HELP!!, talk me off the ledge...

By your avatar pic it looks like you go in the dirt. I'm sitting in a fairly new f150 w the eco boost. It just passed 21k miles. It is my work truck and I'm in the dirt 85% of the time with it. It's not a truck I would spend my own money on. It has no power until the turbos spool up. Then the tires want to spin, then the traction control kicks in (you can't turn it all the way off). If you never go in the dirt, and you don't really tow anything it's ok.
Only good thing I can say about it is the ac works good.

 

If he's selling you the Ford at selling price of the Pro, $49K, then no....Tundra all day. If he's closer to the $45K selling price of the Ford I would really consider the Ford to try something different. That is of course you don't plan on keeping the truck 10 years/lots of miles, if you do plan on keeping it long term then Toyota all day.

 

Buy the Pro and sell it next year when they discontinue it for 10k more. Then dump the profit into a new SR5 or Limited or new sport. Now you have a tundra with less debt. BOOM!!

 

But right before that, sell the F150 for your brother, private sell for $3k more than trade in value. Pocket difference, then buy the PRO.

 

Welcome to the new episode of family fueds.

 

I had a 2006 tacoma and sold it, damn I miss that truck. Family was getting bigger and wife couldnt drive the six speed manual. So we bought a eco boost 2013 i think. Only had 32,000 miles maybe FX4 good looking truck had lots of nice features like 120volt plug in cab....lots of USB ports. But, first thing was engine light came on and it ended up being a cat- converter that went bad...odd I know. That was something that the 7yr warranty covered. Got that fixed then one day out of no where it went into "safe mode" and would only go 45 mph and couldnt figure it out. Had wife and brother in law in there....wife immediately said we need to get rid of this. We only had it for a few months and I keep trucks like you for about 10yrs. I had never been a "ford" guy but had a few friends that had the eco boost and pulled alot of weight with them. I pulled a 20ft trailer with two RZR's on it and it would fly but when it got into a "pull" it felt like it had a miss in it. From all the FORD forums they were saying the waist gate on the turbo was letting off and that is where the small jerk would come from. I couldnt take all these small things so i dumped it and got Tundra. It was used too but not one minutes trouble from it. It will "haul the mail" too but just differently. I did get 22mpg in that eco boost one trip but I felt like in 10 yrs I would be walking Good luck with your decision. Also they make other types of Tundra's too, get you a lower cost one and build it how you want. That may be a better option.

 

Today I am definitely leaning towards the Pro, however I'm still waiting to hear back from BIL on his price. It might be a mute point if he comes back with say $55K or so. Considering the following reasons I think it is a no brainer that I go with the Pro: 1) I tow a bit (3-fourwheeler trailer is all), 2) I'm planning on keeping it at least 10 years, 3) I'm not all that concerned with MPG as I only travel 12 miles each way to work, 4) I have literally had zero issues with my '07 and cannot stand waiting around a dealership as my truck is worked on. Anyway, thanks for all the replies. I will post up a pic of that Pro if it comes to fruition in the next three weeks or so!

 

Tundra. I've owned the big 3 and a Toyota and I've got a gnarly T stamped on my right arse cheek.

My wife, for some reason has a different type of T stamped on her right chi chi... Tahoe. I like it but at night, after I am done suckling the teet, I roll over and dream of a Tundra.

I trust my branding.

 

I wish you all the best in your decison. I have owned Toyota trucks since my first new one in 1989. I have never owned anything else. Having said that I can't speak good or bad about a Ford product having never owned one and likely never will.

I can say having owned a fair number Toyota trucks since 89, I am completely sold on Toyota reliability.
It's your $$$$ and you need to roll with what makes you happy. $50k for a Pro wow!! I did not pay that for my Platinum.

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Buy the Tundra......Be happy!

 

You just answered your own question here

 

Very good point sir. I got looking at the Platinums and they are absolutely loaded. Do the Pros really not have any heated/cooled seats? I wonder if I would be better off going with a Platinum and adding a Bilstein 6112/5160 combo and dual TRD exhaust and I would probably still come in less than a Pro. At least the dealer is willing to deal on a Platinum whereas a Pro is not a dime below MSRP.

 

Personal preference for sure. I believe the Pro has heated seats only. I am spoiled with all the options that the Platinum comes with. I would not trade my Platinum for a new Pro.
The Toytec Boss 3/1 and TRD exhaust would look great on a Platinum. I have the Toytec 3/1 suspension with 33.5" tires like many other members on here. Very happy.
Good luck with your choices.

 

KBB trade-in value in my area for that truck is about 30 to 33K. How much are those things new? I bet you he paid 60k. That's worth almost half as much after 6000 miles. F that F series truck.

 

Go with Toyota. I got $12,500.00 from dealer for my 2008 with 151,800 miles on it.

i probably could have got more on my own but didn't have time nor patience.

I don't see over here in Ohio many rust free Fords with that many miles.

