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Don't kill me...engine oil thread

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by 9am53, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Jan 28, 2020 at 8:05 AM
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    Warreng

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    Its $90 CAD tax in for an oil change at toyota. 8L of oil and filter is going to cost me nearly that much so I let others take care of it.
     
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  2. Jan 28, 2020 at 8:06 AM
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    I think youre right. The local "oil change place" did my wife's car a couple of years ago, pulled the air filter out to try sell her another one, and forgot to put it back. I found this out a week later, and I live on a dirt road.
     
  3. Jan 28, 2020 at 8:17 AM
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    I understand your difficulty completely, because I've experienced it and have learned to maximize search usefulness. That does not say that search always delivers good or usable results.

    A good choice of topic words makes all the difference, and having previously read a thread is a big help in that regard. The search words I used to find the previous thread were "oil brand used". The last post on that thread was nine posts from the top of the page. You made the effort, and we do appreciate it. Repetitive motor oil threads have just sensitized almost all of us. We sensitized should just skip to the next thread down, because everything has already been said multiple times, and probably by the same members. Not your fault. :thumbsup:
     
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  4. Jan 28, 2020 at 8:21 AM
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    Thanks. Yeah I'll maybe search again with more words. I find typically when using search functions the more vague the searched words the more I come up with, rather than being too specific and finding less.
     
  5. Jan 28, 2020 at 5:31 PM
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    Well, I get my first oil change next week and it's being done by the dealership so I don't exactly have any real experience with this motor to offer. However, I've changed the oil on all my previous vehicles, so I'll do the same with my Tundra when the OEM service package expires.

    I'm going to probably go with Castrol Magnatec when I do my own changes. It was a great oil for my last truck (Ford F150 Ecoboost), and $18/5qts on Amazon is a hard price to beat. Haven't made up my mind yet on filters. Will either use Toyota or maybe the Fram Ultra so I can skip changing the filter every time. Will do 5,000 oil cycles for a few times (running oil analysis) and then likely stretch it out to 7-8k miles depending upon what the analysis shows.

    It's hard to find a "bad" oil these days unless you're buying them at the Dollar Store.
     
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  6. Jan 28, 2020 at 5:56 PM
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    Put oil in it, I've used a couple of different brands and it didn't seem to make a difference. I use OEM filters; they're pretty cheap anyway.

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  7. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:14 PM
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    I’ve been using Pennzoil Ultra Plat in our other vehicles and plan to use it in my Tundra starting this spring. (My ‘free’ dealership oil changes are up soon.)

    OP, I also buy my oil on sale @ CT. It’s hard to beat their sale prices. I either use the Toyota oil filters, NAPA Plat (Wix), or Mobil1 on sale from CT.
     
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  8. Jan 29, 2020 at 4:44 AM
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    Thanks. I'm going to see if theres a lab in canada that does these tests. How much are tests at Blackstone?

    Well the canadian tire sale prices are hard to beat, but as I mentioned, the toyota oil is the same price or cheaper than the CT sale prices, and since I'll be using a toyota filter I may as well get my oil there too. I've been waiting for weeks for my 2020 pro headlights to come in, I'll get it all when I go pick them up.
     
  9. Jan 29, 2020 at 10:49 AM
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    No reason why you can't start doing your own oil/filter changes right now. Too many horror stories with dealer oil/filter changes, many on this forum. I have always done my own with all of my vehicles including all O/F changes on my 2018 I bought new.

    Dan
     
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  10. Jan 29, 2020 at 11:23 AM
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    If one does go to toyota to get their oil changed and they screw up Id assume they would cover all the damage, wouldnt they?
     
  11. Jan 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM
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    This has been discussed in multiple threads here. Mistakes that dealer service departments have made include (going from memory here):

    1) Not removing old O-ring on filter housing and just cramming the new one on.
    2) Dramatically over-torqueing the filter housing, housing drain cap and/or pan drain plug.
    3) Not changing the oil filter during oil/filter changes.
    4) Not removing skid plate for oil/filter changes resulting in oil dripping on the top surface of said skid plate, dripping on floor after returning home.
    5) Messing up replacement of skid plate, leaving bolts out or breaking them off.
    6) Under or over filling crankcase with oil.

    I think there are many more examples, a search would turn them up. These are mostly annoyances but it indicates the type of inattention some service departments apply for this level of service. BTW, this being a "free" service, the dealers won't be assigning their Master Mechanics to do these jobs.

    Dan
     
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  12. Jan 29, 2020 at 11:55 AM
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    For sure. I’m going to give the dealership a chance and see how they perform. They fubar the job and I’ll pull the trigger on all the oil change items in my Amazon list.
     
  13. Jan 29, 2020 at 12:33 PM
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    One thing I always do after an oil change whether it's the dealer or a 3rd party, pop the hood and make sure the filler cap is secured and check the level. My son had his Corolla serviced at Toyota and after a while was smelling oil in the cab, they had forgot to put the filler cap on. o_O
     
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  14. Jan 29, 2020 at 12:39 PM
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    You left off the gent who had his oil filler cap left off. And didn't discover it for a 1,000 miles. He had the photos. OMFG. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat a mess.
     
  15. Jan 29, 2020 at 2:03 PM
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    One thing to keep in mind - your engine oil and filter are the life blood of your engine. It is imperative that this maintenance step be performed without errors of any kind. The dealer (or any of the "fast lube" services) are the last places to have this done with any piece of mind (IMO). It is an easy DIY job to do. I'm 70 years old and still crawl under my Tundra (on ramps) and do the oil/filter change while scooting around on a creeper. As I have indicated in many of these threads I have always done my own oil/filter changes on all of the vehicles I've owned since the early 60s.

