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Icon AAL vs custom build Deaver, shackles?

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by trayday, May 4, 2017.

  1. May 4, 2017 at 5:22 PM
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    I'm looking to replace my leaf springs. This is my daily driver that I regularly take off road through the sand dunes at higher speeds and washed out rutted roads at slower speeds. I also want to be able to tow 3-4k pounds. I was thinking of just having a custom Deaver set built to my needs, then I remembered about the Icon's. I called Deaver and they said that I need to use shackles for the leaf springs and that I could use the set that I have now from BDS. I also called another shop about the custom built Deaver's and they said that I don't need to use shackles. Which springs and with or without shackles?
     
  2. May 4, 2017 at 5:29 PM
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    My understanding was that it's required to run 3/4" shackles if you're running the Deaver K37 pack. It equals out to somewhere around 1.5-2" of lift. And from what I've been told you can still tow around 3k or so with the K37'a without them squatting. I've never seen anything say you HAVE to run shackles with the Icon pack. This question is really @Hattori's area of expertise.
     
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  3. May 4, 2017 at 5:54 PM
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    When I talked to Deaver, they said that I shouldn't use the K37 for the weight I'll be loaded with and that the best option would to be a custom build. My shackles from bolt to bolt is 6"
     
  4. May 4, 2017 at 6:12 PM
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  5. May 4, 2017 at 6:44 PM
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    Why not get the icon progressive leaf pack?
     
  6. May 4, 2017 at 6:54 PM
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    Isn't that the AAL?
     
  7. May 4, 2017 at 7:03 PM
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    Law323 it’s only weird if you make it weird

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    AAL is add a leaf, the icon progressive leaf pack doesn't make your ride stiffer like AAL's do. It retains your main leaf (not sure if that's what it's called) and replaces most of your stock leaves. AAL just adds one for more rigidity.
     
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  8. May 4, 2017 at 7:18 PM
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    Got you, that seems like a better option for what im trying to gain.
     
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  9. May 4, 2017 at 7:20 PM
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    That's the route I'm going once I upgrade to bigger tires. 1.5 inches would be too much for my puny 275/70's LOL
     
  10. May 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM
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    The Icon pack retains the main and overload leafs from your stock set, I believe its the top and the very bottom springs.
     
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  11. May 4, 2017 at 7:56 PM
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    Law323 it’s only weird if you make it weird

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    Thank you Zach! Overload springs, not main leaf LOL
     
  12. May 4, 2017 at 8:07 PM
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    Maybe its the fact that I spent all day in the sun, and haven't consumed enough beer yet, but I'm confused lol.
     
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  13. May 4, 2017 at 8:13 PM
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    I thought they were called main leaves. See post #7 LOL
     
  14. May 4, 2017 at 8:16 PM
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    Ha now I gotcha. Just a bit slow right now.
     
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    No worries brother! Been there more times than I care to count! LOL
     
  16. Mar 6, 2018 at 12:50 PM
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    Did anyone install the Icon progressive leaf pack?
    Any feedback?
    Looking for options, planning to swap out my 1" block in the rear.
     
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  17. Mar 6, 2018 at 12:53 PM
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    I've got it. There's considerable space between the leafs. I'll probably switch it out for the U748 pack.
     
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  18. Mar 6, 2018 at 3:29 PM
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    Considerable space? How so?
    Pictures of what you're experiencing?
     
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    Gaps, both sides, top leaf is OEM. The picture is taken from behind the rear wheel.
    IMG_20180306_161003108.jpg
     
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    Get the Icon RXT leaf pack. Trust me
     
  21. Mar 9, 2018 at 12:51 AM
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    The progressive pack sucks, go Deaver or Icon RXT. @14burrito and myself are having issues where they have flattened out and lost lift. To me they ride just like stock leafs except they cost an extra $275. I’ll be swapping mine out eventually and I’m leaning towards the Icon RXT pack.
     
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    Word!!!! You will love them.
     
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    No one runs OME leaf packs on tundras?i had them on my tacoma and they were great
     
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    i do. ome drakar and coach shackles per coachbuilders suggestion. cost effective (bought springs on Amazon) and fantastic results. call david @Coachbuilder1
     
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    what shackle did you go with?
     
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    thats his cell. i was able to reach him via text and phone. he assisted me during install after hours and on sat. spent a lot of time talking to me about options.
     
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