1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

I despise the Oil filter choice

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by kenomouth64, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Sep 9, 2017 at 10:33 PM
    #1
    kenomouth64

    kenomouth64 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Member:
    #5015
    Messages:
    860
    First Name:
    Tetrus
    Vehicle:
    2007 Toyota Tundra Sr5 4x4 (TRD Off Road) Crewmax 5.7L
    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    Does anyone have any recommendations for how to make the job of changing oil, less 'annoying'.

    To start with, I despise the plastic oil filter housing... this is the 4th time I have changed the oil on it and it drives me insane. Why could we have not just gone with a spin-on oil filter? It makes me wonder if there are any aftermarket solutions for this terrible engineering (in my opinion). Perhaps there is a conversion kit which would allow someone to use a spin-on oil filter, that would be AMAZING.

    Then the skid plate... it is a nightmare to try and get it back on, I ground those hooks off, I wanted to smash them after that but did not have time. I am thinking about cutting an access port, has anyone done this with it working?

    Now for my rant...

    A job that should take 30 minutes took 5.5 Hours, WHY?


    To begin with, three of the five bolts holding the skip plate on rusted out, then stripped the threads. I had to drill out the holes and go up to a larger size, after getting "the little boogers out". My drill bit also snapped inside one of the holes, so that was a 45 minute ordeal. Finally I got the damn skid plate off and prepared the holes for larger bolts, that hopefully will not rust...

    Then I notice the oil pan gasket is leaking again, Fuck my life, I thought I fixed that last time, I ended up not messing with it (looked like it leaked 1-2 oz per oil change).

    Then I move on to the "true nightmare", the oil filter housing, so many tears... I will not go through the whole spiel, I will just say at one point, I was considering chiseling out the entire plastic housing, then buying a new one at the dealer Monday. However what saved me were shop towels ( I swear I come up with so many uses for these!). I layered 4 shop towels inside of the oil filter housing removal tool, then used a mallet to seat the tool on the housing tightly. WOOLAH, it came off.
    [​IMG]

    Then while trying to get the tool off of the housing, I break the "spindle and associated components" out of the inside of the housing. I spent a good our getting everything bent and put back into place correctly.

    Then it was cake from there on, until it came to putting the damn skid plate back on, this took way too long, AS USAUL.

    Nevertheless, I completed the job and added a new engineer or engineering team to my shit list. Seriously is there a good reason why they did some of this, that I am not aware of?

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  2. Sep 9, 2017 at 10:43 PM
    #2
    ColoradoTJ

    ColoradoTJ Certified tow LEO Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    Member:
    #2766
    Messages:
    38,639
    Gender:
    Male
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    LML 3500HD, Roush Mustang, Jeep Crawler
    Calibrated Power 5 Tune pack, Allison 1000 tune, PPE deep trans pan, Cold/Hot CAC pipes, Banks CAI, PCV reroute, resonator delete, S&B 62 gal fuel tank, B&W GN hitch
    TRD Pro skid plate would help you out big time.

    I don't know of any cartridge filter bypass kits. I never had an issue changing out my oil and removing the skid plate. The hooks you cut off help out a bit. Hook them in, install rear bolts and then do the fronts.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2017
    15whtrd likes this.
  3. Sep 9, 2017 at 10:56 PM
    #3
    TXRailRoadBandit73

    TXRailRoadBandit73 YOTAS,RAILROADIN',RÖKnRÖLLN',BEER,MAX/GEMMA

    Joined:
    May 30, 2016
    Member:
    #3487
    Messages:
    50,542
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    The 956, TEXAS
    None yet
    Yikes! No bueno hope it gets better for you
     
    4x4_Angel likes this.
  4. Sep 10, 2017 at 3:21 AM
    #4
    Whocares

    Whocares Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2017
    Member:
    #9128
    Messages:
    126
    Gender:
    Male
    Rci also offers a skid plate with access to the oil filter via 2 Allen bolts. Install a fumuto oil drain valve and your concerns should be limited.
     
    Backslider likes this.
  5. Sep 10, 2017 at 5:51 AM
    #5
    MotoTundra

    MotoTundra The Ocho

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2014
    Member:
    #8
    Messages:
    7,652
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Don
    -TRS Mini D2S Retrofit on TRD Pro Headlights (Apollo 2.0 Shrouds, 35w XB Ballasts, 5500k Bulbs) -Baja Designs Squadron R Sport Aux lights. -TRD Pro Grill -TRD Rear Sway Bar -BakFlip VP Tonneau w/BakBox -Dipped wheels & bumpers -Iron Cross HD steps -Undercover Swingcase -SunTek Paint Protection film -Tinted glass -Bedmat -OEM Towing Mirrors
    I feel your pain @kenomouth64 , which is why I haven't even tried it myself, yet. With my previous vehicles (except one commuter car) I was sure to do each oil change myself. After hearing what a pain it is with our trucks I have decided I'm OK with paying the dealer to do it until I can get a different skid plate with an access door.

