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First Gen Wheel Spacers

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by MrAristo, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:34 PM
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    Decided I agree, especially since I plan on lifting and getting larger shoes soon..
    Ride is fine! I do feel the difference in width trac slightly, and slight floaty feeling but I like it. Retorqued all today, so tomorrow I’ll know for sure. Only debate is do I keep these “lug centric” spacers or exchange for hubbed?
     
  2. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:36 PM
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    Hub centric :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:39 PM
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  4. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:42 PM
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    I think manufacturer reccomends red, which is scary to me because I’ve heard you need a torch to get red loose
     
  5. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:44 PM
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    Yeah. Wondering about servicing the rear drums and having to remove these? Momba can handle it?
     
  6. Aug 11, 2020 at 6:46 PM
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    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, SSEM #5/25, 6 lug enthusiast

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    Oh momba can handle I’m sure, your studs and lug nuts might be a different story.
    A 4runner friend has spacers and has done a bit of break work, and said it wasn’t a big deal to remove them.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2020 at 7:18 PM
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    I've used my little ⅜ impact on M12 bolts with red loctite. Worked like a charm after the first few duggas. The momba can handle red. As long as the red isn't just slathered on.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2020 at 3:55 PM
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    Had to remove those “lug centric” spacers and play it safe. After three straight days of retorquing wheels and spacers, the shakes haven’t gone away, they’ve actually gotten worse when going over 50.. :confused: Either lug centric really does suck or I’m just feeling the emphasis on not having a sway link on one side and probably older ball joints that need replacing soon... swapping for the hub centric.
     
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  9. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:02 PM
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    You have shakes after installing Spidertrax spacers?
     
  10. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:28 PM
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    Good decision on switching to the hub centric kind.
     
  11. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:43 PM
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    Yup. Pretty weird, shakes will come and go as I drive, but they’ve gotten more noticeable.
     
  12. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:49 PM
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    Good feedback and playing safe! Thank you.
     
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  13. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:49 PM
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    So you had shakes before adding the spacers? Spidertrax spacers are hub centric. Kinda sounds like your tires are out of balance.
     
  14. Aug 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM
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    It’s a 20 year old suspension so slight vibrations here and there, but nothing crazy. Added the spacers and there’s an occasional wobble and shake at high speeds. Never experienced that with hub centric so I’m all set :D
     
  15. Aug 15, 2020 at 6:18 AM
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    The spacers that do not have the raised lip are not in and of themselves "lug-centric". The wheel and lug type used can be mounted lug-centric and be centered properly.

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  16. Aug 15, 2020 at 6:22 AM
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    Factory wheels for Toyota appear to be hub centric. Most aftermarket wheels are lug centric.
     
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    Anybody have issues with the front lugs being too short? I just installed 1.5" hubcentric spacers from ksp and the front spacers lugs nuts only engaged about half their threads with the hubs lugs, like they're shorter. The rear hubs' lug nuts fully screwed on, so it makes me worried that both front wheels are only being held onto the truck with half the hubs threads. And today I hit a bump on the road and now I hear a slight scratchy sound at parking lot speeds. I'm only a few days on the spacers, less than 50 miles. I'm going to have to drive it home tonight carefully and jack it up again yo check the lug nuts on the spacers and make sure they haven't come loose. Anybody else experience this?
     
  19. Mar 27, 2024 at 9:30 AM
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    Make sure you have the correct lugs on your spacers. I use the deep shank or extended shank lugs for the spacer to hub, then the conical seats for my wheels. Have to have the right lug for the application. I would park yours and investigate further.

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  20. Mar 27, 2024 at 8:59 PM
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    Made it home and lo & behold the right wheel lugs were almost completely loose. All four wheel spacers were rock solid. And the other three wheels were rock solid. Makes me think maybe I forgot to torque the last wheel I did when I installed the spacers. Anyways I removed the spacers until I can get longer studs for the front for peace of mind. And I re-torqued all the wheels down hopefully no more loose lug nuts!
     
  21. Mar 28, 2024 at 6:04 AM
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    I’ve run 1.25” spacers for the last 18 years or so. Still on factory studs. The extended lug nuts I posted about make full thread contact and have always been tight when checking them at tire rotations. Good luck with your setup.
     
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  22. Mar 28, 2024 at 6:11 AM
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    I kinda wonder how anyone wouldn't have proper engagement if they're using the correct lugs on the spacers like the ones you're using. I think using the wrong lugs and overtorquing (CRACK! goes the spacer...) are the two big mistakes people make running spacers.

    The number of people I've seen proclaim it's OK to use an impact with, or not bother with a proper torque wrench (i.e. resort to uggaduggas) when mounting the spacer is sketch, to me. Too much spacer ignorance in this world. Thankfully not seeing that in here.

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  23. Nov 7, 2024 at 12:19 PM
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    Hey y’all, I’m asking this question here because it’s somewhat related. With my current set up my wheels run the upper control arm and full articulation, I was off-roading and could here when my wheels left the ground it scraping the control arm, and there is rubber residue on the arm, it’s such a small distance I’m looking to add
    Just a 1/8 in or 5 mm shim on the hub to give me a little more offset, does anyone have experience with tiny “spacers” like these? Or know if it would require longer studs?

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  24. Nov 7, 2024 at 12:25 PM
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    If you're leaving rubber, you'll need more than a spacer

    break out the saws all and sledge hammer
     
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  25. Nov 7, 2024 at 12:26 PM
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    Before answering, please tell us more about your setup. You're not doing anything really fucking stupid, like using struts to lift your truck and a strut spacer at the same time, are you?

    And wheels are scraping the top of the UCA, like when the suspension is at full extension, tire/wheel hanging fully down?
     
  26. Nov 7, 2024 at 12:53 PM
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    No im not doing anything fucking stupid but unfortunately that’s a valid question lol, no shims anywhere, it has a 1 in lift via the coilover is actually 1 in longer, ( iron man 4x4) shocks.
    I am running 265/70/17 stock Tacoma wheels,
    As you can see the CV angle is acceptable aswell, really my only question is will I need lover studs for a 1/8 to 1/4 in spacer or shim or any other materials I would need

    edit- when driving on road my suspension never articulates enough to run the arm unless I hit train tracks or a big dip, but when it does droop you can see the shinny rubber it left on the edge of the arm
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  27. Nov 7, 2024 at 12:57 PM
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    What wheels are you rocking? It looks like the backspace is not ideal. You really don't want to have more than 4.75" backspace, with ideal being somewhere between 4.5" - 4.75".

    But I can also visually see your camber is way the fuck off and that may actually be contributing to your issue. Unless it's weird angles. Throw a 4ft level on things and check. (EDIT: I''m using the black stripe on the fence to gauge what true vertical is for this picture.)

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    Offset is trash. Time for new wheels or 1" spacers for ideal clearance, I highly doubt a 5mm spacer will help.
     
  29. Nov 7, 2024 at 1:24 PM
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    I got my alignment done a few months ago and it was good, but I’ll check it out, looks like the offset is the problem which is a bummer, thanks for the info yall
     
  30. Nov 7, 2024 at 1:36 PM
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    Are you running OEM wheels, or aftermarket, or ???

    What are the wheel specs? A lot of OEM wheels run at 5.0" backspace
     

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