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How to learn how to weld

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by Ps3udonymous, Apr 7, 2020.

  1. Jul 9, 2020 at 11:18 AM
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    ZPMAN

    ZPMAN 2nd place is the 1st looser

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    My best advice for learning how to weld would be to start out with a mig with gas but do a little research on YouTube first. At my work I get alot new grasshoppers wanting to learn how to weld and usually standby with them for an hr or two to learn the basics of the mig itself and then set it up for 1/8 steel and let them go at it. Most wielders come with a guide on the inside cover like this. 20200709_130818.jpg
    Good luck.
     
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  2. Jul 9, 2020 at 12:14 PM
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    rons23 Get The Led Out!!!

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    Rule of thumb is when you increase your volts (heat) you increase your wire speed. This also applies to lowering your voltage, you decrease your wire speed. For mig process it's not a problem, but you should always wire brush your welds. When your stick welding the flux is protecting the weld. Once your done and it cools you just knock slag off. When you get your amperage, rod angle, and travel speed perfect , the slag will roll up behind you. When this happens you are dialed in.

    As far as it burning back to tip, it could be just a dirty tip. The main causes of burn back is a dirty liner, which your wire runs through. Blow it out with compressed air from time to time. Use the anti- spatter, it will help you save on tips. Always clean weld area good, at least 1" away from anticipated weld toes.

    Don't hesitate to ask any questions my fellow welder, I love it and will try to guide you with any problems or questions :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Jul 9, 2020 at 12:52 PM
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    I tend to run my wire slower and up my setting just a bit to get better penetration through heat and going slow. I've tried upping wire speed...and my welds look like shit. slow/medium speed works for me. whatever gets you going
     
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  4. Jul 10, 2020 at 2:33 AM
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    rons23 Get The Led Out!!!

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    Yes Kevin, mig is all about setup. You can dial it in to your liking, but there's a line where your volts and wire speed are not gonna work . You will either lack penetration or loose control of weld puddle.

    Please post pics of your welds. :thumbsup:
     
  5. Jul 10, 2020 at 4:15 AM
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    My last project was base legs for a work bench.
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  6. Jul 10, 2020 at 10:07 AM
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    I know, surface prep could have been better. This is the side gusset to the mounting bracket on my bolt on sliders. The round weld in the middle is a plug weld into the square tube going from the slider to the mounting plate (bolted to frame). The edges got a nice seam weld, all the way around wherever it touched another piece of steel. This is before I brushed up the weld, or cleaned up the other edges before finishing the welding. Not pretty, but I have yet to have anything break on me while off-roading.

    IMG_7600.jpg
     
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  7. Jul 10, 2020 at 10:28 AM
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    Looks good to me, are you pushing or pulling, I used to pull till an old timer got me to start pushing. When pushing you get bettor penetration into the base steel and believe it might look bettor if done correctly.
     
  8. Jul 10, 2020 at 11:20 AM
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    on that weld, i believe i was pulling. i'm better at pulling, but depending on the location of the weld and the position i'm in, i can push also. i learned by pulling and just stuck with me a bit. i also tend to hold my gun a little more vertical when i pull, which allows IMO for better penetration. That and the hotter setting on the welder which creates a better pool for my wire speed.
     
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  9. Jul 12, 2020 at 10:08 PM
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    Well got to working on my first project. Couple of issues...

    First, I burned through some of the metal on different spots. Voltage was too high as I was dialing it it. And the other times I went to slow.

    Second, I am pretty terrible at running straight consistent beads. But I've gotten better.

    Third, and worst of all. My last weld (in the picture) of course, the one that is hidden that no one will ever see was the best bead I've done so far.

    20200712_190341.jpg
     
  10. Jul 13, 2020 at 6:30 AM
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    ZPMAN 2nd place is the 1st looser

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    Looks good!

    First, if possible practice on a piece of same material B4 the starting the main project.
    Second, Beer will help straighten out any weld.
    Third, do the hidden welds first if possible and clean/grind area to be welded.
     
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  11. Jul 31, 2020 at 4:44 PM
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    saybng Just a member.

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    Any of you welders heard of this brand? If so how what do you guys think?

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  12. Jul 31, 2020 at 5:12 PM
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    Azblue Beer is Good

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    I have heard of the brand only because I bought a cheap auto darkening helmet on eBay from that brand. The helmet works fine, but the head straps are thin and floppy. So, yes the helmet works fine but is cheaply made. I have never tried their actual welders.
     
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    I was just looking around for affordable welders and saw that brand..although I already have Lincoln and hardly used it and want to learn. After looking up my welder I didn't realize that I can actually convert it to use gas..lol.
     
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  14. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:05 PM
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    I bought their hoods for my guys in the shop. They absolutely love them more than the hoods I've been getting from Northern Tool. We have also used their replacement leads on our 240 Millers. No issues.

    So far, it seems to be a solid brand. No experience with their welders though.
     
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    stick with your lincoln
     
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    Our little Lincolns are great for portability and reliability. And parts are a dime a dozen. Bonus factor, they weigh way less than our baby Millers. I can hoist them into the truck by myself. :muscleflexing:
     
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  18. Jul 31, 2020 at 10:44 PM
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    I just pick up a Tig welder, boys keep breaking levers on the bikes.
    Did a little steel first20200722_142857.jpg

    Then a little aluminum 20200722_190600.jpg
    Tonight a little more practice then fix the clutch lever.20200801_000439.jpg
     
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    which TIG machine did you get? I am in the market for one.
     
  20. Aug 1, 2020 at 6:41 AM
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    After a little research I decided to buy a Vulcan 205 but when I went to Harbor Freight they said it was going to be 2 weeks for delivery. A little more research and ordered a Prime Weld 225X Tig. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BXHRBQ8/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_eUwjFbXPVT36K
    What was great about this unit IMO was a 3 year factory warranty 24/7 hotline and it comes with a quality torch (CK 17 flex).
     
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    Solid choice! I have been using mine for everything.. I'm finding it unappealing to even hook my Vulcan 215 up anymore other than shear speed of getting things done. The primeeweld is has been fnatastic
     
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