Just saying

 

Maybe there is a reason your brother-in-law call you to sell his F-150 LOL....The Truth he is just as unhappy as you would be if you went to FORD!!!! I think Deep down he really wants a TUNDRA...LOL Because he knows the Ford is Don't fall for the trap my buddy is selling his F 150 loaded also ....2017 Tundra Well last you longer and more Room inside and looks way better... Just my Thoughts!!!

 

Well, my deposit is in and the Pro is now about two weeks away from delivery. I can honestly say that I am getting more and more excited about the Pro the closer I get. Who knows, in a couple years when they have remodeled the Tundra and (hopefully) come back out with the Pro I can upgrade at that time. Obviously that depends on what they decide to do to upgrade the Tundra. The safety sense stuff coming out for MY2018 is nice, but I am really more interested in power, towing, fuel economy gains, etc. I can guarantee you the Tundra will have more value at that time than the F150.

 

Oh, and a CM with a 6.5' bed would be the cherry on top...

 

Well, the F150 is a distant memory and the PRO is one week out!! Thanks for talking me off the ledge

BIL came back with $52K which is actually a great price for a loaded and lifted Platinum F150. However, it finally came down to all the research I have been doing on the Ford reliability issues. Anyway I think it is going to be the Pro since even with the Platinum Tundra and all its bells and whistles it is just not going to be "enough" for me to not think I have my same exact truck with leather and an additional $30K in debt. The PRO will give me enough of that "buzz" like I got when I first drove the '07 off the lot.

The next question I have is that I actually like a little rake to my truck. What method should I use to achieve a 1" lift in the rear of the Pro? A 1" coachbuilder shackle (or comparable) or a 1" lift block. I am thinking shackle, but are there any issues I should be aware of?

 

Smart move and congrats on the Pro. Pics when you get it.

 

Go with shackles.

 

Not quite 1" but this is a great deal...
https://www.tundras.com/threads/coachbuilder-1-shackles-for-sale.14733/

 

Great quality Shackles right there

 

Are there any issues to be expected with 1"+- lift shackles such as shock length or driveline angles? I am assuming not, but if anyone has any real world experience (especially on a pro) it would be greatly appreciated.

 

Lift shackles will be fine BUT..... Will leave it soft in the rear... I went with 2" leaf Springs...You do not have to do 2" but in will make it much stiffer in the rear.. So if you Haul or tow more and you will not get as much sag in the rear..

 

Thanks. I am actually thinking of adding a shell before too long (like to keep the cargo dry). I probably don't want to go too much below 1" in order to maintain some rake. I actually prefer a little soft to more stiff than stock so the add a leaf is probably out.

 

About Add a Leaf Kits

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Sometimes you just need to add a leaf for some additional load capacity. Our extra leaf kits are for light duty trucks, vans, utility vehicles, motorhomes and mini buses and come equipped with full taper leaf springs for the front or rear of your vehicle. All Dayton Add a Leaf kits are packaged complete with all necessary hardware and U-bolts for installation. Tuff Country Add a Leafs will come with a center pin and will either utilize factory u-bolts or require a u-bolts kit to be purchased separately.

Adding a leaf to your leaf spring is very similar to simply upgrading your springs. You are essentially adding another level of support to your spring which is making the spring capacity greater. Many of the add a leaf kits we sell will bring the spring capacity to the exact level of an HD spring for that very vehicle. Kits are available for the Dodge Ram, Chevy Silverado, Jeep and other models.

Warning: DO NOT attempt to “build up” a taper spring unless using an extra taper leaf specifically designed for that purpose. If you have any questions regarding these add a leaf kits please contact us.

Add-A-Leaf vs Helper Springs
What is the difference between an Add-A-Leaf Kit and Helper Springs? Both will give you lift while supplying load support. Some Add-A-Leaf kits will mount between the leaf springs and the rebound leaf whereas all helper spring will mount onto the springs. Helper Springs like the Hellwig EZ-990 will help keep your Chevy Silverado or Ford F150 level and prevent it from sagging or swaying when driving. We would recommend them for anyone who is looking for a quicker installation and a cheaper solution.

The one main difference between add-a-leafs and helper springs is an add-a-leaf will give you a constant rate while helper springs will give you constant and progressive. What is progressive rate? The progressive rate means that your truck must be loaded and the leaf springs compresses in order to activate the Hellwig helper spring. When the load in your truck increases the helper spring will progressively increase its resistance to the load.

Add-A-Leaf Install
Install is rather easy when it comes to inserting the add-a-leaf into your existing leaf spring. You will begin by jacking your truck up, removing the tire and resting the vehicle onto jack stands. Remove the lower shock bolt and unbolt the U-bolts on each side of the axle. On our vehicle we were adding a large add-a-leaf so we made sure there was enough clearance between the leaf pack and the spring perch. This is where the add-a-leaf will go. Then clamp the pack securely, remove the factory centering pin, insert the add-a-leaf and then place the new centering pin through the factory overload spring. Reinstall the remaining parts. That’s it. Installation can be tricky on some trucks and can take a few hours to do so.

 

Hope that helps.. That what I used but had a 2" Installed.