1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

EV's & Tundra's

Discussion in 'Electric Vehicles (EVs)' started by nobodyintexas, Mar 27, 2022.

  1. Dec 2, 2023 at 6:45 PM
    #3421
    GODZILLA

    GODZILLA ASCM#1 Douchebag formerly known as 50 Buck

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2019
    Member:
    #35514
    Messages:
    26,648
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    Wyoming
    Vehicle:
    2023 Solar Octane TRD Pro TACOMA, 2022 Honda CB500X
    Trying not to mod it
    It probably has a camera and uses a digital mirror like the 3rd gen tundras.
     
    Bob and T-Rex266 like this.
  2. Dec 2, 2023 at 6:48 PM
    #3422
    DrZoidberg

    DrZoidberg New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2021
    Member:
    #63955
    Messages:
    3,394
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    SATX
    Vehicle:
    Tesla MYP
    Just read an article. Has no rear view mirror at all. Has PIP on center screen for rear view
     
    nobodyintexas[OP] and T-Rex266 like this.
  3. Dec 2, 2023 at 6:51 PM
    #3423
    T-Rex266

    T-Rex266 Elon approved Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2014
    Member:
    #6
    Messages:
    155,236
    Gender:
    Male
    They didn’t make the rear window roll down either (I rarely used it on my tundra, but was a cool feature) but it’s also one more thing that could break I suppose. Maybe has something to do with something in the bed so it doesn’t slam against a panel and fracture the glass…not sure.
     
    Bob likes this.
  4. Dec 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM
    #3424
    DrZoidberg

    DrZoidberg New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2021
    Member:
    #63955
    Messages:
    3,394
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    SATX
    Vehicle:
    Tesla MYP
    Meanwhile GM you can open the entire rear. Curious how problematic that will be given they had issues leaking for sliding rear truck windows
     
    T-Rex266[QUOTED] likes this.
  5. Dec 2, 2023 at 7:29 PM
    #3425
    Bob

    Bob Member Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Member:
    #1
    Messages:
    4,024
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Bob
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    07 Tacoma PreRunner Black
    T-Rex266 likes this.
  6. Dec 2, 2023 at 7:45 PM
    #3426
    T-Rex266

    T-Rex266 Elon approved Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2014
    Member:
    #6
    Messages:
    155,236
    Gender:
    Male
    Elon is always late, and quick to be done
     
  7. Dec 2, 2023 at 8:42 PM
    #3427
    T-Rex266

    T-Rex266 Elon approved Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2014
    Member:
    #6
    Messages:
    155,236
    Gender:
    Male
  8. Dec 2, 2023 at 8:43 PM
    #3428
    T-Rex266

    T-Rex266 Elon approved Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2014
    Member:
    #6
    Messages:
    155,236
    Gender:
    Male
  9. Dec 2, 2023 at 10:30 PM
    #3429
    Bbgunasassin

    Bbgunasassin New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2022
    Member:
    #87276
    Messages:
    100
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    23 Tundra Limited Hybrid Trd Offroad LR
    295/65 r20 Icon Stage 7
    After nerding out on what it takes to build a cyber truck, especially the way that stainless steel body is formed, I'm wondering how many of these the giga factory can produce weekly. Also wondering about the durability of that ginormous front windshield. Cracking that would suck. Definitely would like to take one for a test drive.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2023 at 3:31 AM
    #3430
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    this wierded me out too.

    rear view on screen. not normal.
     
    T-Rex266 likes this.
  11. Dec 3, 2023 at 3:33 AM
    #3431
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    ok

    It's an electric El Camino.

    There, I said it.
     
  12. Dec 3, 2023 at 4:01 AM
    #3432
    Adam

    Adam New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2017
    Member:
    #10039
    Messages:
    952
    Gender:
    Male
    If you hit those in the right spot with a deadblow, while gently trying to open them you can get them to open without a code. I have had the batteries die in mine and got it open that way. YMMV
     
  13. Dec 3, 2023 at 4:12 AM
    #3433
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    re: All this recent news on EV's

    Face it - > if you are shopping for an EV, you are shopping for a Tesla.

    yet, the media is silent.

    Big 3 EV's are dying on the vine....silence.

    Amazing times.
     
    Bob, T-Rex266 and NWPirate like this.
  14. Dec 3, 2023 at 4:40 AM
    #3434
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Unpopular opinion on EV thread>
    The problem is the vast vast majority of car and truck buyers want ICE and, no offense, but no one wants to see only Teslas everywhere except Musk. The CT will sell of course, but price point makes it a niche market. As with many EV's there is no affordable version for most folks even with a tax break. None of these EV's would be selling as well as they are without tax breaks which is a false flag in regard to sales. A true measure is to eliminate the tax break for people above a certain income level. Most people buying EV's can afford them, don't need a tax break and are just virtue signaling that they're helping save the planet which is a joke.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
  15. Dec 3, 2023 at 4:55 AM
    #3435
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    agreed

    hence my statement on those folks that ARE shopping for an ev

    Teslas everywhere?- agreed, but here we are. They are years ahead of competitors

    price point. They are very similar to ICE prices. Very

    tax credits- now you just trying to
    Lather me up!

    remove tax credits YES! And Tesla will still sell

    saving the planet? No. I agree. It’s the performance aspect that got me

    ev’s have a place on the road. Kinda like exotics or any other cutting edge tech.

    urban situations are perfect for ev’s.

    I overlook this little jewel- my wife leaves the house with a full tank every time. I like knowing she won’t have to stop for gas.

    @T-Rex266 maybe I can put the CT tires on the plaid? This would cure 50% of my “issues”.
     
