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Early 1st Gen (2000-2003) Tundra Frame Replacement FAQ

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by lsaami, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. May 18, 2022 at 7:04 AM
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    If you want to really know... take a hammer and don't be afraid to give sections a good tap. Any dents mean that the metal has lost it's integrity and it's not just surface rust. That's the method I've settled on after all this. Just doing a visual assessment can be misleading.
     
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    So it's been a while since I posted. I have had an '02 with 105k miles for close to nine years now. OP had the CRC spray. It's pretty "gently loved" now as I have known for a while that the frame was a timeboxed commodity and my plan has been to drive it into the ground, fixing only what will prevent it from being on the road (so far, O2 sensors, front brake pads, and a strut of which the spring seat rusted and finally blew out, luckily in my driveway vs on the road). The other day I was under it and found that the entire drivers side rear shock mounting point has separated from the frame, and the shock is now pointed backwards. Probably suboptimal :p

    I was hoping it would last long enough to see used truck prices creep back down, but this is really not fixable. Not sure if anything has changed w/ Toyota corporate but CRC or no, this rust is soundly in the recall zone, and the crossmember (previously replaced) is now holier than Pope Pius. I will try giving the dealership a call and see if there is any hope, and as always I appreciate hearing any experiences or thoughts. Thanks!
     
  3. May 22, 2022 at 8:55 PM
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    If it's been sprayed and/or had the crossmember replaced I wouldn't get your hopes up but it can't hurt to try.

    It's always interesting that this recall was better for you to ignore for 10 years than get it dealt with right away. I know if I owned the truck when the recall came out I would have had it sprayed right away without knowing any better.
     
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  4. May 23, 2022 at 6:49 AM
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    I know... it's really unfortunate. It's been a while since I called corporate but the smug-a$$ way that guy (I think it was like Keith or Brian) would tell us that the CRC actually does something significant was enough to put me off buying another Toyota forever. Gotta love corporations!
     
  5. May 23, 2022 at 8:44 AM
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    Yeah, that's the incredible irony... the folks out there who missed the initial recall ended up being way better off
     
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    And with this being the case, Toyota should be held accountable for this BS coating which basically did nothing. They sued and collected from Dana corp and then turned around and screwed the consumer. I think a number of us should simultaeously file complaints to the NHTSA. Also shoot short clips of these failing frames and clip them together in a single video for people to see on YouTube. A lot of people are out there unknowingly driving unsafe vehicles because Toyota spray painted their vehicle, assuring them everything would be fine. They never even took the bed off my truck to do the job, and I filed a complaint with corporate when I caught the dealership doing this. Corportate basically said tough shit and good luck. We've been duped! F Toyota! How about we start gathering names and phone numbers from different enthusiasts sites and see if we can get a legitimate claim of fraud together.

    Hi all, I'm new to the forum but not this problem. I hope to join other sites and get the same message going. If we get enough people together and make enough of a stink where it starts to draw some media attention, maybe Toyota will actually pretend to give a shit about it's customers.
     
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    Alright guys so I got this Tundra from my grandpa for a good price. It’s an 02 with 65k miles on it. Body is completely rust free. Interior immaculate. Everything well taken care of. Only downside you ask? He lived in MN. I’ve started to scrape and treat the rust up front but I haven’t touched the rear frame because it’s never had the CRC applied. The recall is still open on it because grandpa had it serviced in ND which apparently is not a cold weather climate state therefore they never did the CRC.
    My question for the hive mind is the cross members in green and red look great. But the mounting locations on the frame are rough. This spot is the worst of them, and I’m wondering would this constitute a frame replacement? This is the area circled in blue on the diagram.
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  9. Jul 3, 2022 at 12:38 PM
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    One member stated that the frame recall is over but not sure if that is true or not. Get some pics of your spare tire crossmember mounting locations. That's the spot that really matters nowadays. Regardless it would probably be good to just go ahead and take to your dealer and have them inspect.
     
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    So I talked to my friend at Toyota in recalls (which is where I got the diagram) and he talked to a guy who handled some of this major frame recall, and they said the recall never expires because it’s a safety recall.
     
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    I've heard the same thing as well. Recall exists now because of the worry of the spare tire crossmember rotting off and causing a hazard in the road.
     
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    Anyone know of a good way to get the 2004 DC frame replaced under warranty? My spare tire crossmember is rotted as well
     
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    From my Toyota friend.

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  14. Jul 3, 2022 at 2:17 PM
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    Pretty sure 04 means you're SOL. Might be worth taking in and giving it a shot though.
     
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    Service guy said it was finally ending, but I've also heard safety recalls can't expire. Who knows for sure. Take it in and see! Good luck
     
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    Not knocking your service guy, but he’s probably confusing customer support programs, warranty programs, and limited service campaigns, with safety recalls. Which for a tech is understandable. The guy I got this info from used to work in the recall department, and checked with someone currently in the recall department. I am hesitant to take it to my local KC dealer on the off chance that they have the CRC spray on hand and apply it to end the recall for my truck without checking with me first. You know something like, “Oh and while it was in we went ahead and took care of that safety recall for you!” We all know that spray is a bandaid on a bullet wound.
     
  17. Jul 6, 2022 at 11:43 AM
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    No offense, sounds right to me.

    One angle to think about is that the service advisor gets paid for the amount of hours the recalls worth. Sort of like a commission. Most service advisors would be more likely to push for a full frame replacement than just the spray. They get more more kickbacks
     
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    The spray is no longer an option. Its either too rusted out and it needs either just the crossmember replaced (which is also unlikely these days) or the whole frame.
     
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    Another frustrated 2002 Tundra owner with 100k miles, beautiful condition except for rotting frame that local dealership told me is not safe to drive. Like others I was told not covered, but I see others getting replaced. I’ve opened a complaint to NHTSA and following what appear to be other class action lawsuits potentially talking about the same issue. One owner truck, has been great for 20 years, but this is really frustrating because I did have the earlier warranty treatment which apparently did nothing.
     
  20. Sep 16, 2022 at 11:08 AM
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    Sucks. I'm pretty sure if you got the spray you are not eligible for a full frame replacement.
     
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    All it'll take is a class action lawsuit with a legal team capable of proving the coating is and/or was a completely ineffective 'lipstick on a pig' solution and Toyota will have to replace those too. (Edit: But it may already be happening; Toyota is huge and has enough legal power to drag something like that case on for a decade or more, and every year that passes, there are less trucks left on the road to repair ...)
     
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    I hope you can get further with this than others have. It is ridiculous that since you were proactive and had it sprayed when they tell you too that now you can't have a replacement. If you hadn't had it sprayed you could just get it replaced. The spray counts as a full remedy to the recall even though it just makes it rust faster. Best of luck to you!
     

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