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Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by robabeatle, May 28, 2021.

  1. May 28, 2021 at 6:04 AM
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    Dealing with pulsating brakes after:

    1. 10K miles ago I put on new rotors and pads. Generic Amazon replacement:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009YM21GG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8

    note that these are the 13wl as I think the original owner replaced the 13we at some point

    At this time, I also adjusted for more rear brake bias, and took some slack out of the parking brake line. Braking was vastly improved.

    2. About a month ago, I notice a slight pulsating again when the brakes are nice and warm. I was scheduled for a timing belt change, so I had the shop bleed the brakes and check the rear drums, and they replaced the rear drums.


    Shop still experienced pulsating after the above and so machined the rotors. Ah, they did say the rotors were warped as well. (Again, only 10k miles, no towing, not a lot of weight or overly rough useage)

    Pulsating is diminished but still there. The shop said the next thing to do is replace the rotors and pads. <frustrated> So, I am wondering is the other likely culprit the calipers?
    Also, what are suggested, time tested rotors and pads. I'd rather spend a bit more and have great, long lasting braking.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. May 28, 2021 at 6:13 AM
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    Not sure which Rotors a 4wd Place put on mine, but they are holding well after 20k miles. I even have the 13WE on them and switched last year to 13WL.

    After some reading, it seems some Cryo Treated Rotors are the best.
     
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  3. May 28, 2021 at 6:22 AM
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  4. May 28, 2021 at 6:23 AM
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    I also have read great things about the cryo rotors. I hate any kind of pulsing when braking and having dealt with warped rotors in the past and reading that they are an issue with these trucks I went ahead and ordered a pair for my truck already along with new OEM pads and the powerstop calipers. May wait to run through my current setup a little bit more before installing (right now I only have a slight pulsing getting off exits on the highway), but I figured it was worth the extra cost to prevent this from ever being an issue. I am usually skeptical of claims like the ones made with the cryo rotors, but I did a bunch of searching and no one seemed to be calling BS on them - pretty much all positive reviews.

    I went with these because it was the cheapest cryo set I could find, but frozenrotors.com has a different, more expensive option also.

    https://rcagarage.com/shop/brakes-r...-front-left-rotor-special-order-126-44118csl/
     
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  5. May 28, 2021 at 6:31 AM
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    13wl and 13 we are just referring to the calipers and pad size correct? Nothing to do with the rotors.
     
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  6. May 28, 2021 at 6:36 AM
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    You’ll probably be alright with reusing your newer pads. If it was me, I’d go New Full High Dolla pads and have a fresh start.
     
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  7. May 28, 2021 at 6:40 AM
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  8. May 28, 2021 at 6:51 AM
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    That's with "free" shipping, but yeah these cryo rotors aren't cheap. The ones on the other site are more like $140-160 a piece. But no sense in running through rotors like I've heard a lot about reading through these forums. This is a test as much as anything, we'll see how they perform. I would probably go with a $50-60 rotor from Rock Auto if I didn't try these, and I could easily see the $100 difference all in worth it if these live up to their reputation. We'll see how they hold up though.
     
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  9. May 28, 2021 at 9:15 AM
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    At first, I thought of just using the current pads but then rethought along your line of thinking. If I am in there, might as well just cover all my bases.
     
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    Thank you to everyone for the help. I went with the stoptech cryo treated rotors and new "street" pads. Pretty costly but if it gets the job done, I will be happy.
     
  11. May 28, 2021 at 9:56 AM
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    I haven't had to cross this bridge on my tundra yet, but I've had my best luck with cross drilled powerstop rotors. I've used them a couple of times with vehicles that ate rotors like candy mints and had good success.
     
  12. May 28, 2021 at 10:09 AM
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    R1 Concepts cryo rotors are a great option too. Also check Maxbrake, had them on my 4runner and they were really nice.
     
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    My brakes are pulsating as well. I have good pad left but this is original with 50k on them. Seems stock held up good. Should I just get another set of these
     
  14. May 28, 2021 at 10:44 AM
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    Cryo costs a lot but I have been running a pair of cryo rotors since 2012 or so. Never had then turned, never had brake pedal pulsing. Even when I switched pads I didn't have them turned. They are slotted, I didn't want slotted but that was the only cryo option, a place I had called asking about turning said they won't do slotted rotors.

    If it is your rotors you typically also get a wobble in the steering when the pulsating happens. If that isn't happening it might not be rotors.
     
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  15. May 28, 2021 at 11:26 AM
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    There is steering wheel wobble.
     
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    With shipping that's only $60 less than the cryo rotors, although the free shipping trick definitely makes those a deal. I guess it depends on whether or not you think the cryo process actually does anything. If OEM rotors last 1/2 as long as cryo then even with free shipping you've paid more and had to put new rotors on. If there's no difference then OEM is the way to go. Anecdotal evidence like what Darkness said makes me think the cryo actually works but I'm interested to see for myself, although I guess I don't have much to compare to at this point.
     
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    @tdrich7 right before I paid the big bucks for cryo I had got a pair of the top of the line auto zone rotors. They lasted 6 months and started wobbling. As many miles as I have put on my cryo rotors I think I'm ahead, even with OEM I would probably have gone through 2 sets by now.
     
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    I'll be guinea pig.
     
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    I drove on Original OEM Warped Rotors from 2004 until 2018. It was normal to high speed wobble and/or tug tug tug at slow stops. I think the 4wd Place put on some basics rotors from china iirc. When/if these warp I’ll go Cryo with Toyota Pads (TRD) as they come with the Silencer Shims.
     
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    I bought a “kit” on Amazon for front brakes. Rotors and pads. They lasted about a month.
    Wobble, wobble. It was past the time to return so I lived with it. I ordered Bosch rotors and
    Brand name pads ( forgot the brand) no more wobble, junk rotors went to trash
     
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    I've had a set of $40 Raybestos or Centric rotors (whatever Rockauto had in the daily driver section on the front for 50k miles now. No wobble. Been through 3 driver's side calipers though for sticky pistons.
     
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    Cryo rotors and new pads arrived. Looking to get this swap done tomorrow.
     
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    I recently won a set of EBC "yellow stuff" pads. I kinda figure like 1k mile break in with the panic stops to bed them in properly ( is that still a thing) and Ill let yall know what I think of them compared to oem and the powerstops I got from NAPA
     
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    I tried them, I think I got part of a bad batch. They stopped well but they screamed all the time. I have been running their red pads on my daily and no complaints there. Hope the yellows go well for you.
     
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    ^lol

    Decided to get er done today. Easy the second time through. While pressing the pistons back a little brake fluid came out of the reservoir.
    Problem?

    8171A668-E7A6-41CD-A0D7-2A601E330C11.jpg Out of the driveway and back in: they work but the brake action is spongy. Will give a shake down in a few hours.
     
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