 plat hybrid same price with a little search effort.

once you go hybrid you never go back!

 

Just stop. I’ve driven the hybrid. It’s fine. It’s enjoyable. Blah, blah, blah. I’m very happy with my non hybrid.

“Never go back!” lol