  16. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:13 AM
    #3436
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Problem is there's this huge push to transition to EV's, not just an Elon Musk offering. A good friend and his wife are looking at a Kona. She really wants it because of the tax break. They make decent money. Own two business'. Why a tax break just because it's EV?. Not much equity there it seems.That doesn't make it the same as ICE. Tesla does have a head start until China takes over the market when the current competition dies off. Musk can only lower his price points so low. It's something Musk is aware of and the reason he's getting cozy with China, which is one of the worst polluters on the planet which certainly doesn't fall into the years ahead mold. Performance is relative to need and want of course. Most folks want something affordable and "practical" for their sitiuation. Not everyone has the luxury of plugging in their EV at home which would be nice if you own a home.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
  17. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:23 AM
    #3437
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do

    yup...and that huge EV push is purely Gov mandates & tax grifts.

    big Money is flowing to some seriously skechty organizations. Org's that do nothing.


    very good point you make - the free market does not want/need EV's.

    without Gov mandates, there presently would only be 1 EV maker, maybe 2.



    if your buddies make decent $, they will not get a tax break....as me how I know!

    China - sure. but ALL auto maker are under that thumb.

    My & M3 are very practical & damn affordable. most folks don't travel >50 miles per day. ideal.

    big market barrier - how do those folks that live in apartments charge? change that & you got a whole new segment to sell to.
     
    T-Rex266 likes this.
  18. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:33 AM
    #3438
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Not that simple. EV tax credit here in CO is based on the EV value up to $80K. Nothing to do with a persons income. That's my point. There are clearly many barriers keeping people from buying something they might want to try. It's certainly not playing out as hoped for. No surprises there. There's a lot of naysayers out there not even remotely convinced yet. Time will tell.
     
    nobodyintexas[OP] likes this.
  19. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:34 AM
    #3439
    NWPirate

    NWPirate Tesla kool-aid connoisseur

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2019
    Member:
    #40251
    Messages:
    8,953
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Zach
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2017 SR5 TRD CM 2004 TRD Snow Goat
    Right now, a lot of people don't get the tax credit even if you do qualify. You have to owe $7,500 to get the return. I think that's changing in 2024 though.
    BYD is Tesla's only real competition in China, I would bet everything I have that BYD will never outsell Tesla in the US.
     
    T-Rex266 and nobodyintexas[OP] like this.
  20. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:37 AM
    #3440
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    so y'all get a state EV credit?

    damn.

    upload_2023-12-3_7-36-54.png
     
    T-Rex266 and Black Wolf[QUOTED] like this.
  21. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:39 AM
    #3441
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Each state has different EV tax credit if any. There's no shortage of experts warning about China's capabilities regarding EV production. When BYD offers cheap EV's here, that will be a game changer.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
    NWPirate[QUOTED] likes this.
  22. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:41 AM
    #3442
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    but...we have cheap Non-Tesla EV's now? and they lot rot.

    Bolt.
     
    NWPirate and Black Wolf[QUOTED] like this.
  23. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:42 AM
    #3443
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    I know. Doesn't seem fair. A very generous AGI allowance too!
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
  24. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:44 AM
    #3444
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    let's say Chyna flooded the market with ~$20k EV's

    would they sell?

    I think not.

    quality would get in the way.
     
    Bbgunasassin and NWPirate like this.
  25. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:47 AM
    #3445
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    I looked at several of the new Ariya's while getting my oil changed. Quite nice. Most where $50Kish. Not selling too well it seems. Pro4-X's flying off their lot tho. Figures.
     
    Last edited: Dec 3, 2023
  26. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:48 AM
    #3446
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Doing quite well with Apple and such for meeting quality. Counting out Chinese capabilities would be a mistake and Musk knows this.
     
    GODZILLA likes this.
  27. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:52 AM
    #3447
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    i need to ponder this one.

    Apple is wanted by the free market.
    Apple is the most expensive phone out there.
    Phones are relatively simple devices.
     
    GODZILLA likes this.
  28. Dec 3, 2023 at 5:55 AM
    #3448
    nobodyintexas

    nobodyintexas [OP] What?

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2020
    Member:
    #48303
    Messages:
    3,762
    Vehicle:
    S/C'd 2020 White 1794 Tundra
    Whatever this forum told me to do
    you make good points

    you make me see past the blinders.
     
    GODZILLA and Black Wolf[QUOTED] like this.
  29. Dec 3, 2023 at 6:11 AM
    #3449
    Black Wolf

    Black Wolf Bigfoot Hunter, Sasquatch too, but not Yeti

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2014
    Member:
    #378
    Messages:
    39,915
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Aurora CO
    Vehicle:
    2022 Nissan Frontier SV 4X4
    TuwaPro rack, Z1 Offroad stuff, NISMO suspension stuff, FlowmasterFX Extreme exhaust, AIS, OVS, J&L can, other goodies on the way
    Thanks. Keep in mind that Chyyna controls the vast amount of rare earths required, basically no restrictions on mining, polluting, no political interference. Bribes...easy peasy. Would be easy to infiltrate the EV market here, especially since the powers that be pretty much handed them the key.
     
  30. Dec 3, 2023 at 6:12 AM
    #3450
    GODZILLA

    GODZILLA ASCM#1 Douchebag formerly known as 50 Buck

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2019
    Member:
    #35514
    Messages:
    26,648
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Adam
    Wyoming
    Vehicle:
    2023 Solar Octane TRD Pro TACOMA, 2022 Honda CB500X
    Trying not to mod it
    Look at the motorcycle market. There's two Chinese brands that I know of. CF Moto, generally regarded as trash, but sells because nobody can match their price. Then there's Kove, still launching I think, and people are jazzed as hell for it.

    China makes garbage, but China also makes great stuff. It all depends on what the goal is.
     
    Black Wolf and T-Rex266 like this.
To Top