    Dan
     
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  16. Jan 29, 2020 at 3:22 PM
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    Like many of us. I have done my own wrenching...for years. I'm now 72, with limited "up and down" capabilities. My mind says ok, my body says what are you thinking.
    What about the warranty? I called my warranty people. They told me just keep a record of when I bought the oil. YEAH RIGHT. Sounds like an "out".
    I purchased Mobile 1 0w-20 while it was on sale from COSTCO ($3.00/qt!) in preparation for oil changes, enough for 3 changes.
    Soooo....I called several locations asking "if I bring in my own oil, what wiil be deducted from the charge"....every one stated "their consumer price per quart". We'll see. :confused: Atleast I'll have documentation. THEN when I get it home, I'll crawl underneath and check it myself. :fingerscrossed: :annoyed: It's the new norm. GOOD LUCK
     
  17. Jan 29, 2020 at 3:30 PM
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    I'm creaky too. It takes a process to safely get down on the creeper and then to get back up. Forgetting a tool (or bringing the wrong one) makes it aggravating. So, it is not as easy for me as it used to be. But, I tough it up and do it (on my Tundra as well as the wife's Sequoia). Thankfully, 10k miles between changes make it a lot more tolerable.

    My Dad was a stickler for this stuff, never had anyone do any repairs/maintenance on anything we owned. I guess it's in my blood.

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  18. Jan 29, 2020 at 4:00 PM
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    It comes down to trusting any mechanic
    I've overheard them say...." can't see it from my house " or "it's job security".
     
  19. Jan 29, 2020 at 4:02 PM
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    Look here, but there are lots of places that perform oil analysis.
     
  20. Jan 29, 2020 at 4:49 PM
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    Exactly. It's like the people who say "not to be racist, but...", then say something incredibly racist. But don't worry, that guy posts multiple paragraphs all over this site with his infallible opinions meant to piss people off, then falls back on the "you're too sensitive" defense as if there was no other way to get his point across.

    Anyway, I put Kirkland brand 0W-20 in my 2010 this oil change after the previous owner took it to the dealer its whole life and don't notice any difference in the way it runs. OEM filter.
     
  21. Jan 29, 2020 at 5:27 PM
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    I am one of those dummies that uses a local oil change shop. I work a lot of hours and just don't have the time to do it myself. I am due a oil change next week, it will be oil change # 80 at 400K. Never used anything but plain 5W20 and stock filters. No issues so far but I'm still in the Toyota break-in stage.
     
  22. Jan 29, 2020 at 6:26 PM
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    Dramatic much? I sincerely apologize for disagreeing with one of your 1510 posts.
     
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    We put a lot of km on my wife’s car. the oil change interval for her car is 16k km, which is a lot for a car taking 5w30...so I would do it myself every other oil change and go to the oil change place the rest of the time to save myself having to do it and keeping things on the up and up for warrantee reasons. Mind you her oil change is 60 bucks...my truck is going to be over 150 according to what they told me. They don’t always do everything perfect, but lately it’s been better, seems new ownership has improved things quite a bit. They do however really push the upselling a lot more. They tricked my wife into a new cabin filter and air filter a few months ago. I made sure she knows better than to let them do anything but an oil and filter change.
    The nice thing about doing every other change yourself is you can see if they are changing the filter
     
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    AMSOIL oil filter and oil... what oil changes? ;-)
     
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    The very same owners manual recommends 5k or heavier oil for very frequent towing, heavy hauling, start stop, short trips etc.
     
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    Yes... agree 100%. You should follow the advice in your owner’s manual. That was my point. The people who engineered this motor know it best and have given us their recommendations.

    I assume the million mile oil field delivery Tundra didn’t meet the severe duty schedule, so the dealer chose to follow the standard Toyota 10K OCI synthetic schedule. The strongest case to be made is that Toyota dealer network oil changes are the “best” since these were used exclusively in the million mile Tundra. I don’t think any other oil /filter brand or service station could make that claim of proven longevity (and the engineers’ tear down analysis of the internals of the motor) for the Tundra right now.
     
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    At 5k miles any 0-20 oil will be good.
    I have chosen
    Mobil 1 0-20 EP high mileage oil. Because I like the additive package with trd filter. I can add the oil change on the Toyota owner page and it is recorded in my vehicle history. I keep all receipts. I just had the dealer perform an oil change while they repaired my alternator. So my next oil change I will be doing it. Someone mentioned that I could just change the oil and not the filter until 10k especially since it’s a trd filter. Good luck .
     
  28. Feb 11, 2020 at 4:43 AM
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    I change mine every 5000 miles and I drive alot so I tend to change the oil about every 6 weeks. Bought the truck with 110k now at 130k been using WM super tech full synthetic 0w20 and a cheap fram filter. I’m sure that’s not popular but.... to each his own.
     
  29. Feb 11, 2020 at 1:21 PM
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    Looking over hundreds (maybe thousands) of UOAs from every manufacturer of oil and every make and most models sold in NA has led me to the conclusion, that within reason, as far as manufacturer required specs, viscosity and OCI, ANY synthetic oil from a well known manufacturer will do. Magic unicorn tears do not exist and I've never seen any objective significant difference between major manufactures as far as real world performance or UAO for a given spec, viscosity and OCI. I've just never seen any evidence.
     

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