    I plan on scooping up a TRD Pro skid or an RCI skid, as they both have an access door, however they are pricey new and I haven't found any used locally, and probably never will. I did see that someone made their own access door on the stock skid. It didn't look to pretty but it definitely got the job done.

    Also do you recommend we replace the skid plate bolts with SS bolts to prevent any rust issues?
     
  6. Sep 10, 2017 at 7:17 AM
    #6
    Stig

    Stig New Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2016
    Member:
    #3475
    Messages:
    949
    How long since the last oil change? Did you buy brand new. I just find it odd that the Skid pan bolts would seize when it's something you should remove for oil change at least twice per year.

    You can replace the plastic filter cartridge with a metal one, but I've never had a problem. Actually with the right tools, this is the easiest oil change I've done on any vehicle. I can drain the oil directly into a container without a drop on the floor.
     
    Ericsopa and Bprose like this.
  7. Sep 10, 2017 at 7:29 AM
    #7
    Bprose

    Bprose Old member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2017
    Member:
    #5955
    Messages:
    1,599
    Gender:
    Male
    VA
    Vehicle:
    17 Tundra CM TRD
    I'm sort of liking it too. Just did the wife's Camry yesterday. It's the same sort if cartridge, just a little shorter. I get the filters off Amazon, buy about 3 at a time.

    Op, what part of country do you live in? You might try putting a little anti-seize on the bolts.
     
  8. Sep 10, 2017 at 7:33 AM
    #8
    RLHULK

    RLHULK Too many gamma rays in all that BBQ smoke.

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Member:
    #2054
    Messages:
    5,556
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rich
    Oklahoma, Toyota seat trim durability tester
    Vehicle:
    2022 Silverado LT.
    Still rolling stock baby....
    You can always leave the skid plate off if its a issue.
     
  9. Sep 10, 2017 at 8:12 AM
    #9
    TXMiamiFan

    TXMiamiFan SSEM #3 and tractor extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2015
    Member:
    #2160
    Messages:
    25,274
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jose
    Houston, TX
    Vehicle:
    2016 White Crew Max TRD
    TRD Pro Grille, ESP Storage, Tailgate Inserts, Line-X Bedliner, Weathertech Floorliners, Wet Okole Seat Covers, 5" Shorty Antenna, Mickey Thompson MM-366 Wheels, ToyTec Boss, 35" BFG KO2 to name a few.
    I stopped doing my own oil changes once it became a PITA like this and the hassle of dealing with recycling the used oil. Something to be said about doing your own maintenance, but it this case, more cost/time effective for me to just have the dealer do it.
     
    Black Wolf and BOBONTUESDAY like this.
  10. Sep 10, 2017 at 8:32 AM
    #10
    willrun4fun

    willrun4fun New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Member:
    #8785
    Messages:
    39
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2000 Limited 4wd
    Oil change takes like 10 minutes on my 2000. Easy spin on filter that you can reach from under the hood no issues.

    Plastic housing? Is it similar to the aluminum spin on canister my 2007 RAV4 3.5L has but plastic?
     
  11. Sep 10, 2017 at 10:54 AM
    #11
    mdavis

    mdavis I need a beer.

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Member:
    #966
    Messages:
    3,343
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Michael
    Rock Hill, SC
    Yeah our trucks come with plastic oil filter canisters. I replaced mine with the aluminum one on the first oil change. Just bought an aluminum one for my wife's Camry after cracking the plastic one during the last oil change. Dealer had that thing on there so tight it wouldn't budge. Ended up having it towed to them. $240 oil change... I was pissed.
    IMG_1784.jpg
     
    Sefferston likes this.
  12. Sep 10, 2017 at 1:05 PM
    #12
    Stig

    Stig New Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2016
    Member:
    #3475
    Messages:
    949

    And that is why I will never let a dealer change my oil. My wife's Lexus was purchased as a CPO vehicle, so not brand new. The first oil change I did on it was a messy one because I couldn't use the drain tool for the filter since the dealer tightened the filter drain plug cap so tight that the whole filter assembly just spun with it. It was so tight in fact, that I couldn't even get the drain cap loose after putting the canister in a vise and cranking with a cheater bar. That thing is supposed to be installed at a pretty low torque.

    Many other reasons not to let the dealer do it too, like the big waste of time it takes. I let them rotate my tires once, made an appointment for the first of the day at 7:30am, got there on time, but they didn't touch my truck until 8:30 and it was not done until 9. When I first brought it, I asked when it would be ready and I was told 15 minutes!
     
    mdavis[QUOTED] likes this.
  13. Sep 10, 2017 at 1:17 PM
    #13
    hillbillytoyo

    hillbillytoyo Just a country boy

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2017
    Member:
    #8395
    Messages:
    317
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Daniel
    WV
    Vehicle:
    21 Limited Cement CM TRD OF
    My truck is still new so I haven't changed my oil yet. But I have been checking out what tools I will need and looking at the process. I previously had an 08 Tacoma and the oil filter was right on top of the engine. My wife has a Volvo XC 90 and that's her filter is located on top as well. I really don't understand why some filters are in such a hard place to access.
     
  14. Sep 10, 2017 at 2:06 PM
    #14
    SailorRocco

    SailorRocco New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2016
    Member:
    #5532
    Messages:
    17
    Gender:
    Male
    New York
    Vehicle:
    2012 Mgm Tundra 5.7 TRD Off Road
    I cut a 6x6 hole in my skid plate, bought a metal cap and use the oil drain tool. It has made oil changes a lot easierIMG_3227.jpg
     
  15. Sep 10, 2017 at 2:10 PM
    #15
    mdavis

    mdavis I need a beer.

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Member:
    #966
    Messages:
    3,343
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Michael
    Rock Hill, SC
    Yeah it was so tight I ended up breaking the little tabs off that the tool fits around. Had to use a cheater bar to manage that. But when they broke off they cracked the housing as well and was leaking oil like crazy so I couldn't even drive it to the dealer, had to have it towed. I have no idea how they got it off.
     
    kenomouth64[OP] likes this.
  16. Sep 10, 2017 at 2:48 PM
    #16
    Sefferston

    Sefferston #37sandlongtravel

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Member:
    #1954
    Messages:
    1,194
    First Name:
    Seth
    Commufornia (not by choice)
    Vehicle:
    ERMERGERD TOYOTA
    This. I did it on my last Tundra, and doing it on this one when it's time for oil change.
     
  17. Sep 10, 2017 at 5:00 PM
    #17
    Tundra Fan

    Tundra Fan Got 17's?

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Member:
    #4489
    Messages:
    2,271
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Toby
    Nor Cal (Placer Co.)
    Vehicle:
    2013 Platinum-SOLD 2022 Sequoia, Celestial Silver Metallic
    Damn, and I thought my first oil change went bad. I was planning on cutting an access door in my skid plate when I did mine. I was saved that step. I may add the RCI skidplate down the road.
    I totally agree with you on the oil filter housing design. There are way to many pieces in that little bit of engineering. Spin on oil filters for the win.
     
    kenomouth64[OP] likes this.
  18. Sep 12, 2017 at 1:42 PM
    #18
    crishard

    crishard Occasional Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #5065
    Messages:
    120
    First Name:
    Cris
    Vehicle:
    2014 Barcelona Red CM
    3" level in front, ICI Bumper & Skid, 12k lb winch, UCAs, Radtech 2.5s, Kenda 35s, Dual Batteries, 3500w inverter
  19. Sep 12, 2017 at 1:56 PM
    #19
    TXRailRoadBandit73

    TXRailRoadBandit73 YOTAS,RAILROADIN',RÖKnRÖLLN',BEER,MAX/GEMMA

    Joined:
    May 30, 2016
    Member:
    #3487
    Messages:
    50,542
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    The 956, TEXAS
    None yet
  20. Sep 12, 2017 at 2:18 PM
    #20
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    41,483
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    I always used to change my oil. Not anymore. I've owned my Tundra over 3 years now. My neighborhood Grease Monkey has been doing the oil changes during that time with never an issue. I know the owner. Good guy. They did my rear diff gear oil change last year. Going to have them do the front diff and T case in a couple of weeks. I supply fluids..
     
    ChucklesToy likes this.
  21. Sep 12, 2017 at 6:11 PM
    #21
    kenomouth64

    kenomouth64 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Member:
    #5015
    Messages:
    860
    First Name:
    Tetrus
    Vehicle:
    2007 Toyota Tundra Sr5 4x4 (TRD Off Road) Crewmax 5.7L
    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    Nice! It is difficult to find shops that will let you supply them with the parts/fluids. None of the shops around where I live will do it. They all want their markup on the price...
     
  22. Sep 12, 2017 at 6:20 PM
    #22
    kenomouth64

    kenomouth64 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Member:
    #5015
    Messages:
    860
    First Name:
    Tetrus
    Vehicle:
    2007 Toyota Tundra Sr5 4x4 (TRD Off Road) Crewmax 5.7L
    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
  23. Sep 12, 2017 at 6:25 PM
    #23
    crishard

    crishard Occasional Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #5065
    Messages:
    120
    First Name:
    Cris
    Vehicle:
    2014 Barcelona Red CM
    3" level in front, ICI Bumper & Skid, 12k lb winch, UCAs, Radtech 2.5s, Kenda 35s, Dual Batteries, 3500w inverter
    It's ************** where all the asterisks are. The forum won't let me paste it in without doing that to the link. Looks pretty slick. I'd pay $200 to never have to deal with those frickin cartridges again.
    1452107530441-2107958540.jpg
     
    warrlong and kenomouth64[OP] like this.
  24. Sep 12, 2017 at 6:26 PM
    #24
    crishard

    crishard Occasional Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #5065
    Messages:
    120
    First Name:
    Cris
    Vehicle:
    2014 Barcelona Red CM
    3" level in front, ICI Bumper & Skid, 12k lb winch, UCAs, Radtech 2.5s, Kenda 35s, Dual Batteries, 3500w inverter
    ok. Lets try this: b p adapters dot com
     
    warrlong and kenomouth64[OP] like this.
  25. Sep 12, 2017 at 7:40 PM
    #25
    kenomouth64

    kenomouth64 [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2016
    Member:
    #5015
    Messages:
    860
    First Name:
    Tetrus
    Vehicle:
    2007 Toyota Tundra Sr5 4x4 (TRD Off Road) Crewmax 5.7L
    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    Very nice find! I might invest in one of these... bookmarked the page. For those who just got here the link is listed below:

    http://www.shop.+++/Spin-On-Oil-Filter-Adapter_c2.htm - Remove the +++ symbols and replace with the following (do not include spaces): b p adapters .com
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2017
    warrlong likes this.
  26. Sep 13, 2017 at 5:12 AM
    #26
    crishard

    crishard Occasional Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #5065
    Messages:
    120
    First Name:
    Cris
    Vehicle:
    2014 Barcelona Red CM
    3" level in front, ICI Bumper & Skid, 12k lb winch, UCAs, Radtech 2.5s, Kenda 35s, Dual Batteries, 3500w inverter
    1452107764681-1148232439.jpg 1504725935760541578843.jpg
    A more expensive but much more convenient option would be these two gems. Relocates as well as converts to spin-on. With hoses it would be around $500 for the mod.
     
    warrlong likes this.
  27. Sep 13, 2017 at 10:03 AM
    #27
    Stig

    Stig New Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2016
    Member:
    #3475
    Messages:
    949
    You're doing it wrong if you think the spin on kind is so much easier.
     
  28. Sep 13, 2017 at 10:26 AM
    #28
    15whtrd

    15whtrd Mr. Blonde

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2015
    Member:
    #1829
    Messages:
    9,372
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Sean
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    White 2015 Tundra DC SR5 TRD 4x4 5.7L, White 2003 Sequoia 2WD
    TRD Pro suspension, +2 Coachbuilder shackles, 2015 TRD Pro headlights, 20% ceramic tinted windows, clear ceramic tinted front windshield, aFe drop in pro s dry air filter, TRD airflow accelerator, TRD oil fill cap, TRD 18 psi radiator cap, BDX Bullydog tuner, Weathertech floor mats front and rear, rear seat fold down mod, DNA hard trifold tonneau cover, Linex with uv protection, TRD rear swaybar, TRD center caps, TRD Pro grille insert with color matching surround and bulge, TRD PRO headlights, aluminum oil filter canister, Real truck tailgate seal, Pop-n-lock tailgate lock actuator, rear diff breather relocate, RCI front skid plate. 275/70 R18 BFG KO2s
    The center plug got stuck on mine the last oil change. So taking out the first Plug it would try to and spin the entire filter housing. I took my 1/4" impact to it and I got it off without removing the entire housing with it.
     
    kenomouth64[OP] likes this.
  29. Nov 23, 2017 at 8:45 AM
    #29
    Ragecage92si

    Ragecage92si New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2017
    Member:
    #8551
    Messages:
    84
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Josh
    Vehicle:
    17 blue TRD
    7" BDS lift kit,3” body, King 2.0’s, Mammoth Guards, Custom powder coating, Nitro 5.29, D.A.P. Tuned, Coachbuilder shims, Coachbuilder Steering kit, Wether Tech vent visors, and hood protector, spray in bed liner, Bakflip, Fuel wheels, 38” TOYO tires, Bushwacker fender flares, Dirty deeds exhaust , TDK front bumper, Rigid light bar/floods/spots. Husky fronts, Weather Tech rears, ESP under seat storage, PowerX2 battery, Android Tesla unit, AJT chrome delete, Horn Blasters, Custom switch cluster, Interior leds, Revere leds, 19 pro headlights, Rocklights, Custom MAYHEM projector
    Anybody have a link to the aluminum oil filter housing?
     
  30. Nov 23, 2017 at 9:11 AM
    #30
    trainracer

    trainracer New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2015
    Member:
    #1127
    Messages:
    167
    This site contains affiliate links for which the site may be compensated.
    #30

Products Discussed in

To Top